Promotion Thread

[BeesKnees]

As I understand it we have formal agreement of a 10 year lease change which is the minimum required for acceptance into the football league, but this change will only be implemented if we win promotion. Otherwise it would be for less than 10 years by the time it's needed.

It was approved at a full council meeting so is now down to the council officers to agree the conditions attached to the lease change have been met ( residence parking for the area around the entrance). The football league seem happy with this arrangement.

 

[slaphead]

The main worry would be when does this have to be in place to satisfy the league? It might not necessarily be the end of the season, this date could quite easily have passed already! I doubt it has, just these things always remind me of the joke situation we found ourselves in all them years ago being refused entry because the deadline for ground improvements was the end of January, 4 months before the end of the season, never mind the start of the following season!

The league application and ground standards have to be complete by the end of January, though from memory Barnet's issue is one of planning so nothing to do with the FL. All I believe they require is a minimum 10 year as lease as preferred tenant if you don't own the ground.

 

[Chris FGR]

Ourselves, Woking and Eastleigh are the only contenders not to have recently been in the league, and imo all should meet the criteria thanks to basically having one good stand.

I believe our ground passes the FL grading, it certainly passed the first time we applied in 2008 and I can't imagine much has changed. Things like a police control room and cctv will need to be in place, both of which should be fairly easy to sort out.

 

[slaphead]

Ourselves, Woking and Eastleigh are the only contenders not to have recently been in the league, and imo all should meet the criteria thanks to basically having one good stand.

I believe our ground passes the FL grading, it certainly passed the first time we applied in 2008 and I can't imagine much has changed. Things like a police control room and cctv will need to be in place, both of which should be fairly easy to sort out.

The only thing that changes this year is the floodlight grading, which is being upped by a considerable amount but I believe there will be 2 years grace to get it sorted. As it stands it's a current minimum capacity of 5500, of which 2000 has to be seats within 3 years of entering the league. CCTV and Police control need to be in place at the start of the season. There's lots of other things, like barriers being crush tested and adequate segregation etc, but they are easy (if expensive) to resolve.

 

[Cardsfan]

We had our application approved a few weeks ago I think. Would need the odd improvements like stronger barriers in the away end but other than that it should be fairly easy.

 

[Southern Shayman]

Ourselves, Woking and Eastleigh are the only contenders not to have recently been in the league, and imo all should meet the criteria thanks to basically having one good stand.

I believe our ground passes the FL grading, it certainly passed the first time we applied in 2008 and I can't imagine much has changed. Things like a police control room and cctv will need to be in place, both of which should be fairly easy to sort out.

Your ground is more than tidy enough for the FL. That one side is a bit naff but the other 3 are good enough. Eastleigh will just have promised to shit more money at it if it's not up to scratch

 

[Greenacres]

The only thing that changes this year is the floodlight grading, which is being upped by a considerable amount but I believe there will be 2 years grace to get it sorted. As it stands it's a current minimum capacity of 5500, of which 2000 has to be seats within 3 years of entering the league. CCTV and Police control need to be in place at the start of the season. There's lots of other things, like barriers being crush tested and adequate segregation etc, but they are easy (if expensive) to resolve.

I don't think our current capacity is over 5000, probably a little below that, although I think the original plans for the ground were pretty close to the figure you mentioned. I don't think it would be too difficult, given that one side of the ground is an open terrace that could probably be enlarged relatively easily, to increase the capacity. I'm not sure if the main stand has 2000 seats in it though, we originally had seats behind one goal but removed them when the home end was swapped. Segregation isn't generally a problem at all as there is no access between most of the stands, except in one corner where I think they let away fans sat in the end of the main stand onto the terrace to put up flags.

 

[Southern Shayman]

I don't think our current capacity is over 5000, probably a little below that, although I think the original plans for the ground were pretty close to the figure you mentioned. I don't think it would be too difficult, given that one side of the ground is an open terrace that could probably be enlarged relatively easily, to increase the capacity. I'm not sure if the main stand has 2000 seats in it though, we originally had seats behind one goal but removed them when the home end was swapped. Segregation isn't generally a problem at all as there is no access between most of the stands, except in one corner where I think they let away fans sat in the end of the main stand onto the terrace to put up flags.

Ah I thought I remembered being sat in what is now your home terrace for a game when we lost 2-0 back in 2008 ( I think). Thought I must have been going mad but makes sense now.

And ah fair enough, but it's tidy and would think given how modern it is - any changes would be pretty easy to implement.

 

[Luke Imp]

If Accrington, Dagenham and Morecambe got into the FL with their respective Stadiums at the time, then I can't see many having issues!

 

[Greenacres]

Ah I thought I remembered being sat in what is now your home terrace for a game when we lost 2-0 back in 2008 ( I think). Thought I must have been going mad but makes sense now.

And ah fair enough, but it's tidy and would think given how modern it is - any changes would be pretty easy to implement.

The ends changed some time ago, possibly at the start of last season, I think the idea was to have the players walking out past the home fans at the start of the game. Having watched one game from that stand, albeit before the seats were removed, I didn't think the view was that good and reckon it is probably far better from behind the goal at the other end. The ground is nearly eight years old, so pretty new when compared to some, and as you point out it shouldn't be too difficult to make the necessary changes. Only one issue, the season isn't over yet and as things stand we are a Conference team, so all of this isn't too important...yet!

