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In our first game with Sutton you can definitely see why they have done as well as they have. We actually played them off the park first half but they came back strong and put some really challenging deliveries into our box which we struggled with at that time. Second time round it did seem we had found them out and they couldn’t cope with our pressing game. Whether they may have been distracted by Wembley only they know though. Personally I expect them to finish top 7.
 

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In our first game with Sutton you can definitely see why they have done as well as they have. We actually played them off the park first half but they came back strong and put some really challenging deliveries into our box which we struggled with at that time. Second time round it did seem we had found them out and they couldn’t cope with our pressing game. Whether they may have been distracted by Wembley only they know though. Personally I expect them to finish top 7.

They’ve had a very solid first season, with something to build potentially, lovely fans in the pub before the game too
 

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They’ve had a very solid first season, with something to build potentially, lovely fans in the pub before the game too
Similar to us, if they don't go up, they could find a lot of their better players being snapped up
 
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Similar to us, if they don't go up, they could find a lot of their better players being snapped up
Would be the same for everyone though. Even if we were to go up the bigger clubs in League 1 could come calling. Don't get me wrong, we're one of the bigger clubs in L2 but League 1 is a different monster these days. Obviously we stand more of a chance of keeping players if we do go up but we wouldn't be considered a big club in League 1 like we are in L2.

Next season will have Derby, Pboro, Barnsley, and potentially a few of Sheff Weds, Bolton, Portsmouth, Sunderland, Plymouth, Ipswich and Charlton of the top of my head. That's 10 who could all make good arguments for the title.
 

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Next season will have Derby, Pboro, Barnsley, and potentially a few of Sheff Weds, Bolton, Portsmouth, Sunderland, Plymouth, Ipswich and Charlton of the top of my head. That's 10 who could all make good arguments for the title.
L1 is a real bastard to get promoted from, just look at Sunderland's struggles. Loads of clubs there who as you say could all make a claim.

When we were up there fighting for promotion there were nowhere near as many big clubs as there are now. We wouldn't stand a chance these days without a huge benefactor. For a few reasons It's going the same way as the Championship in that there are leagues within the league.
 

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Would be the same for everyone though. Even if we were to go up the bigger clubs in League 1 could come calling. Don't get me wrong, we're one of the bigger clubs in L2 but League 1 is a different monster these days. Obviously we stand more of a chance of keeping players if we do go up but we wouldn't be considered a big club in League 1 like we are in L2.

Next season will have Derby, Pboro, Barnsley, and potentially a few of Sheff Weds, Bolton, Portsmouth, Sunderland, Plymouth, Ipswich and Charlton of the top of my head. That's 10 who could all make good arguments for the title.
Evans and Nicholson may stay if we go up. I hear Harry Anderson is being watched by other clubs but at least he is contracted for next season.
With 3 regular first teamers on loan it will be a different Rovers team next season either way.
I'm quite happy competing in the top end of L2 at the moment so not fussed if we don't go up. Until a new ground is in the pipeline it makes no difference as we can pack the Mem as we are.
 

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L1 is a real bastard to get promoted from, just look at Sunderland's struggles. Loads of clubs there who as you say could all make a claim.

When we were up there fighting for promotion there were nowhere near as many big clubs as there are now. We wouldn't stand a chance these days without a huge benefactor. For a few reasons It's going the same way as the Championship in that there are leagues within the league.
I dont know about that. Wycombe are doing well again
 

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Think squad depth is the biggest reason Exeter and possibly Vale will both likely end up above us.

Apparently we’ve used the fewest players of any EFL club this season (19). Of those Allen, Diallo, McAteer & Young have been bit part players and up until Stevens injury the same applies to March who usually only ever got 10 minutes at the end of games. So basically we’ve relied on 14 or 15 players for most of the season, which is great for continuity when you’re winning games but also shows how reliant we are on a few key players to keep producing. Now the likes of Cadden, Wilson and Matt have hit the wall a bit/been nullified by a lot of teams and Stevens has got injured we really don’t have much cover or quality alternatives. The cover for our wing backs or Matt is pretty much non existent.

Luckily we’ve built up a cushion so should be ok for auto promotion as over the last 12 games we’ve been in bottom half form.
 

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Think squad depth is the biggest reason Exeter and possibly Vale will both likely end up above us.

Apparently we’ve used the fewest players of any EFL club this season (19). Of those Allen, Diallo, McAteer & Young have been bit part players and up until Stevens injury the same applies to March who usually only ever got 10 minutes at the end of games. So basically we’ve relied on 14 or 15 players for most of the season, which is great for continuity when you’re winning games but also shows how reliant we are on a few key players to keep producing. Now the likes of Cadden, Wilson and Matt have hit the wall a bit/been nullified by a lot of teams and Stevens has got injured we really don’t have much cover or quality alternatives. The cover for our wing backs or Matt is pretty much non existent.

Luckily we’ve built up a cushion so should be ok for auto promotion as over the last 12 games we’ve been in bottom half form.
just win on Monday (please) and you probably won't need another point all season - and still go up.
 

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Think squad depth is the biggest reason Exeter and possibly Vale will both likely end up above us.

Apparently we’ve used the fewest players of any EFL club this season (19). Of those Allen, Diallo, McAteer & Young have been bit part players and up until Stevens injury the same applies to March who usually only ever got 10 minutes at the end of games. So basically we’ve relied on 14 or 15 players for most of the season, which is great for continuity when you’re winning games but also shows how reliant we are on a few key players to keep producing. Now the likes of Cadden, Wilson and Matt have hit the wall a bit/been nullified by a lot of teams and Stevens has got injured we really don’t have much cover or quality alternatives. The cover for our wing backs or Matt is pretty much non existent.

