Managerial Merry-Go-Round 2020/21

[Who Needs Mourinho]

Rumours Matt Sadler could be on his bike very soon stupid appointment in the first place very similar to what Tranmere did.

I loved Chris Hussey having a dig at Challinor and saying how amazing Sadler’s management was then only to leave after a few months.

 

[Agombar stool]

From the outside looking in, and I've no real idea of the style that Bradford's previous managers have adopted, but for me, you want someone that's going to adopt a style where you are on the front foot from the off, playing dynamic attacking football. You then have 16-20k home fans getting fully behind the team which is potentially worth a goal start. (cliché alert)

Recently it's been too easy to go to VP and tickle the chicken's bellies, especially under Mark Hughes where the fans were bored to tears. It's not a simple cut and paste but if you play the way Mike Flynn has for us this season I could see the Bantams doing really well.

 

[1862]

Seen quite a few neutral fans mention career suicide, but is this really the case?

Surely, anyone who comes in and fails are just added to a list of managers who have also failed. From the outside looking in, it reflects poorly on the club as opposed to anyone who chooses to manage the team. In fact, it’s a bit of a win-win situation for any manager coming in. Fail, and you can cry that we’re a poisoned chalice with no direction, picking up a handsome severance pay in the process. However, get us going and you can reap all the credit that comes with taking this club forward - which is absolutely massive.

I do agree with this point, I don't think it's career suicide but it's only nothing to lose if they don't already have a job that they're doing well in, which are the managers that everyone wants. So they can probably be a bit more selective in the jobs that they take.

 

[TrinidadsNumberOne]

Seen quite a few neutral fans mention career suicide, but is this really the case?

Surely, anyone who comes in and fails are just added to a list of managers who have also failed. From the outside looking in, it reflects poorly on the club as opposed to anyone who chooses to manage the team. In fact, it’s a bit of a win-win situation for any manager coming in. Fail, and you can cry that we’re a poisoned chalice with no direction, picking up a handsome severance pay in the process. However, get us going and you can reap all the credit that comes with taking this club forward - which is absolutely massive.

The potential here is ridiculous, should anyone get it right.

That being said, it won’t be Bell or Artell. We’ve gone down the legend route with McCall. We’ve tried managers who have succeeded in this league in Bowyer and Adams. We’ve tried promoting from within. We’ve tried the legends of the game, big name managers in Hughes. I have no idea who we’ll go with, but I highly doubt it being McDonald. He’s already said he’s not ready to hang his boots up.

Obviously this is all hypothetical because he's going nowhere but a job like this for Lee Bell is career suicide if it did go tits up. If he failed at Bradford what else would he have to fall back on? He has no achievements or success to his name in management. Those scrutinising him for future jobs would dismiss this current good spell with us as a purple patch and nothing more, thus making his hopes of a return to management in the future increasingly difficult.

For someone like Dave Artell it isn't career suicide. He has a promotion to fall back on but is also weighed down by a disastrous season two years ago. I still think if he failed at Bradford he'd be under consideration for another role elsewhere as a manager.

I wasn't saying it was career suicide for any manager. I merely meant that for Bell. It's happened so many times to rookie managers who made a jump only to get found out at a bigger club with expectations and are then never to be seen again in management.

 

[Kauto Star]

From the outside looking in, and I've no real idea of the style that Bradford's previous managers have adopted, but for me, you want someone that's going to adopt a style where you are on the front foot from the off, playing dynamic attacking football. You then have 16-20k home fans getting fully behind the team which is potentially worth a goal start. (cliché alert)

Recently it's been too easy to go to VP and tickle the chicken's bellies, especially under Mark Hughes where the fans were bored to tears. It's not a simple cut and paste but if you play the way Mike Flynn has for us this season I could see the Bantams doing really well.

Spot on with that summary on how the fans expect us to play. The last few years have been mainly a borefest, yet we still turn up in numbers.

Talking of Flynn, It wouldn't surprise me in the least to see us approach you for Fkynn. A very popular character here.

 

[GFC4EVA]

Rumours we're set to announce Steve Bruce as manager later today, notbsure I believe it tbh

 

[Indian Dan]

Going for the handsome approach to attract more female fans then.

 

[THE LAST WALTZ]

Going for the handsome approach to attract more female fans then.

The man played over 200 times for us, he is a fucking Adonis

 

[Conker]

I hope it happens just so we can keep the Hughes dinosaur theme going.

 

[WilsdenBantam]

A Hughes esk appointment if true, expect it will end in the same vein after an initial boost.

 

[JJ1990]

Rumours we're set to announce Steve Bruce as manager later today, notbsure I believe it tbh

When the Gallison's said a different direction, I didn't realise they meant a significantly worse one. The guy is a career 37.2% win ratio manager, knows nothing about the division and plays a style probably worse than Harris'. Has very Bradford/Hughes esq vibe to it. People get excited because he's a big name, but in reality it just screams poor choice.

