Punk Rock

[les.gtfc]

Ahh, that explains why you didn't object to my "Mohican" reference in the picture thread!

Ha ha. I never actually had a mohican but I did get told off by my Mum for dying my hair green when I was 15,

 

[D B Disco]

 

[D B Disco]

 

[les.gtfc]

Maybe taking the thread slightly off-topic but I saw this band when they supported the Skids. Released in 1981 and described as post-punk, Scottish Band "Scars" released one fantastic album called "Author! Author!" and then promptly disappeared without trace. It was re-released on CD in 2007 including bonus tracks and it still gets a regular airing now. This is probably one of their best tracks.

 

[D B Disco]

I love how Punk is so diverse..............

Here is a great track, that serves as a warning to anyone that makes work the b and end all of everything.

 

[Tilbury]

Discovered this a few days ago, love it already.

 

[D B Disco]

Discovered this a few days ago, love it already.

Enjoyed that, thanks.

 

[D B Disco]

Again, I just love the diversity of Punk.

 

[D B Disco]

When Punk does Reggae.............

 

[D B Disco]

And this one by Stiff Little Fingers..........

 

[Tilbury]

 

[Vanni]

Can't have a punk thread without the finest angriest 6 mins ever put on record.

 

[Tilbury]

So good.

 

[D B Disco]

Credited as being the "first" punk single, so really should be in this thread.

 

[Aber gas]

Credited as being the "first" punk single, so really should be in this thread.

This has had some fierce and usually drunken debates between my friends over the years . Some go with this but I've heard arguments for the ramones, suicide , the New York dolls even fucking blondie over the years .

 

[D B Disco]

This has had some fierce and usually drunken debates between my friends over the years . Some go with this but I've heard arguments for the ramones, suicide , the New York dolls even fucking blondie over the years .

For me, Punk originated in the UK. The American bands were (rightly or wrongly) labelled as being punk after the genre was given a name.

 

[Aber gas]

For me, Punk originated in the UK. The American bands were (rightly or wrongly) labelled as being punk after the genre was given a name.

I'm with you on this, I'm sure there was a degree of influence from the U.S. but I agree with you that punk started here .

 

[Pliny Harris]

For me, Punk originated in the UK. The American bands were (rightly or wrongly) labelled as being punk after the genre was given a name.

It's a properly good discussion, but to me I was highly convinced that punk, in spirit at least, originated in the USA and in particular New York City.

I've was basically indoctrinated when I first heard this recording:

In other words, strange inter-war folk acts were picked up by sinister garage acts and weird art students, which began to centre around CBGBs and all that in the mid-'70s.

I'm happy enough to call the Stooges the first properly punk sounding band, and the Ramones to me were straight up punk from their very first gig.

As for the punk label itself, I remember once hearing that it came from "punks" being, not to mince my words I guess, American prisoners who would willingly perform oral sex on each other. Could be utter nonsense.

As I said, very good topic to discuss.

 

[D B Disco]

It's a properly good discussion, but to me I was highly convinced that punk, in spirit at least, originated in the USA and in particular New York City.

I've was basically indoctrinated when I first heard this recording:

In other words, strange inter-war folk acts were picked up by sinister garage acts and weird art students, which began to centre around CBGBs and all that in the mid-'70s.

I'm happy enough to call the Stooges the first properly punk sounding band, and the Ramones to me were straight up punk from their very first gig.

As for the punk label itself, I remember once hearing that it came from "punks" being, not to mince my words I guess, American prisoners who would willingly perform oral sex on each other. Could be utter nonsense.

As I said, very good topic to discuss.

Good points.

I don't really think you can have a "black & White" answer as such. In my opinion, Punk is all about attitude and beliefs rather than style/dress, or even to a degree music. On that basis you could argue that bands like the Who could be classed as "punk", and it would certainly support your argument about the American 70's scene. However, although influenced by bands such as the New York Dolls, I think Punk as a phenomenon definitely originated here in the UK.

 

[D B Disco]

New DIRT BOX DISCO album "only in it for the money" released yesterday.

Got it on pre-release and it's another great album from the band.

Nothing on Youtube yet so can't upload anything here, but here is a link to the media section of their website which has one of the tracks "day after tomorrow" on it................check it out!

http://www.dirtboxdisco.co.uk/media.html

 

[Habbinalan]

Most memorable gigs were:

1) Dead Kennedys at West Runton Pavillion, supporting/supported by Steve Harley;
2) Ruts at Cambridge Corn Exchange;
3) Ramones at Cambridge Corn Exchange.

Ramones were loud but Ruts were ear bleeding loud.

 

[Habbinalan]

Good points.

