Managerial Merry-Go-Round 2020/21

[Optipez]

Not sure why everyone's got a downer on Pete Wild. He is a mardy arse, his fist pumps and aggression is irritating but he had it all on at Oldham, did well at Halifax and same at Barrow.
His teams did fall away at Halifax and Barrow at the end of the season but at Halifax they were over-achieving and arguably the same at Barrow.
Interested to see where he ends up.

 

[Stocky]

Not sure why everyone's got a downer on Pete Wild. He is a mardy arse, his fist pumps and aggression is irritating but he had it all on at Oldham, did well at Halifax and same at Barrow.
His teams did fall away at Halifax and Barrow at the end of the season but at Halifax they were over-achieving and arguably the same at Barrow.
Interested to see where he ends up.

He didn't really over achieve. He's good at making everyone think he did. Halifax got into the play-offs last season under Wild's successor and they won the FA Trophy final the year before under Wild's successor.

Barrow will finish no lower under Stephen Clemence. Wild tried to drag expectations down.

He won't last 2 minutes at a club with expectation.

And he's gigantic fist pumping whinger.

 

[BarraMatt]

If you don't want a bland 3-5-2 then Wild isn't the manager for you. It's great when you're winning but once found out there's no other plan. Hence why we completely capitulated two seasons on the bang. First season wasn't an issue, but throwing away the position we were in last season was a disgrace really. He was backed both Januarys as well.

 

[shoddycollins]

If you don't want a bland 3-5-2 then Wild isn't the manager for you. It's great when you're winning but once found out there's no other plan. Hence why we completely capitulated two seasons on the bang. First season wasn't an issue, but throwing away the position we were in last season was a disgrace really. He was backed both Januarys as well.

Feel like you can say that of almost any manager... I can't remember the last time a Carlisle manager was sacked when one of the main criticisms wasn't 'no plan B'... Managers will have thier preferred ways of playing and will be at a disadvantage if they have to adjust how they set up when the opposition manager is still on plan A

 

[JJ1990]

Feel like you can say that of almost any manager... I can't remember the last time a Carlisle manager was sacked when one of the main criticisms wasn't 'no plan B'... Managers will have thier preferred ways of playing and will be at a disadvantage if they have to adjust how they set up when the opposition manager is still on plan A

Fans, unsurprisingly, have way too high expectations of who they want appointed. Said manager should be young, play good football, have a viable plan B, have experience in the league, have not been sacked, ideally have a promotion or two under his belt. Realistically, you'd be lucky to get half of those things.

 

[Carver]

I just want us to get someone who gets us playing as a team and winning again.

Surely that's not too much to ask for in a new manager.

 

[Stocky]

I just want us to get someone who gets us playing as a team and winning again.

Surely that's not too much to ask for in a new manager.

I'd get you in Carver.

At least they'd show some fight and desire, pal.

 

[hellogregory]

I also would be against appointing Wild. But if it happened I’d get behind him and give him a chance.

I think our current forward players are our biggest strength, but they haven’t been used properly at all so far. So I’d like the next manager to be quite front foot and attack minded.

 

[Carver]

I also would be against appointing Wild. But if it happened I’d get behind him and give him a chance.

I think our current forward players are our biggest strength, but they haven’t been used properly at all so far. So I’d like the next manager to be quite front foot and attack minded.

They're gonna have to be attack minded to get us up the table and away from any danger.

No more fannying around and playing poorly.

 

[GTFCfish]

So I’d like the next manager to be quite front foot and attack minded.

 

[BigDaveCUFC]

They are American owners with little knowledge of lower league football, I don’t think this scenario has fantastic track records of bringing in the right manager, I think that is one of the single biggest reasons Simpson was allowed to continue.

The question will be whether they ask around people who know this levelor just attempt to get someone who is a name regardless of whether it works or not, because it looks good back in the states.

Whether I enjoy the media sideshow to Wrexham or not their American owners at least went with a manager who has a pretty good record down here and backed him and still have stuck with him and not ditched for a big name for tv……they easily could have been in the ‘let’s get Rooney’ club.

Need a sensible steady ship type appointment now to push club back into right direction.

It is not as easy as looks, no offence to club here but Bradford each season has the fanbase the look the ground the resources and each time it seems to be wrong managerial appointment…..Salford until recently also same issues, being able to wave a few pound notes isn’t going to bring instant success.

 

[BlackHaddock]

Michael Jolly is managing in Spain with

Vélez CF.​

And Marcus Bignot is assistant head coach at Swindon.

Anthony Limbrick is kicking around at Peterborough.

That's about Carlisle's level.

All three failed at Grimsby, but it might be worth Carlisle having a chat with them (even if they all turned you down).

 

[chipmunx]

Michael Jolly is managing in Spain with

Vélez CF.​

And Marcus Bignot is assistant head coach at Swindon.

Anthony Limbrick is kicking around at Peterborough.

That's about Carlisle's level.

All three failed at Grimsby, but it might be worth Carlisle having a chat with them (even if they all turned you down).

He'd be a good fit for Carlisle... we got rid of him after only 7 games.

