Managerial Merry-Go-Round 2020/21

Soz

Active Member
Joined
Dec 30, 2017
Messages
667
Reaction score
151
Points
43
Location
Staffs
Supports
PV
the walsall situation is odd, their ceo says one thing but then everything seemingly points to cost cutting exercises.

that being said, i think they did end up appointing a DoF a few weeks ago so maybe he has some ideas and dutotn wasn't part of the plan.
 

valefan16

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 17, 2015
Messages
15,968
Reaction score
2,421
Points
113
Supports
Port Vale
They could be an early shout, along with Scunthorpe, to find themselves in a relegation battle next season. Don't know how things are behind the scenes there but they've made some poor decisions over the last twelve months and have some important decisions to make now becuase on the field they've been pretty awful.

Their chairman just comes across as very Norman Smurthwaite
 

SaddlerJonny

Well-Known Member
Joined
Aug 26, 2014
Messages
1,371
Reaction score
337
Points
83
Supports
Walsall FC
Twitter
@JonnyOwen12
the walsall situation is odd, their ceo says one thing but then everything seemingly points to cost cutting exercises.

that being said, i think they did end up appointing a DoF a few weeks ago so maybe he has some ideas and dutotn wasn't part of the plan.
I feel it was very much a case of Pomlett really liking Dutton, so he gave him the 20 games as an extended trial period to be appointed permanently in the summer, but 3 wins in 20 later and it was painfully obvious he wasn't up to the standard. Was very much a case of cutting costs from Feb to now, and then hopefully building with a fresh start from today with a new manager, a DoF that we appointed a couple weeks ago, and releasing a lot of the dead-wood. Rip it up, start again and try and get rid of the smell that billy big bollocks Clarke left behind.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Soz

The Terminator

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 18, 2015
Messages
4,581
Reaction score
1,087
Points
113
Supports
Leyton Orient
Bradford confirm new manager incoming:

 

Monkey Tennis

Well-Known Member
Joined
May 9, 2015
Messages
4,761
Reaction score
2,324
Points
113
Location
Barra
Supports
Bluebirds
Keith Hill given the boot at Tranmere!

I think I know who our next manager might be...
 

shoddycollins

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 17, 2015
Messages
11,512
Reaction score
3,578
Points
113
Location
In the managerless wonderland
Supports
Carlisle United
Keith Hill given the boot at Tranmere!

I think I know who our next manager might be...
Kind of bizarre given they had a bad start to the season and Hill came in and got them into the playoffs. I know the Tranmere fans have been complaining about his style of football almost since he was appointed but results speak for themselves surely
 

kieran_vale

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 17, 2015
Messages
8,203
Reaction score
2,064
Points
113
Supports
Vale / New England Patriots
I know Tranmere fans have been critical of Hill but their dip seems to have coincided with the loss of Vaughan. Take any top scorer out of any team and you’re going to struggle.

Suppose the good news is Dawes did a really good job as caretaker before so if he repeats that then it’s all good for them.
 

Monkey Tennis

Well-Known Member
Joined
May 9, 2015
Messages
4,761
Reaction score
2,324
Points
113
Location
Barra
Supports
Bluebirds
Kind of bizarre given they had a bad start to the season and Hill came in and got them into the playoffs. I know the Tranmere fans have been complaining about his style of football almost since he was appointed but results speak for themselves surely

I can sort of understand it - seems to have lost the dressing room and fallen out with fans. He'll have had a break in his contract to allow him to be sacked for free at the end of the season (like Jolley with us), so would've gone anyway. May as well play the play-offs with a bit of a feel-good factor and hope it's enough.
 

White Army

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 17, 2015
Messages
1,192
Reaction score
355
Points
83
Supports
Tranmere Rovers
I can understand the confusion from the outside, but i have never known a manager to completely wipe a club off all optimism so quickly. Take a look at his post match interview from Saturday and it will give you a jist of what we have had to put up with the last few months.

Awful football, constantly berating the fans in interviews, signing players to never play them.

The whole mood of the club has changed this morning. As others have said Dawes did a great job as caretaker and many wanted him to get it full time before Hill was appointed.
 

