Promotion thread

[JJ1532]

Genuinely won't care if we struggle next year, or even get relegated straight back down. It will be worth it for promotion/winning the championship this year. Would rather have a year of success followed by relative disappointment than years more of mid table mediocrity. You never know, we may continue to confound expectations and have a great time in league one. I've always felt that underestimation by the opposition is our biggest asset. Long may it continue.

Also, we have never been relegated under Coleman. Just saying.

I'd back you to surprise a few next season. Nobody will fancy going to your place, not with the facilities you've got. You guys relish it, but it's no surprise to see most visiting teams wilt. Accrington v Sunderland in a league fixture will be brilliant to watch. Must be the biggest size difference for a league match in a long time.

 

[Davidimp]

A weekly budget of just 8k !
Wow just wow! Puts the rest of us to shame!

 

[Impish]

Nice to see Mansfield & County bottling it as I predicted.

Said all season we'd finish above Mansfield (got laughed at). Said since January County won't even make the play-offs (got laughed at). Said all season Grimsby would go down (got laughed at). Granted, none of the above may happen still but ALL are looking very likely.

I sharn't name names, you know who you are.

My football knowledge is superior to most on here, if all of the above does happen I'd like a blue tick next to my name please admin.

 

[The Reverend Skyblue]

Obviously with the best goals against record I am hoping that Monday was a blip. Yeovil had seven shots on target and scored six of them.
I think the players will really want to put things right Saturday, and the kick up the backside they got will work for us till the end of the season.
3-1 to us, fingers crossed

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

Well said Sir

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

Nice to see Mansfield & County bottling it as I predicted.

Said all season we'd finish above Mansfield (got laughed at). Said since January County won't even make the play-offs (got laughed at). Said all season Grimsby would go down (got laughed at). Granted, none of the above may happen still but ALL are looking very likely.

I sharn't name names, you know who you are.

My football knowledge is superior to most on here, if all of the above does happen I'd like a blue tick next to my name please admin.

If you haven’t bet on some, if not all these outcomes, it means nothing son.

 

[TrinidadsNumberOne]

There's genuinely nothing between the bottom half of League One and the whole of League Two. Every year, there's a conglomerate of 8-10 (or even 12) clubs that struggle each season for a multitude of reasons, and the worst 4 go down. I'm confident that the likes of Oldham and Walsall who have been stagnant in that league for years would struggle in this league as they lack a winning mentality, particularly the former who have been between 15th-19th for almost the last decade! Whereas clubs with more financial muscle like MK, Oxford and supposedly Northampton would be well equipped to come straight back up. Likewise, a well run club like Rochdale, complete with cup money from this season, might compete at the top end compared to a basket case club like Bury that needs a significant squad overhaul in the Summer.

 

[Impish]

If you haven’t bet on some, if not all these outcomes, it means nothing son.

Respect means more to me than money. I don't expect you to understand, you and your horn headed brothers pillaged your way through this country without a care in the world

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

Respect means more to me than money. I don't expect you to understand, you and your horn headed brothers pillaged your way through this country without a care in the world

A lot of poor folk say such silly things

Respect? From whom, people you don’t know? Fans of other football teams on an Internet football forum.

Ok, whatever floats your boat

I’ll take that as no you didn’t

 

[denzel ecfc]

A weekly budget of just 8k !
Wow just wow! Puts the rest of us to shame!

Allegedly

 

[Kenneth E End]

A weekly budget of just 8k !
Wow just wow! Puts the rest of us to shame!

Yeah on a par with part time NL clubs!

 

[Davidimp]

Yeah on a par with part time NL clubs!

Yeah Basford has a weekly budget of £4000.
In our dark days in the NL our annual budget was between 6-700k.

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

NL , yuk!

 

[Luke Imp]

A weekly budget of just 8k !
Wow just wow! Puts the rest of us to shame!

That guy's on a wind-up. No way it's that.