 

[Gi Dalor]

They are American owners with little knowledge of lower league football, I don’t think this scenario has fantastic track records of bringing in the right manager, I think that is one of the single biggest reasons Simpson was allowed to continue.



The question will be whether they ask around people who know this levelor just attempt to get someone who is a name regardless of whether it works or not, because it looks good back in the states.



Whether I enjoy the media sideshow to Wrexham or not their American owners at least went with a manager who has a pretty good record down here and backed him and still have stuck with him and not ditched for a big name for tv……they easily could have been in the ‘let’s get Rooney’ club.



Need a sensible steady ship type appointment now to push club back into right direction.

It is not as easy as looks, no offence to club here but Bradford each season has the fanbase the look the ground the resources and each time it seems to be wrong managerial appointment…..Salford until recently also same issues, being able to wave a few pound notes isn’t going to bring instant success.

I probably supported every single managerial sacking in recent years, and there's been a lot, but I think even if you get the manager right, you still have to show a little patience.

Of our last 9 managers, only 1 (Mark Hughes - 20 months including 2 whole off-seasons) was given more than a year. Graham Alexander will be the second if he makes it to November.

 

[hellogregory]

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He isn’t.

 

[shoddycollins]

They are American owners with little knowledge of lower league football, I don’t think this scenario has fantastic track records of bringing in the right manager, I think that is one of the single biggest reasons Simpson was allowed to continue.

The question will be whether they ask around people who know this levelor just attempt to get someone who is a name regardless of whether it works or not, because it looks good back in the states.

They aren't making the decision alone though, Clibbens was CEO of Huddersfield during their rise to the Premiership and was the man responsible for bringing David Wagner to England so I'm sure he knows a thing or two about appointing a manager. Maybe he was also responsible for Keith Millen, but we don't know for certain since most fans viewed him as just being a mouthpiece for the previous owners, the optimist in me wants to say this will be the first time Clibbens has had a chance to wield serious influence in who we appoint and he'll show his experience with a strong appointment.

 

[shoddycollins]

Fans, unsurprisingly, have way too high expectations of who they want appointed. Said manager should be young, play good football, have a viable plan B, have experience in the league, have not been sacked, ideally have a promotion or two under his belt. Realistically, you'd be lucky to get half of those things.

Without getting carried away I do have higher expectations than I've ever had before for a managerial appointment... for the first time since I've been supporting United we aren't just going to go with the cheapest option.

 

[GTFCfish]

He isn’t.

I know.

 

[hellogregory]

I know.

 

[Gi Dalor]

Tom Piatek (owner) has released a letter

TOM PIATAK SPEAKS ON PLANS FOR RESTRUCTURING FOOTBALL DEPARTMENT | Carlisle United Football Club

www.carlisleunited.co.uk

making it clear that they're going to restructure by appointing a sporting Director first, and then find a head coach, so they clearly haven't got Pete Wild lined up already. Presumably he's on his way to Blackpool.

 

[Optipez]

I probably supported every single managerial sacking in recent years, and there's been a lot, but I think even if you get the manager right, you still have to show a little patience.

Of our last 9 managers, only 1 (Mark Hughes - 20 months including 2 whole off-seasons) was given more than a year. Graham Alexander will be the second if he makes it to November.

I've seen us plough through over 25 managers. Even with the most stable of owners we're on our fourth in five seasons and five games of this one.
Unless the club is well funded, very well managed from top to bottom and patient you'll never get more than the odd successful season because there's so many variables that can go wrong.
Carlisle, all clubs really, need a good manager, luck with injuries, a chief exec who gets on with people, can manage money and makes shrewd decisions and a competitive budget and probably owners who aren't trigger happy and who see football club ownership as an expensive hobby with big responsibilities.
That's quite a combination but to have five or ten good years running I think that's what's needed.

 

[GTFCfish]

Michael Jolly is managing in Spain with

Vélez CF.​

And Marcus Bignot is assistant head coach at Swindon.

Anthony Limbrick is kicking around at Peterborough.

That's about Carlisle's level.

All three failed at Grimsby, but it might be worth Carlisle having a chat with them (even if they all turned you down).

To be fair Bignot didn’t fail here, he was unfairly sacked for being too honest about finances and because Fenty’s mate Slade was available at the time.
And that worked out well.

 

[Scum.]

Williamson. Leave.

 

[Conker]

Williamson. Leave.

Why

 

[RavenBish]

2 horse race between Williamson and Cook for the next dismissal

 

[jacobncfc]

2 horse race between Williamson and Cook for the next dismissal

A straight scrap between the world’s most non-descript and world’s most distinctive voice.

 

[Scum.]

Why

We have not been good since about March and it’s not the squad that’s the problem. Tactically inept and uninspiring.

 

[shoddycollins]

New owners at Dongs and performing well below expectations so far, I'm surprised he's lasted as long as he has.

 

[Carver]

Lee Bell of Crewe has been linked with us.

How's he been Crewe fans?

 

[BlackHaddock]

Lee Bell of Crewe has been linked with us.

How's he been Crewe fans?

Bit of 'an end' I believe, it would be a right clanger if you pulled him.