Promotion thread

[Moomin]

A quote from the Dark Knight always springs to mind with managers like Wenger, Tisdale etc. "You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villian". Whilst that isn't literal in this sense, I think the general point is very true. If Tisdale had moved elsewhere after the 10-11 season, when he got Exeter to just outside the League One play offs, the height of their rise, he would have been revered by almost all the fan base. But he stayed too long, oversaw the decline and now he is resented. I've seen it at the Alex with Dario Gradi. Arsenal with Wenger. Probably the same for a lot of managers who've been at one club for a long time.

Football fans also have a recency bias, we're very much in a "what have you done for me lately" world where the achievement of the last 12-24 months are the only thing that matter to fans.

From the outside looking in, it seems crazy. But listen to a first hand account and it makes a bit more sense.

Nail on head.

When we got to 8th in L1 i genuinely thought he could get us into the Championship but since then the wheels have fallen off somewhat...BUT I do think the last 18 months has been an impressive turnaround and I am content with him in charge while he keeps this level of form going.

He develops and trusts the youth players which is a massive plus to his management and you can see he loves the club. Trouble is, if we do go up but then struggle, the fans would turn on him straight away. Sounds crazy but it would happen.

 

[Tarzan]

Nail on head.

When we got to 8th in L1 i genuinely thought he could get us into the Championship but since then the wheels have fallen off somewhat...BUT I do think the last 18 months has been an impressive turnaround and I am content with him in charge while he keeps this level of form going.

He develops and trusts the youth players which is a massive plus to his management and you can see he loves the club. Trouble is, if we do go up but then struggle, the fans would turn on him straight away. Sounds crazy but it would happen.

The problem we had was that the side who got to L1 was largely the same one who'd got us out of the Conference. The desctiption at the time was something like a L1 one side on Conference wages so it was inevitable that the better players would be picked off and we couldn't afford to replace them and retain our place. We made a desperate attempt but for some reason the answer wasn't Rohan Ricketts or Jonathan Fortune

I don't think I'd say that the wheels have fallen off since, we've just found what, for the moment, is a more natural level (I know that sounds really unambitious). I'd agree though that the last 18 months has definitely seen an impressive turnaround since that awful spell at the start of 2016/17.

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[LongEatonPie]

Think every side will want Notts County in the play offs. Few reasons.

1. Good away allocation.

2. Look to be the poorest side on the whole. Rode their luck throughout the season.

3. Nolan's inexperience will show over two legs.

4. They just lost to Grimsby. Confidence will be low.

On the flip, at present we have
1. lost the least (with Lincoln),
2. scored the most,
3. have the better goal difference
4. Have never lost when scoring first at home.
5. Have better results against the top half than the bottom 3!

I don’t think confidence will have anything to do with Notts, we have been indifferent since the turn of the year, so now makes no difference.
I also don’t thing we rode our look all season, in fact the past 3 months we have had rubbish “luck”.

The inexperience point is a valid one and in particular Nolan not knowing how to try different things, blimey it took him 40 games to realise we had another striker at the club apart from Stead and Shola!

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

Think every side will want Notts County in the play offs. Few reasons.

1. Good away allocation.

2. Look to be the poorest side on the whole. Rode their luck throughout the season.

3. Nolan's inexperience will show over two legs.

4. They just lost to Grimsby. Confidence will be low.

Must try harder Impish.

Remember a month ago when you said that Notts wouldn’t even make the playoffs? At least you got the Imps finishing above Stags prediction correct, right?

 

[Impish]

Must try harder Impish.

Remember a month ago when you said that Notts wouldn’t even make the playoffs? At least you got the Imps finishing above Stags prediction correct, right?

Funny you mention that prediction, I've been sweating a lot on it. If stags sneak in ahead of us then I'll be wrong on all 3 as I had Grimsby going down as well.

Not my finest hour!

 

[Sydney Posse]

Nail on head.

When we got to 8th in L1 i genuinely thought he could get us into the Championship but since then the wheels have fallen off somewhat...BUT I do think the last 18 months has been an impressive turnaround and I am content with him in charge while he keeps this level of form going.

He develops and trusts the youth players which is a massive plus to his management and you can see he loves the club. Trouble is, if we do go up but then struggle, the fans would turn on him straight away. Sounds crazy but it would happen.

Still the best we have had in my time watching since the 70's with 2 promotions, 3 wembley trips, playoffs this season and last. I know it is a lot of people contributing on the youth who have been developed and sold, but he nurtures them into the team at the right time. He is a very decent manager in my view, who at times manages a club with no money, and when he does do well, all the best players leave. Must drive him bonkers. I personally do not care about the newspaper articles or alleged hand gestures, or even the negative interview technique, the only thing that grates me is the sometimes very tedious brand of football. Can't see him staying, and I really hope I am wrong, but I think he will be a big loss

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

Well that would be a comical and complete 180 wouldn’t it. You said people laughed at you for these predictions (I actually applaud you for backing yourself and stating in advance what you think will happen, such a rarity on here) you also claimed superior football knowledge (which has obviously proven laughable).

