Managerial Merry-Go-Round 2020/21

[Agombar stool]

Garner confirmed as Head Coach. Ben Chorley returns as DoF. Scott Lindsey joins the coaching staff

Good that we got the management team in nice and swiftly. I wonder how many of the recent good recruits were down to Chorley and not Jewell?

 

[Indian Dan]

We’ll soon find out! My concern is that the model of bringing on young players for future sale and attracting young talent on loan is difficult to pull off. Probably explains the influx of very young trialists at the moment.

As we well know with Luke Williams.

 

[BRFC_Gas]

Garner confirmed as Head Coach. Ben Chorley returns as DoF. Scott Lindsey joins the coaching staff

 

[GTFCfish]

Swindon fans pardon my ignorance but who is JBZ?

 

[Indian Dan]

A plonker on our forum.

 

[Agombar stool]

We’ll soon find out! My concern is that the model of bringing on young players for future sale and attracting young talent on loan is difficult to pull off. Probably explains the influx of very young trialists at the moment.

As we well know with Luke Williams.

At least there appears to be a plan, whether it works or not is a different story. I'm reasonably happy with the managerial team, it might take time to bear fruit but now's the time to get behind the 'ladz'

 

[Indian Dan]

I hate the way he posts. Just looking to be antagonistic. When are you coming back or are you just going to lurk from now on?

Looks like I’m destined to lurk. Not accepting registration.

Oh well!

 

[Agombar stool]

Looks like I’m destined to lurk. Not accepting registration.

Oh well!

Want me to have a word fella? You aren't trying to sign up as Lee Power are you?

 

[Indian Dan]

Want me to have a word fella? You aren't trying to sign up as Lee Power are you?

I don’t think it’s deliberate - at least I hope not! It seems any combination of user name, email, device etc gets rejected as it says it’s a spam. Maybe it’s laying in the TEF’s spam folder. JJ could possibly sort it, I suppose.

 

[Agombar stool]

I don’t think it’s deliberate - at least I hope not! It seems any combination of user name, email, device etc gets rejected as it says it’s a spam. Maybe it’s laying in the TEF’s spam folder. JJ could possibly sort it, I suppose.

I'll give JJ a nudge and let him know your having issues.

New CEO being announced at 10, its Rob Angus from the STFC Trust.

 

[Indian Dan]

Aberdeen Angus!

 

[Agombar stool]

I see the ever pleasant Joey Barton is in court on Monday after giving his wife a 'beating' for her anniversary.

 

[kieran_vale]

I do wonder at what point the Rovers board just come to the conclusion he is more trouble than he is worth and cut their losses. He isn’t going to change his ways at this point, the record speaks for itself.

Obviously it’s far from ideal having revamped the squad a fair bit this summer to have this going on in the background regardless.

 

[FGR Stroud]

I see the ever pleasant Joey Barton is in court on Monday after giving his wife a 'beating' for her anniversary.

[#] Innocent until proven guilty
[#] Barton is a football man with a decent CV. Some club could negotiate acquiring a top notch manager on the cheap if he is found guilty of assault in court.
[#] If guilty I suspect Barton will resign as manager but thereafter apply for job as 1st team trainer under an experienced manager, such as Malcolm Allison under Joe Mercer (Allison did not have any criminal convictions but had a tearaway personality that Mercer reigned in)

 

[Chris FGR]

Barton’s CV is a decent playing career and one semi decent stint at Fleetwood as manager.

On the downside he has on his record; a 6 month prison sentence for assault, criminal damage to a taxi, two serious assaults on team mates, (inc causing Ousmane Dabo a detached retina and stubbing a cigarette in a youth team players eye), a 12 match ban for going mental and getting sent off v Man City (in that last minute ‘Aguerooooo’ title winning game) and also mooning Everton fans. Then whilst a manager facing assault charges for an alleged attack that broke the front teeth of an opppsition manager and is also now on trial for attacking his wife.