SuperaMoras

Member
Joined
Aug 1, 2020
Messages
23
Reaction score
68
Points
13
Location
Bolton
Supports
Bolton Wanderers
Keith Hill did as exactly as Keith Hill does. Good start, says the right things initially, then when the pressure is on he has a full-on meltdown. And I mean full-on. Blaming players, blaming fans, blaming the colour of the kettle in the dressing room. Well not quite, but it wouldn’t surprise me.

It probably seems like odd timing but you don’t need that poisonous attitude around the place before the playoffs. Right decision, 10 games too late.
 

shoddycollins

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 17, 2015
Messages
11,512
Reaction score
3,578
Points
113
Location
In the managerless wonderland
Supports
Carlisle United
Can anyone remember a time when we had so many managerless clubs at this level.

FGR
Tranmere
Salford
Orient
Bradford
Walsall

Barrow likely to join them if Rob Kelly doesn't want the job

The top two are in the playoffs so one might be leaving us but Swindon also currently managerless and coming down
 

kieran_vale

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 17, 2015
Messages
8,203
Reaction score
2,064
Points
113
Supports
Vale / New England Patriots
Can anyone remember a time when we had so many managerless clubs at this level.

FGR
Tranmere
Salford
Orient
Bradford
Walsall

Barrow likely to join them if Rob Kelly doesn't want the job

The top two are in the playoffs so one might be leaving us but Swindon also currently managerless and coming down

Of that list would say I’d be avoiding Swindon like the plague until know more on their ownership situation. With Salford it’s just a case of negotiate a good severance package. Orient would be a job that should interest a lot, good owners, a decent enough squad with a few additions and London will always attract some players.

Wouldn’t rule out adding Rochdale and Scunny to this list either. Haven’t bothered to check but the latter of them has been through a few managers under this owner already.
 

shoddycollins

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 17, 2015
Messages
11,512
Reaction score
3,578
Points
113
Location
In the managerless wonderland
Supports
Carlisle United
And Oldham haven't changed manager for a couple of months, so they're due a sacking.
Salford will have to hurry up and appoint someone or they'll have nobody to sack when the four month point from the previous sacking rolls around.
 

Chris FGR

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 18, 2015
Messages
11,341
Reaction score
5,634
Points
113
Supports
Forest Green
If us and Tranmere get through it could be two managerless clubs facing each other in a playoff final, has that happened before?
 

Sydney Posse

Active Member
Joined
Sep 19, 2017
Messages
477
Reaction score
114
Points
43
Location
Sydney
Supports
Exeter
It might work for you. He just wasn't liked here.
Give us a brief rundown Robshep, seems crazy to me, why wasn’t he liked very much. Personality?, playing style?....and what’s your thoughts on the timing?
 

AR27

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 23, 2019
Messages
1,028
Reaction score
560
Points
113
Location
Bradford
Supports
Bradford City
Nixon linking us with Adams this morning.

Our CEO was on the radio last night stating how he views this as an entertainment business and after the last few years we've had, he wants an exciting product on the pitch. That and Adams don't go hand in hand. I'd be really disappointed if he got it.
 

saddler78

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jul 16, 2015
Messages
1,449
Reaction score
386
Points
83
Location
walsall
Supports
walsall
Steve Coppell is favourite with the bookies came from nowhere last night that would be a surprise.
 

BarraMatt

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jun 13, 2015
Messages
3,155
Reaction score
1,867
Points
113
Location
Barrow
Supports
Barrow AFC
I'd have Hill here. He's not the cup of tea for someone with aspirations of promotion but for a club like us that need to establish ourselves he's probably exactly the type we need. We tried two 'experiments' of relatively inexperienced coaches and it almost ended in disaster. Besides, a club finishing 21st gradually improving their infrastructure isn't exactly an appealing proposition for a successful league manager.
 