Yeah Basford has a weekly budget of £4000.
In our dark days in the NL our annual budget was between 6-700k.

Much less than that most of the time.

 

[Youpies]

There's no way that accy budget is true. Simple maths...

 

[AdamStag]

A squad of 20 would mean the average would be £400 a week per player. Take into account it would normally include the physio etc it's very hard to see that happening

 

[Maple Hatter]

The difference in skill between Championship and League one is enormous but the difference in League one and League two is significant. Looking at the sides in contention to get promoted from League 2 this season I really think only Luton will have any chance to establish themselves at the higher grade.For one thing you need to have money in order to compete with some of the bigger clubs. We ourselves spent over half a million on two players and I would say we are one of the poorer clubs budget wise. Accrington may surprise a few but others will be nearer the bottom.And after watching Bury on Friday I would stress if they can sort out their current problems will be challenging at the right end of the table.

Many of the sides in league one have a long league two tradition and have spent a lof of their time yoyoing betweeen the two leagues. Blackpool who finished 7th last season, scraping into the play öffs, are the worst placed team promoted from league two and they are mid table, that despite their off the field problems. None of the teams relegated from league one last season look as if they will make the auto spots and only Coventry are in the top 7 at the moment. I wouldn't therefore say the overall difference is significant. Perhaps Blackburn and Wigan with their financial resources are head and shoulders above the rest in league one and the same may apply next season with Sunderland, although some very big clubs have been in league one and struggled. Shrewsbury were a league two club not so long ago and are now in the promotion hunt (with a chap called Whalley who struggled in the conference with us). I've no doubt you have to invest in better players but the difference is more adapting to the style of play perhaps. The media focuses a lot on the culture shock when a team gets relegated (main focus PL to Championship), but equally the culture shock works in the opposite direction. I'm hoping that our style of football is more suited to league one than league two and with a few changes we can consolidate. (Should we go up I might add).

 

[Luke Imp]

A squad of 20 would mean the average would be £400 a week per player. Take into account it would normally include the physio etc it's very hard to see that happening

But, but, this guy has seen the contracts and has inside info and everything...

https://twitter.com/IlkestonRed

Some of his replies to people are brilliant.

 

[AdamStag]

Many of the sides in league one have a long league two tradition and have spent a lof of their time yoyoing betweeen the two leagues. Blackpool who finished 7th last season, scraping into the play öffs, are the worst placed team promoted from league two and they are mid table, that despite their off the field problems. None of the teams relegated from league one last season look as if they will make the auto spots and only Coventry are in the top 7 at the moment. I wouldn't therefore say the overall difference is significant. Perhaps Blackburn and Wigan with their financial resources are head and shoulders above the rest in league one and the same may apply next season with Sunderland, although some very big clubs have been in league one and struggled. Shrewsbury were a league two club not so long ago and are now in the promotion hunt (with a chap called Whalley who struggled in the conference with us). I've no doubt you have to invest in better players but the difference is more adapting to the style of play perhaps. The media focuses a lot on the culture shock when a team gets relegated (main focus PL to Championship), but equally the culture shock works in the opposite direction. I'm hoping that our style of football is more suited to league one than league two and with a few changes we can consolidate. (Should we go up I might add).

We used to be one of those clubs until the mid 90s. We just did yo back up again, apart from one season in the early 2000's.

 

[SoutheySWFC]

Nice to see Mansfield & County bottling it as I predicted.

Said all season we'd finish above Mansfield (got laughed at). Said since January County won't even make the play-offs (got laughed at). Said all season Grimsby would go down (got laughed at). Granted, none of the above may happen still but ALL are looking very likely.

I sharn't name names, you know who you are.

My football knowledge is superior to most on here, if all of the above does happen I'd like a blue tick next to my name please admin.

Nobody likes a smug c***.

 

[Davidimp]

That guy's on a wind-up. No way it's that.