Luckily we’ve built up a cushion so should be ok for auto promotion as over the last 12 games we’ve been in bottom half form.

I've still got FGR winning the league to be honest. I would definitely agree though that squad depth is the only reason we are in this position that we are in. To have lost almost all our key players at various points we've still managed to ride it out. DC has said in the past he doesn't believe in building XI's and is more interested in building a squad that can adapt and given some of our injuries this season its just as well.

It also helps that probably more than any other team we have goals from all over the pitch and not just reliant on one or two up top.
 

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I dont know about that. Wycombe are doing well again
Wycombe are the exception, not the rule IMO. It happens every now and then with clubs who have a good year and people use that club as an example of it being possible - which it is, but only once every few years.

And to think, we could have been one of those clubs if it wasn’t for GC going to Mansfield and replacing him with Garner ffs
 

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Knock knock whose there............Exeter who last got promoted in 1902
 

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Think squad depth is the biggest reason Exeter and possibly Vale will both likely end up above us.

Apparently we’ve used the fewest players of any EFL club this season (19). Of those Allen, Diallo, McAteer & Young have been bit part players and up until Stevens injury the same applies to March who usually only ever got 10 minutes at the end of games. So basically we’ve relied on 14 or 15 players for most of the season, which is great for continuity when you’re winning games but also shows how reliant we are on a few key players to keep producing. Now the likes of Cadden, Wilson and Matt have hit the wall a bit/been nullified by a lot of teams and Stevens has got injured we really don’t have much cover or quality alternatives. The cover for our wing backs or Matt is pretty much non existent.

Luckily we’ve built up a cushion so should be ok for auto promotion as over the last 12 games we’ve been in bottom half form.
19 players suggests to me you've been lucky with injuries. I dont think we have an ever present, at some stage all of our players have been injured or out with covid. Nombe has missed half a season, Stubbs has only played since January, we have lost Taylor and Kite for the season.

You have two of the three nominees for player of the season, and other good players like JMT and Matt, I'm sure you'll be fine
 

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Our squad has had remarkable resilience and flexibility, even yesterday we were forced to play a 19 year old loan striker at right wing back. If we get promoted we will have done a phenomenal job considering we lost our two main strikers for 2 and 3 months respectively at the same time, at one point lost our whole strike force and wingers at Bristol Rovers and Newport and ended up playing a box to box midfielder as a lone striker (more stunningly he scored three in those two!!)

We’ve lost Conlon widely considered our best player for the second half of the season and lost Gibbons who’s arguably one of the best full backs at this level on and off for months.

We even managed to knock a league one side out away from home with two wingers up top!

Last year injuries killed us, worryingly we’ve had them again this season and the training pitch etc is being looked at but the difference has been we’ve had the squad to cope rather than relying on crap like Danny Whitehead, Zak Mills and Theo Robinson to do us a job.

If we’d had better luck with them though we’d be virtually up now I’m sure of that but it’s part and parcel of the game.
 

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Hello sweetcheeks. More promotions in the last 20 years than Bolton, will look forward to slumming it at your place next season
Bring your Carpet slippers and your new Camera......Stand at the front of the stadium and take in the surroundings
 

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C’mon guys, we’ve all had injuries - well apart from FGR that is ;)

It’s all ifs and buts really. We are where we are for a reason.
 

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19 players suggests to me you've been lucky with injuries. I dont think we have an ever present, at some stage all of our players have been injured or out with covid. Nombe has missed half a season, Stubbs has only played since January, we have lost Taylor and Kite for the season.

You have two of the three nominees for player of the season, and other good players like JMT and Matt, I'm sure you'll be fine

Absolutely that’s what I was saying, we have a good side but virtually no depth.

We’ve been very lucky with injuries, but even with that it’s difficult to expect the same players playing exactly the same 3-4-1-2 tactics week after week to keep being able to do it all season without losing form or other teams working out how to stop us.

At one point we were something like 10 points clear of second with a game in hand, about 15 ahead of you. Now we’re struggling to hold on to top spot and if we don’t beat Oldham look unlike to win the title. That’s quite a drop off in form by anyone’s standards, and imo is down to our lack of options beyond our first choice team.
 
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not in a league game you have not....Then the is the Stadium of light, Hillsborough Portman Road.........Pride Park

Enjoy the year and take it all in
Done Hillsborough and Elland Road in the league. Carrow Road was pretty good too.
 

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From the site Probs4, with 2nd place cleared to show 1st place more clearly, now 36.8% to be champions, was 0.5% (1 in 200) at end of January.

So to be champions we need to gain 3 more points than FGR (or 2 pts & large goal diff swing = unlikley), the chart conveys this as points to percentage, so 6 more points gives 8% chance of being, champions, full 15 from 5 games gives 96%, 9 points is closest to 50/50 (47%)
 
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From probs4 with 2nd place cleared to show 1st place more clearly, now 36.8% to be champions, was 0.5% (1 in 200) at end of January.

So to be champions we need to gain 3 more points than FGR (or 2 pts & large goal diff swing = unlikley) conveys this as points to percentage, so 6 more points gives 8% chance of being, champions, full 15 from 5 games gives 96%, 9 points is closest to 50/50 (47%)
I've read that three times and cant make head nor tale of it!
 

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