 

[PuB]

I do not want Bruce.

 

[Bottega Don]

Gillingham fans are in for a shock if they thought Harris' style of football was bad

 

[Pilot_Phonic]

Rest of the league want Bruce - would make me feel better as we already have a dinosaur stuck in his ways.

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

I think we need Bruce to be able to complete the Mount Rushmore of dinosaurs in League Two.

 

[AusGill]

When the Gallison's said a different direction, I didn't realise they meant a significantly worse one. The guy is a career 37.2% win ratio manager, knows nothing about the division and plays a style probably worse than Harris'. Has very Bradford/Hughes esq vibe to it. People get excited because he's a big name, but in reality it just screams poor choice.

Not sure Bruce is the right manager for us.

But, 37% overall win ratio is bloody good. Especially when a fair portion of it is at lower prem teams with no budget, getting tonked by City regularly. No wonder he played a negative style there.

His playing style and win record with 4 promotions from the Championship is quality.

 

[Conker]

If it’s Bruce then the Harris sacking makes zero sense.

 

[GFC4EVA]

Deal off apparently thank fuck

 

[LS Bantam]

The flack on here that Bruce is getting and recently Phil Parkinson for their style of play when they must have the best part of ten promotions nearly between them.

 

[Casey]

Heard Bruce had attended a funeral in Gillingham for his ex youth team coach (or his wife) and that's why he got raised in the odds.

I was hoping because I think you might nick our manager. That'll please Nadersan.

Casey

 

[PuB]

Heard Bruce had attended a funeral in Gillingham for his ex youth team coach (or his wife) and that's why he got raised in the odds.

He did indeed, was the wife of club legend Buster Collins sadly, who I believe Bruce knew very well.

 

[THE LAST WALTZ]

Rumour is that Bruce was at the club today but the cost his back room team is the sticking point.
His record with Palace, Birmingham, Huddersfield etc. was very good. Add in that he is a club legend and I would personally be delighted.
Sadly, looks like it ain’t going to happen.

 

[Gi Dalor]

Heard Bruce had attended a funeral in Gillingham for his ex youth team coach (or his wife) and that's why he got raised in the odds.

I was hoping because I think you might nick our manager. That'll please Nadersan.

Casey

Where do we think things stand with Lindsay and Andy Hessanthaler, because of Jake H? I assume SL and AH, and also Kenny Jackett are very close, but might the Jake situation have soured things?

 

[Master D]

The flack on here that Bruce is getting and recently Phil Parkinson for their style of play when they must have the best part of ten promotions nearly between them.

Parky knows this level inside out though and you could see him adding to his promotion record as he's still successful.

Bruce has never managed this low down, he's always been a Prem/Championship level manager. Even if he went to Gillingham I still wouldn't fancy him to take them up. I don't think players these days would respond to him just because he is a big name. Most probably weren't even born when he was playing and then first started managing. I think it would be very similar to Hughes at Bradford.

 

[JJ1990]

The flack on here that Bruce is getting and recently Phil Parkinson for their style of play when they must have the best part of ten promotions nearly between them.

Football moves on. Bruce has one promotion in the last 10 years and flopped badly with Villa and West Brom in the Championship. His recent track record is far more relevant than a promotion he achieved in 2002 or 2006.

 

[lordofthepies]

But, 37% overall win ratio is bloody good. Especially when a fair portion of it is at lower prem teams with no budget, getting tonked by City regularly. No wonder he played a negative style there.

Correct, this is the problem with people who take win % to prove a point - it means absolutely nothing without context. Not knowing the league is a nonsense argument as well, I'd much rather have a manager who has never managed in the league than one who has but not been particularly successful.

That being said, I think Bruce is finished and don't think appointing him would be a good idea.

 

[PuB]

Personally I think Bruce would be about as successful as Mark Hughes at this level.

 

[Gi Dalor]

The Bradford City story in The Guardian tossing out 2 new (AFAIK) names for the vacancy that they reckon have applied; Scott Brown and Neil Lennon.
I probably have seen Brown linked somewhere, but not really paid much attention. I think Lennon's a new one.

 

[Indian Dan]

Bradford really need to fuck off from L2. How they’ve floundered for so long is a dreadful indictment of those in charge. Got everything going for them to go on a charge up the pyramid. Must be dismal for their fans.

 

[GEORGE]

Bradford really need to fuck off from L2. How they’ve floundered for so long is a dreadful indictment of those in charge. Got everything going for them to go on a charge up the pyramid. Must be dismal for their fans.

They've had a small period when they achieved promotion to the premier league -- But lets not forget in the 60's & 70's them and their city rivals spent most of there time in the bottom two divisions. Sometimes bottom or nearly bottom of the bottom division.