 

[slaphead]

If Accrington, Dagenham and Morecambe got into the FL with their respective Stadiums at the time, then I can't see many having issues!

Accrington did have issues and were nearly thrown out over the number of seats and turnstile access. I remember talking to their groundsman up there about 3 years ago and he said just how close they came. FL are getting tighter on rules now, and it will become more difficult for clubs with sub-standard grounds to get in, but having been to all the grounds in this league now, the only ones who will really struggle to get certified are, in my opinion, Altrincham, Alfreton and Braintree. All the others won't be far away.

 

[BeesKnees]

Accrington did have issues and were nearly thrown out over the number of seats and turnstile access. I remember talking to their groundsman up there about 3 years ago and he said just how close they came. FL are getting tighter on rules now, and it will become more difficult for clubs with sub-standard grounds to get in, but having been to all the grounds in this league now, the only ones who will really struggle to get certified are, in my opinion, Altrincham, Alfreton and Braintree. All the others won't be far away.

The Nuneaton ground looked way off to me and I'm not sure how Dartford would change their ground. Why would Alty struggle?

 

[DarkSithLord]

The Nuneaton ground looked way off to me and I'm not sure how Dartford would change their ground. Why would Alty struggle?

What about Welling too?

 

[slaphead]

The Nuneaton ground looked way off to me and I'm not sure how Dartford would change their ground. Why would Alty struggle?

Dartfords is believe has been designed so it could meet league standards, or that's what they told me before. Alty for me has issues with the layout and how to get people in and out, plus the terraces are shallow and would have to be reprofiled, and as we found out, that's not easy. There's also not a lot of extra room to expand around the ground with the new clubhouse and houses at one end. I just can't see where you would get 2000 seats in there.

DSL, I totolly forgot about Welling! That shithole isn't even Conf South standard and should be condemned.

 

[Steve (alty)]

Dartfords is believe has been designed so it could meet league standards, or that's what they told me before. Alty for me has issues with the layout and how to get people in and out, plus the terraces are shallow and would have to be reprofiled, and as we found out, that's not easy. There's also not a lot of extra room to expand around the ground with the new clubhouse and houses at one end. I just can't see where you would get 2000 seats in there.

DSL, I totolly forgot about Welling! That shithole isn't even Conf South standard and should be condemned.

Really? That's strange as the ground was approved for the Football league back in about 2009 or 10 when we last applied. I believe the only things we would have had to sort out were a control room, and electronic turnstile counters.

 

[F Side Rat]

Unless something has changed at Alty I can't believe there are anywhere near 2,000 seats. Doubt there are even 1,300?

 

[Steve (alty)]

Unless something has changed at Alty I can't believe there are anywhere near 2,000 seats. Doubt there are even 1,300?

I guess I should have said approved for promotion. 1300 is about right - 1323 to be exact. The regulations say that we'd have to add 677 extra within 3 years. The grading authorities, must think this is possible without reducing the capacity below 5000 (currently 6085), as I believe we met the second requirement of the 3 levels.

 

[DarkSithLord]

Welcome to the forum.

I guess I should have said approved for promotion. 1300 is about right - 1323 to be exact. The regulations say that we'd have to add 677 extra within 3 years. The grading authorities, must think this is possible without reducing the capacity below 5000 (currently 6085), as I believe we met the second requirement of the 3 levels.

 

[Laika]

I wonder if we still have 2000 seats in our ground. I seem to recall that the few rows of seats in front of the standing fans at one end of the ground were added so that we met that requirement the last time that we went up and given how many of them have broken without being replaced we could easily now only have 1995 or something.

 

[Luke Imp]

I suspect Eastleigh only built the new stand to comply?

 

[Southern Shayman]

I've just put a fiver on Grimsby so who's it gonna be: Barnet or Bristol Rovers?

 

[slaphead]

Goddamn... assisting Woking and their playoff surge. What's the world coming to for fucks sake.

 

[Railway Blue]

I've just put a fiver on Grimsby so who's it gonna be: Barnet or Bristol Rovers?

I would say Bristol Rovers after yesterday. They're the biggest and best team in this league comfortably.

 

[rudebwoyben]

I would say Bristol Rovers after yesterday. They're the biggest and best team in this league comfortably.

I wouldn't expect you to say anything else!

 

[BlueBee]

Didn't Grimsby have this wrapped up last week? Oh....

 

[Southern Shayman]

I've just put a fiver on Grimsby so who's it gonna be: Barnet or Bristol Rovers?

Fuck's sake

 

[Bs14gas]

I've just put a fiver on Grimsby so who's it gonna be: Barnet or Bristol Rovers?

Stick a fiver on Barnet.

 

[Nansan]

The Codheads won't win it, they will bottle it in the play offs as usual as well

 

[Luke Imp]

Big goal for Grimsby, that. Lose and I think it'd have been PO's given that they would have been four points off and relying on Barnet to lose two of their final 4 (taking inferior GD into account, too).

 

[Urban]

Halifax, Kiddy and Gateshead aren't easy mate. Two of those have already taken points off us while Gateshead lost to us with our best performance of the season.

Long way to go.