Much less than that most of the time.

You're right mate sorry wasn't it as low as 400k at one point?
Yeah they must paying more than that surely?
Kee, Jackson and a few of the others must be on decent money?
Can't believe players of that ilk are on £4-500 a week they'd be better playing part time as that was our problem for a spell the good part time lads could earn more playing part time and working than they would paying full time for us. Our top earners were on around £700 a week wasn't it Luke when were skint and the bank were after their money?

 

[TrinidadsNumberOne]

If I'm right, Accrington and Morecambe have the lowest budgets in our league and I've seen them quoted at around £600,000-£650,000 a season.

That would suggest a weekly wage budget of around £12,000, which is still incredible nonetheless but more believable.

 

[SoutheySWFC]

Maybe the playing staff budget is 400k, the rest is on management etc.

Regardless it is a fucking amazing acheivement by Accy

 

[AdamStag]

I can't see any side functioning on less than £750k, if so then fair play.

£750k comes in at about £14400 - split that between 20 and it becomes £700 odd a week, split between 25(there's 24 players on their books according to their website) to include physios etc then it comes £524

Either that, or he's very persuasive, or they have massive incentive bonuses

 

[TrinidadsNumberOne]

I can't see any side functioning on less than £750k, if so then fair play.

£750k comes in at about £14400 - split that between 20 and it becomes £700 odd a week, split between 25(there's 24 players on their books according to their website) to include physios etc then it comes £524

Either that, or he's very persuasive, or they have massive incentive bonuses

But if you look into Accrington's recruitment, then the £600,000 is believable. Their policy is signing young cast offs from local lower league clubs, down and outs like Billy Kee given a second chance and young lads from very low down in the non league who were part timers. Until this year, Accrington only gave players a one year deal maximum in case they were relegated as it'd have catastrophic consequences for them if they went down with a load of players on two year deals. They were spending slightly less than this in 2009 when their club nearly went bust, with the vast majority of their players genuinely being on £350-£400 a week according to a few of their fans at the time and only a handful earning more than that.

It's also worth noting that despite being full time, Macclesfield are about to go up with a budget that's just over half of what Accrington's is as well (£350,000-£400,000). So it's very much possible to run a full time club on a budget like that that in my opinion.

 

[Luke Imp]

Maybe the playing staff budget is 400k, the rest is on management etc.

Regardless it is a fucking amazing acheivement by Accy

The guy was saying it was inclusive of everyone.

 

[northstandexile]

I bet Accy’s wage bill don’t include the cost of the MacDonald burgers after every match.

 

[Devon_Lad]

But if you look into Accrington's recruitment, then the £600,000 is believable. Their policy is signing young cast offs from local lower league clubs, down and outs like Billy Kee given a second chance and young lads from very low down in the non league who were part timers. Until this year, Accrington only gave players a one year deal maximum in case they were relegated as it'd have catastrophic consequences for them if they went down with a load of players on two year deals. They were spending slightly less than this in 2009 when their club nearly went bust, with the vast majority of their players genuinely being on £350-£400 a week according to a few of their fans at the time and only a handful earning more than that.

It's also worth noting that despite being full time, Macclesfield are about to go up with a budget that's just over half of what Accrington's is as well (£350,000-£400,000). So it's very much possible to run a full time club on a budget like that that in my opinion.

Hasn't Billy Kee just signed a new contract with them? If you think he'd sign for anything less than 900-1000 a week you're a fool.

 

[TrinidadsNumberOne]

Hasn't Billy Kee just signed a new contract with them? If you think he'd sign for anything less than 900-1000 a week you're a fool.

As I said, some individuals will earn more than the pittances Accrington are paying their squad, especially if they score more than 20 goals a year...

 

[AdamStag]

I bet Accy’s wage bill don’t include the cost of the MacDonald burgers after every match.

If they get a McDonald's each time they win I'm surprised they can walk by now