Relegation Thread 2017/18

[LongEatonPie]

This forum never fails to teach me things. I can’t think of another site I use where I have to look up the meaning of words

Flotsam and Jetsam!!

 

[Luke Imp]

I don't see the conference as the trap door to oblivion that it once was. There are a lot of big clubs down there and the standard from what I can see looks On par with league two.
When we was non league it was wank. Really bad pitches and semi pro teams, Despite what some of our sentimental fanbase says, reminiscing over local derbys with Tamworth rather than derby and villa like we now have.

Not really lots of big clubs. Tranmere, Wrexham and Orient are the big clubs who'd still be big in the FL. In the tier below are your Macclesfield, Aldershot, Dagenham, Torquay types who are small FL clubs or just above average NL ones and not ones you'd class as big.

There are still PT teams down there. Perhaps not in the true sense of the word i.e. two nights a week like in the NLN or NLS but still a fair share of clubs who offer 10 month contracts rather than 12.

Pitches are still shite in some cases and the facilities are shite in some cases. There are lots of clubs down there who'd have tonnes of work to do and have to spend some serious money to bring things in line with the FL. On the pitch, there might be a few more who class themselves at FT but off the pitch, things haven't caught up.

And the standard is no-where near FL.

True...
But you know - it's all but league 3 in name. It's just the stigma with dropping out of the league and been in the fa trophy rather than the league cup.
Vale may need to go down to go back up - get the club run right throughout. It's why I think Sunderland will go down again. Sometimes clubs just drop, until they get themselves in order, then come back better.

This, providing they manage to. Problem is, they'll always be a York or Stockport (or Torquay this season as it stands).

Or you end up like Wrexham and watch some get promoted, some get relegated, whilst you endure yet another season at NL level and seem completely stuck there.

 

[valefan16]

To be honest after the horror of the last 6 months of last season I thought relegation to league two would allow us to sort ourselves and win more games to improve the feeling at the club... and we've been even worse at this level than we were last season a level above! We were an Anthony De Freitas composure from staying up in injury time and at least fought in the end to survive which we haven't even done this time.

 

[Aber gas]

emotions aside....getting relegated to the conference can be a positive thing.....
you can be considered a big fish in a small pond for once....crowds will return...if successful....attracting better players..
you will win more matches than you've been used too...if it goes well.....
you will get rid of the flotsam and jetsam that have been bleeding the club dry.....
some may return at the first attempt....
others?????........

Not sure what all the fuss is about really. Piece of piss the conference.

 

[Posh Harry]

Not really lots of big clubs. Tranmere, Wrexham and Orient are the big clubs who'd still be big in the FL. In the tier below are your Macclesfield, Aldershot, Dagenham, Torquay types who are small FL clubs or just above average NL ones and not ones you'd class as big.

There are still PT teams down there. Perhaps not in the true sense of the word i.e. two nights a week like in the NLN or NLS but still a fair share of clubs who offer 10 month contracts rather than 12.

Pitches are still shite in some cases and the facilities are shite in some cases. There are lots of clubs down there who'd have tonnes of work to do and have to spend some serious money to bring things in line with the FL. On the pitch, there might be a few more who class themselves at FT but off the pitch, things haven't caught up.

And the standard is no-where near FL.


This, providing they manage to. Problem is, they'll always be a York or Stockport (or Torquay this season as it stands).

Or you end up like Wrexham and watch some get promoted, some get relegated, whilst you endure yet another season at NL level and seem completely stuck there.

Don't forget Hartlepools Luke. They are a MASSIVE club. At least thats what a couple of their goons came onto the fishy to tell us early season after they had signed a couple of our better players and beaten us 3-0.

Not sure how that eventually panned out for them though

 

[Chris FGR]

Pitches are still shite in some cases and the facilities are shite in some cases. There are lots of clubs down there who'd have tonnes of work to do and have to spend some serious money to bring things in line with the FL. On the pitch, there might be a few more who class themselves at FT but off the pitch, things haven't caught up.

And the standard is no-where near FL.