Surely Lincoln won’t slip up now? Not at home ! I think you’ll end up 1 outta 3. And tbh before we beat the sky blues at home I would of agreed with the Notts not making the playoffs one. We were on an awful run.

Nolan’s talented no doubt but his inexperience May tell. It’s weird Lincoln are the only potential opponent we have to lost to this season, yet they are side I want to play the least .

 

[Conker]

The fact we still have a slim hope of replacing either Lincoln or Coventry in the play-offs despite our form under Flitcroft is mad.

We should be down and out, I haven’t even looked at the table for ages I thought Lincoln were doing a lot better.

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

It’s bananas that Mansfield have fallen out and almost equally bananas that they still have a chance of getting into the play offs.

They just need one more choke from above

 

[GTFCfish]

It’s bananas that Mansfield have fallen out and almost equally bananas that they still have a chance of getting into the play offs.

They just need one more choke from above

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

That’s brilliant fish! Pictorial banter at its absolute best

 

[Benladdie3000]

It’s bananas that Mansfield have fallen out and almost equally bananas that they still have a chance of getting into the play offs.

They just need one more choke from above

Mansfield lol joke of a club

 

[Conker]

Mansfield lol joke of a club

Fabulous input.

 

[AdamStag]

Fabulous input.

A joke of a poster, also.

 

[AdamStag]

I actually think the playoffs will be pretty decent this season, Exeter, county, Lincoln and Coventry are all similar ability wise.

That some of our fans still think we have a chance is funny. Who knows, maybe on the SIXTH attempt, flitcroft might actually win a home game.

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

Anything is possible, how many predicted Exeter would get turned over so easily against nothing to play for Stevenage?

It’s only a combination of two results needed from 3 teams. If Stags do sneak in and it’s at the expense of Lincoln. Now that would be funny*



* this won’t happen

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

A joke of a poster, also.

I don’t know who he is, or his history of postings but is he actually wrong?

 

[Conker]

I would not be suprised if Lincoln or Coventry bottled it, I'm not sure we are capable of taking advantage though

 

[Spanishstag]

Not saying its gonna happen ,but we could easily be in the play offs by teatime saturday ,my god them lincoln fans ,or coventry fans would be in tears jus sayin ,flitcrofts army lol

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

He’s right you know

 

[Benladdie3000]

I revel in infamy

 

[Spanishstag]

I revel in infamy

W

I revel in infamy

I revel in infamy

Wtf has happened to colin wankers face looks like hes been to one of vincent tans dodgy plastic surgeons

 

[denzel ecfc]

As an outsider looking in this seems pretty mad, even doing well this season Exeter having been getting less than 4k at times and have to sell their best players every year. Coupled with a bit of bad luck with injuries (Exeter would surely have been looking at automatic if they hadn't lost their two CBs?) and what more do the fans expect? Is it a just a vocal minority?

Pretty much a vocal and idiotic minority yes. Oh and the main reason we've been around 4k for games is only having a two sided ground. The Main Stand is sold out every week

 

[Youpies]

To be fair Mansfield will probably win on Saturday, it’s just unlikely that Cov and or Lincoln will lose

 

[Stagat]

It’s weird Lincoln are the only potential opponent we have to lost to this season, yet they are side I want to play the least .

That's not weird.

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

That's not weird.

Why isn’t it?

 

[Trapdoor]

Normally I would be hyped about playoffs but after losing in the final last year and ballsing up our shot at the autos this year I simply don't care right now.

I'm sure if we get to the final I will go wild but at the moment I'm fully expecting us to lose 10-0 in our 2 initial playoff legs.

 

[Devon_Lad]

Pretty much a vocal and idiotic minority yes. Oh and the main reason we've been around 4k for games is only having a two sided ground. The Main Stand is sold out every week

Stupid comment, and false. The vast majority of fans despise Tisdale. His remarks in national newspapers, his stubborn arrogance not to play one of our best talents at the club because they had a disagreement (Sparks), his boring football, his inability to get us promoted on one of the largest budgets this year, his moronic tactics and substitutions, our home record over the last 4 years has been nothing short of an embarrassment.

To call the majority of the fans idiotic for wanting change is pathetic. He came into our club with most of the gems already there, taking over from Inglethorpe. Got back to back promotions from it and has been utter crap since.

The reason we've served notice on his contract (Thank god!) is because the MAJORITY of the fans want him out. It's only delusional fans who are happy with mediocre football that want him to stay.

 

[Moomin]

Tisdale has confirmed in the press that both Troy Brown and Jordan Moore-Taylor are back in full training so I am hoping both with feature in the playoffs, which would be huge for us.

Harley and Woodman also back to give extra depth which will be needed.

 

[Trapdoor]

Stupid comment, and false. The vast majority of fans despise Tisdale.

You've got bugger all evidence for that because it's simply not true.