Robshep

Well-Known Member
Joined
Aug 22, 2020
Messages
2,676
Reaction score
1,071
Points
113
Location
Wallasey
Supports
Tranmere Rovers
Give us a brief rundown Robshep, seems crazy to me, why wasn’t he liked very much. Personality?, playing style?....and what’s your thoughts on the timing?
He just didn't fit the club.
He criticised the supporters and called us fickle. 3 seasons in non league with average attendances never falling below 5,000 is hardly fickle.
He clearly fell out with the players big time.
He always referred to the club as 'them' and 'they' and never us and we.
I have nothing against him personally because i do not know him but as a manager of our club he wasn't right.
The timing was due to a lot of supporters saying they would seriously consider renewing season tickets if he stayed. Its a business decision as much as a football one. Fan power won.
The football was awful to watch. We might be a bit more gung ho now and its better to possibly fail trying than possibly succeed being negative.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Boz

shoddycollins

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 17, 2015
Messages
11,512
Reaction score
3,578
Points
113
Location
In the managerless wonderland
Supports
Carlisle United
I'd have Hill here. He's not the cup of tea for someone with aspirations of promotion but for a club like us that need to establish ourselves he's probably exactly the type we need. We tried two 'experiments' of relatively inexperienced coaches and it almost ended in disaster. Besides, a club finishing 21st gradually improving their infrastructure isn't exactly an appealing proposition for a successful league manager.
Whoever you appoint, if you make it in the next six weeks then he'll be your fifth manager in twelve months.
 

shoddycollins

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 17, 2015
Messages
11,512
Reaction score
3,578
Points
113
Location
In the managerless wonderland
Supports
Carlisle United
The football was awful to watch. We might be a bit more gung ho now and its better to possibly fail trying than possibly succeed being negative.
That's often what fans say after a disappointing season, there's not much more entertaining though than success and not many fans will say if they get promoted that they'd rather have played more positive football and stayed down.

Grimsby fans the only ones I can think of after getting promoted from the Conference who were keen to get rid of their manager, and look at the appointments they've made since then, and who's managing them now.
 

Sydney Posse

Active Member
Joined
Sep 19, 2017
Messages
477
Reaction score
114
Points
43
Location
Sydney
Supports
Exeter
He just didn't fit the club.
He criticised the supporters and called us fickle. 3 seasons in non league with average attendances never falling below 5,000 is hardly fickle.
He clearly fell out with the players big time.
He always referred to the club as 'them' and 'they' and never us and we.
I have nothing against him personally because i do not know him but as a manager of our club he wasn't right.
The timing was due to a lot of supporters saying they would seriously consider renewing season tickets if he stayed. Its a business decision as much as a football one. Fan power won.
The football was awful to watch. We might be a bit more gung ho now and its better to possibly fail trying than possibly succeed being negative.
Wow, I was unaware of the ill feeling and the other points you made. He must have been seriously unpopular if the season ticket thing was real and not exaggerated. Good background and makes it a bit easier to understand for fans of other teams
 

kieran_vale

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 17, 2015
Messages
8,203
Reaction score
2,064
Points
113
Supports
Vale / New England Patriots
I'd have Hill here. He's not the cup of tea for someone with aspirations of promotion but for a club like us that need to establish ourselves he's probably exactly the type we need. We tried two 'experiments' of relatively inexperienced coaches and it almost ended in disaster. Besides, a club finishing 21st gradually improving their infrastructure isn't exactly an appealing proposition for a successful league manager.

In Hills case he has taken Rochdale up a couple of times so he can do that role. As with almost all managerial appointments it’s about the right fit and circumstances more than anything. Look at Accy with Coleman who anyone would say has done an incredible job there. Rochdale fans would tell you rather differently what they think of him I guess.

I could see him being the right sort of manager for Barrow assuming you don’t give it to Kelly (which I’d be wary of doing).
 

The Terminator

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 18, 2015
Messages
4,581
Reaction score
1,087
Points
113
Supports
Leyton Orient
I am lead to believe we have spoken to Neil Ardley, Kenny Jackett and Paul Tisdsle.

I think it is likely to be Neil Ardley.

Would love us to take a punt on Jackett, but I think he will stay in League One.
 

Forum statistics

Threads
16,573
Messages
1,227,151
Members
8,512
Latest member
you dont know

Latest posts

SITE SPONSORS

W88 W88 trang chu KUBET Thailand
Fun88 12Bet Get top UK casino bonuses for British players in casinos not on GamStop
The best ₤1 minimum deposit casinos UK not on GamStop Find the best new no deposit casino get bonus and play legendary slots Best UK online casinos list 2022
No-Verification.Casino Casinos that accept PayPal Top online casinos
sure.bet miglioriadm.net: siti scommesse non aams
Need help with your academic papers? Customwritings offers high-quality professionals to write essays that deserve an A!
Top