This. Standard of the NL is utter shite compared to this level.

Watched some of a couple of NL games the other week, Tranmere v Orient and Wrexham v Eastleigh, full of shit mistakes going unpunished, most teams at this level would wipe the floor with any of those teams.

The step up is big, especially if you're a footballing side, make a mistake playing out from the back and you're much more likely to be punished. We've had to improve quickly to avoid being whipping boys, the way we played against Accrington and Notts would have detroyed most NL teams, but in this league it got us 1 point out of 6.

 

[Son of Cod]

This. Standard of the NL is utter shite compared to this level.

Watched some of a couple of NL games the other week, Tranmere v Orient and Wrexham v Eastleigh, full of shit mistakes going unpunished, most teams at this level would wipe the floor with any of those teams.

The step up is big, especially if you're a footballing side, make a mistake playing out from the back and you're much more likely to be punished. We've had to improve quickly to avoid being whipping boys, the way we played against Accrington and Notts would have detroyed most NL teams, but in this league it got us 1 point out of 6.

Play it out from the back? What is this strange method you speak of? Why would you do this when you can get Russell Slade in and hoof your way to 14th?

 

[Chief Rocka]

Don't forget Hartlepools Luke. They are a MASSIVE club. At least thats what a couple of their goons came onto the fishy to tell us early season after they had signed a couple of our better players and beaten us 3-0.

Not sure how that eventually panned out for them though

I mean don't let the ramblings of a few simpletons cement your viewpoint on Pools buddy, Amond and Toto joined us for more money and then binned us off for more money, they way it goes, it's often the anonymous gobshites who have the most to say for themselves

Most of us do consider ourselves to be a proper football league team, small but well supported (close to 100 years FL status) it's now up to the players and staff to get us back to our rightful place of 22nd in League 2.

 

[Si Robin]

Not sure what all the fuss is about really. Piece of piss the conference.

Can't argue with this - even we've pissed it the last two times we played in it.

 

[AdamStag]

Whereas its no go a FGR fans, it must suck for Dale Vince - throwing ridiculous money and wages at many failed promotion attempts to then gain 6 points from 12 games

 

[ShrimpsMeltdown]

Big month for us, playing teams around us so we need to start picking up points. Our usual alright away record has disappeared into dust so we're now reliant on our home record.....which every season is shocking.

We are pretty turd.

 

[rudebwoyben]

Can't argue with this - even we've pissed it the last two times we played in it.

Yeah, what on earth is the fuss about the difficulty of getting promoted out of the National League? I don't see it myself!

 

[GTFCfish]

Yeah, what on earth is the fuss about the difficulty of getting promoted out of the National League? I don't see it myself!

The way you guys were imploding in 2015 towards the end of the season I think had there been another 3 or 4 games to play that season you would still be down there now to be honest.

 

[rudebwoyben]

The way you guys were imploding in 2015 towards the end of the season I think had there been another 3 or 4 games to play that season you would still be down there now to be honest.

That's a funny way of looking at it. Our form was actually very good towards the end of the season, unbeaten in our final 9 matches of the season. If we had managed to hold on for the wins at Alfreton and Halifax it would have been a lot more comfortable and on another day we would have won at Kiddy too. It didn't help that Bristol Rovers' form was excellent too.

 

[GTFCfish]

That's a funny way of looking at it. Our form was actually very good towards the end of the season, unbeaten in our final 9 matches of the season. If we had managed to hold on for the wins at Alfreton and Halifax it would have been a lot more comfortable and on another day we would have won at Kiddy too. It didn't help that Bristol Rovers' form was excellent too.

Ahh right my memory was that you were pretty much collapsing towards the end, I guess it was a bit earlier that you had your wobble and then recovered again towards the end. At one point I thought we were gonna catch you when we got to within 1 point, think we won 8 out of 9 games or something but then we messed up v Gateshead.

 

[rudebwoyben]

Ahh right my memory was that you were pretty much collapsing towards the end, I guess it was a bit earlier that you had your wobble and then recovered again towards the end. At one point I thought we were gonna catch you when we got to within 1 point, think we won 8 out of 9 games or something but then we messed up v Gateshead.