I don't really think you can have a "black & White" answer as such. In my opinion, Punk is all about attitude and beliefs rather than style/dress, or even to a degree music. On that basis you could argue that bands like the Who could be classed as "punk", and it would certainly support your argument about the American 70's scene. However, although influenced by bands such as the New York Dolls, I think Punk as a phenomenon definitely originated here in the UK.

One of my earlier "punk" albums is the New Wave sampler on Vertigo. It came out in 1977 but features tracks from earlier albums such as New York Dolls 1973, Patti Smith 1974 and, off course, Ramones 1976. It triggered an interest in the Damned and Talking Heads but I never took to the Boomtown Rats.

The Ramones were the band that hit the spot and were an epiphany for both me and my mate Mick (different ends of the county at that stage) in early 1976. We discovered that they got us both separately listening to and buying new releases again after many years looking back. Thank you John Peel.

 

[D B Disco]

Listened to this for the first time in a while this morning........forgot just what a great track it is.

 

[Ninety Per Cent]

Good thread this. Went to see Rancid at Mandela Halls in Belfast 3 years ago, with a decent support act Running Riot(unfortunately the Lead Singer Colin passed away last year). Hopefully they'll come back for a gig in the UK again soon.

 

[Vanni]

Probably my favourite anarcho-punk record

 

[Vanni]

Another one of my faves is this one by The Mob, though I don't really know why they were always classified as 'anarcho punk'.

I like these guys a lot too. Their Onward Christian Soldiers LP is an anarcho classic in my book

 

[D B Disco]

Another one of my faves is this one by The Mob, though I don't really know why they were always classified as 'anarcho punk'.

I like these guys a lot too. Their Onward Christian Soldiers LP is an anarcho classic in my book

Hmmm......I've got that Mob album at home, I seem to remember that I played it when I bought it, didn't take to it and haven't played it since. Seeing as that is 30 years plus ago now, maybe I should dig it out and give it another listen!!

I must admit that whilst I like pretty much every Genre of Punk music, I always struggled to like the more "hardcore/thrash" type of music......Exploited/Crass/Conflict/Chaos UK etc. There were a couple of this type of band that I thought were OK though as I felt they offered just a little bit more....One Way System/GBH/English Dogs.

 

[Pliny Harris]

First heard this song as played by the Vivian Girls on a demo. Eventually realised it was a Wipers song and taken from their album Is This Real?, but I'd bought that LP a few years prior and it wasn't on for some reason. Then it was also covered at some point by Nation of Ulysses. All three versions are killer but I think the Nation of Ulysses version just about wins out. 84 amazing melancholy seconds.

Could you tell me something without saying a word
Touch me once without being too observed
Could you give me something without giving a blink
Telepathic affair

 

[Vanni]

First heard this song as played by the Vivian Girls on a demo. Eventually realised it was a Wipers song and taken from their album Is This Real?, but I'd bought that LP a few years prior and it wasn't on for some reason. Then it was also covered at some point by Nation of Ulysses. All three versions are killer but I think the Nation of Ulysses version just about wins out. 84 amazing melancholy seconds.

Could you tell me something without saying a word
Touch me once without being too observed
Could you give me something without giving a blink
Telepathic affair

Too commercial/poppy for my liking, though I'm not saying it's a bad song or anything. I had heard of Nation Of Ulysses before, but didn't know anything about them at all until I read Dance of Days, Two Decades of Punk in the Nation's Capital by Mark Anderson. Got it from some car boot seller, and only because it was like a quid or something Good read but nothing exciting, and of course it doesn't deal with some of my fav US bands like DK'S and Bad Religion. However, at least, there's loads on Minor T/Fugazi and Bad Brains.

Ps - Why do you have a pic of UTS(aka Calvin) as your avatar?

 

[Vanni]

Hmmm......I've got that Mob album at home, I seem to remember that I played it when I bought it, didn't take to it and haven't played it since. Seeing as that is 30 years plus ago now, maybe I should dig it out and give it another listen!!

I must admit that whilst I like pretty much every Genre of Punk music, I always struggled to like the more "hardcore/thrash" type of music......Exploited/Crass/Conflict/Chaos UK etc. There were a couple of this type of band that I thought were OK though as I felt they offered just a little bit more....One Way System/GBH/English Dogs.

Yeah give it another listen DB! Unlike you I'm more into the harder side of punk, and The Mob certainly aren't loud or fast, but it's such a great album that deserves your time! As for some of the other bands you mentioned, I don't like Chaos UK as I consider their 'music' as just a noisy racket. Also, got no time at all for The Exploited as, while I don't mind the music, I think there are far too many references to sex, drugs and violence in their songs. OTOH, really admire Crass and Conflict and what they stand/stood for.

I'm with you re. GBH, one hell of a band. English Dogs were decent until they switched to metal, and if there's one thing I really can't stand is when punk bands turn into metal ones!