Why would any club appoint him as anything, be that a coach/assistant manager after that? Clubs are brands these days, don’t wanna be associated with stuff like that.

 

[Gassy]

Innocent before proven guilty and all that, I’ll hold me thoughts until something more concrete comes out.

it seems though that the wife beater comments are paper talk as his wife confirmed on Instagram

 

[Robshep]

Innocent before proven guilty and all that, I’ll hold me thoughts until something more concrete comes out.

it seems though that the wife beater comments are paper talk as his wife confirmed on Instagram

Just like Boris with his now wife. We all know how honest he is.

 

[Agombar stool]

Fully aware how bad his time at Rovers was but this piece in the local Bristol Press by ex-player Mark Little was quite interesting.....

There is still a concern that Garner will be a great coach and a bad manager but I'm hopeful that he will do better under us than he did at Rovers.

How did you find working under Ben Garner?

Ben was up there with one of the best coaches I’ve worked with. He’s an extremely good coach.

He knows his football and he knows how to coach players, but he was in and out. He came in, then left for personal reasons, then came back and had a short spell, then COVID knocked that on the head.

Then he had a short spell to turn things round after pre-season. I know the club didn’t have time to wait, but he wasn’t able to get everything across and we ran out of time to achieve what we wanted to do, which was unfortunate and he probably feels the same as me. It was a very similar outcome.

He didn’t have time to give a good account of himself. Although the time period was long, but there were bits missing due to personal reasons and COVID. You can’t do anything about that.

Do you think he can go on and learn from the experience and be a success?

I’m sure he will and he will use it as a learning experience. The advice he will be given will be about both the football coaching and the managerial side, and the latter is the bit I think he would be working on.

I think 100 per cent he’s going to become a top manager if that’s what he wants to go and do.

The easy criticism to make of Rovers under Garner is the recruitment side of things. Do you think the squad was put together as it should have been?

It was dreadful, but that wasn’t down to Ben Garner. I think it’s publicised that it was Ben Garner’s decision, but I don’t think it was, it was from other places.

If Ben was able to get the people he wanted in and the people he wanted out, it would be a different scenario, but he wasn’t allowed to do that and I think it’s very unfair to say it was all him. But that’s how football works, isn’t it.

It seemed to me that in certain ways the club was dysfunctional. Garner made decisions for players to leave, but the club was unable to move them on anywhere, and he wasn’t able to get some of his targets. Do you think the club let him down?

When you say the “club”, that’s such a broad term.

 

[Gassy]

Fully aware how bad his time at Rovers was but this piece in the local Bristol Press by ex-player Mark Little was quite interesting.....

There is still a concern that Garner will be a great coach and a bad manager but I'm hopeful that he will do better under us than he did at Rovers.

How did you find working under Ben Garner?

Ben was up there with one of the best coaches I’ve worked with. He’s an extremely good coach.

He knows his football and he knows how to coach players, but he was in and out. He came in, then left for personal reasons, then came back and had a short spell, then COVID knocked that on the head.

Then he had a short spell to turn things round after pre-season. I know the club didn’t have time to wait, but he wasn’t able to get everything across and we ran out of time to achieve what we wanted to do, which was unfortunate and he probably feels the same as me. It was a very similar outcome.

He didn’t have time to give a good account of himself. Although the time period was long, but there were bits missing due to personal reasons and COVID. You can’t do anything about that.

Do you think he can go on and learn from the experience and be a success?

I’m sure he will and he will use it as a learning experience. The advice he will be given will be about both the football coaching and the managerial side, and the latter is the bit I think he would be working on.

I think 100 per cent he’s going to become a top manager if that’s what he wants to go and do.

The easy criticism to make of Rovers under Garner is the recruitment side of things. Do you think the squad was put together as it should have been?

It was dreadful, but that wasn’t down to Ben Garner. I think it’s publicised that it was Ben Garner’s decision, but I don’t think it was, it was from other places.