That's right. Our wobble was just before when we lost to you lot and then FGR at home. I wouldn't have fancied our chances against you in the play-offs whereas I would have been totally confident of us besting FGR and Eastleigh.

 

[Laker]

The Conference isn't as good as League 2, the main differences being the pace of the game and mistakes being punished. We noticed it when we came up and had to change the bulk of our team in our second season to reach mid table.

The thought of non league is horrendous though. If he off field position is bad (as ours was) then it can be a nightmare to get out of - we had 3 years in the plays offs, a couple of mid table positions and a couple of close calls with relegation. It's a pig frankly and I hated it!

 

[Aber gas]

That's a funny way of looking at it. Our form was actually very good towards the end of the season, unbeaten in our final 9 matches of the season. If we had managed to hold on for the wins at Alfreton and Halifax it would have been a lot more comfortable and on another day we would have won at Kiddy too. It didn't help that Bristol Rovers' form was excellent too.

I still hate Ricky Modeste.

 

[Luke Imp]

He still dives.

 

[GTFCfish]

That's right. Our wobble was just before when we lost to you lot and then FGR at home. I wouldn't have fancied our chances against you in the play-offs whereas I would have been totally confident of us besting FGR and Eastleigh.

Yeah nothing against Barnet but I was hoping Rovers would win the title as I thought we could beat Barnet in the play offs after doing the double in the season but I didn't fancy our chances of beating Rovers, even though in the final we really should have done em.

 

[rudebwoyben]

Yeah nothing against Barnet but I was hoping Rovers would win the title as I thought we could beat Barnet in the play offs after doing the double in the season but I didn't fancy our chances of beating Rovers, even though in the final we really should have done em.

I went to the final and I thought that there was nothing between the two sides. However, if Puddy had been sent as perhaps he ought to have been during Grimsby's period of ascendancy in the first half, I think Grimsby would have won it in normal time.

 

[GTFCfish]

I went to the final and I thought that there was nothing between the two sides. However, if Puddy had been sent as perhaps he ought to have been during Grimsby's period of ascendancy in the first half, I think Grimsby would have won it in normal time.

Yeah I think so too but then when Taylor went down after going past McKeown at 1-1 from where I was sat it looked a nailed on red and penalty (even though i later saw it was a dive) and at that moment I thought it was gonna be all over so suppose it could have gone that way too. Soon as it went to pens though, I just knew........

 

[SpireLine]

We're up shit creek without a boat, never mind a paddle.....

 

[GTFCfish]

Staggered that were not even involved in this (yet) as a lot of our performances have been like today, completely abject.

 

[Laker]

Staggered that were not even involved in this (yet) as a lot of our performances have been like today, completely abject.

Forest Green, Chesterfield and Port Vale being crap is making a few of us feel more comfortable than we ordinarily would. Wait to see the cat among the pigeons when they change manager and get going - there's gonna be a lot of clubs looking over their shoulders.

 

[valefan16]

Forest Green, Chesterfield and Port Vale being crap is making a few of us feel more comfortable than we ordinarily would. Wait to see the cat among the pigeons when they change manager and get going - there's gonna be a lot of clubs looking over their shoulders.

Hopefully Aspin allows us to do that, win Tuesday and we will be two off Morecambe and potentially one off Barnet.

 

[Roger Stone]

We're up shit creek without a boat, never mind a paddle.....

Long way to go pal. Took us until game 29 on 10 Feb last season to reach the same points we have now and we stayed up.

 

[Urban]

Checking in

 

[Buxton Vale]

It looks like the turnaround has begun. We just need to pick up enough points between now and January to keep us out of trouble.

 

[valefan16]

It looks like the turnaround has begun. We just need to pick up enough points between now and January to keep us out of trouble.

That’s the remit really, keep in touch until January when Aspo gets to bring in his own players. I’d trust his recruitment with Rudge more than any recent manager. Discovered Vardy and Gregory and Rudge well the list is endless...