If Ben was able to get the people he wanted in and the people he wanted out, it would be a different scenario, but he wasn’t allowed to do that and I think it’s very unfair to say it was all him. But that’s how football works, isn’t it.

It seemed to me that in certain ways the club was dysfunctional. Garner made decisions for players to leave, but the club was unable to move them on anywhere, and he wasn’t able to get some of his targets. Do you think the club let him down?

When you say the “club”, that’s such a broad term.

Yep read the full thing yesterday. Good interview.

Ben was always like by the players and no one doubts he’s a good coach. But managers and coaches are 2 very different things.

The recruitment is just getting annoying now, Garner says it was his squad, then it comes out that Widdrington was in charge, then it was Garner again - either way it was awful.

One thing Garner can do it set a team up to play ok, his problem is he can’t handle real managers picking his game apart. Our fitness was a shambles under Garner, I’ve never seen so many over weight, unfit players.

Some how he also turned JCH into a player who barely scores, he’s now worth £8m...

 

[The Terminator]

Rumours that Gary Neville and the class of Nerdy2 are to hold an emergency board meeting tomorrow to discuss their poor start to the season...........................

 

[TrinidadsNumberOne]

Almost like signing overpaid mercenaries with no infrastructure at the club or any form of team ethic doesn't get you promoted...

 

[denzel ecfc]

Their fan will be livid

 

[GTFCfish]

Their fan will be livid

Actually they have 6 fans, Gary, Phil, Nicky, Paul, David and Ryan.

 

[Indian Dan]

Funny as fuck now

 

[valefan16]

Rumours that Gary Neville and the class of Nerdy2 are to hold an emergency board meeting tomorrow to discuss their poor start to the season...........................

If true that’s ridiculous, Neville said he regrets pulling the trigger too soon last season on Alexander!

Is funny though to see them struggle.

 

[Robshep]

If true that’s ridiculous, Neville said he regrets pulling the trigger too soon last season on Alexander!

Is funny though to see them struggle.

It would be ridiculous if it was somebody else at a different club but he is definitely a 'do as i say not as i do' kind of person.

 

[Indian Dan]

If true that’s ridiculous, Neville said he regrets pulling the trigger too soon last season on Alexander!

Is funny though to see them struggle.

They didn’t play badly, tbf. Our keeper was, again, in tip top form. We scored a good goal but didnt really create much else. Our tippy tippy stuff looks easy on the eye until it goes off cock and then we look a bit cumbersome.

 

[BigDaveCUFC]

Rumours that Gary Neville and the class of Nerdy2 are to hold an emergency board meeting tomorrow to discuss their poor start to the season...........................

mentioned that on Thursday.

It won’t even be the poor start it will be the crowds the entire club is frankly based on free tickets, celebs and hype.

apart from maybe 400 odd fans the rest don’t turn up for actual football, their gates have dropped badly and more importantly they ain’t number one L2 talk on tv, papers or websites anymore.

how can you attract the day trippers and tv ‘fans’ when no one mentions how wonderful your club And journey is anymore.

the biggest downfall Salford will always have as they go higher is just becoming ‘a name in a league table’ or worse for them a two sentence match report in the Sunday newspaper.

 

[valefan16]

We’ve played them a few times and they are just so meh, facilities are awful (the training ones even worse than the ground) for example, at least Fleetwood have invested for example in infrastructure to go with the big rise.

Ultimately they’ve not been able to push on further and hopefully have hit their ceiling now.

 

[Robshep]

We’ve played them a few times and they are just so meh, facilities are awful (the training ones even worse than the ground) for example, at least Fleetwood have invested for example in infrastructure to go with the big rise.

Ultimately they’ve not been able to push on further and hopefully have hit their ceiling now.

Without the ex Man Utd players their ceiling was where they were at the time of them becoming involved. A lower division Northern Premier League club who occasionally did well.