Relegation Thread 2017/18

[The Jovial Forester]

Wtf is the Vase? Is That like the tinpot version of the FA Trophy or is it the other way around?

FA Vase, replaced the amateur cup when even some side really low down the pyramid were paying a bit.
ETA Just looked it up and it's for Step 4 and below

 

[Luke Imp]

Vase is like the JPT i.e. for the lower league sides of the NL pyramid.

 

[shoddycollins]

We featured in the short-lived Conference Cup... beat Runcorn 6-1 I think it was, in Widnes' rugby league ground... Andy Preece scored 4.

 

[rudebwoyben]

Wtf is the Vase? Is That like the tinpot version of the FA Trophy or is it the other way around?

It’s an FA competition for non-league clubs below step 4 of the non-league pyramid, so hopefully you won’t ever have to worry about tit!

 

[AdamStag]

Wtf is the Vase? Is That like the tinpot version of the FA Trophy or is it the other way around?

So round your neck of the woods the fa trophy would be conference, conference north, Evo stick premier and Evo stick div 1

The vase is leagues below that

 

[Soup Ladle]

This thread reads like a shrink's advice page for fans paranoid about the biggest drop in the pyramid, shit scared about playing in the trophy and wondering what the fuck a vase is.

I've never been inside but I imagine being non league as something like an indeterminate prison term. You've been sent down because someone framed you (dodgy owners) or you were just guilty as charged of being shit and you deserved your comeuppance. Pools and Orient have received no indication how long their sentence will be but first year of prison life has been traumatic.

The first group of convicts I'll talk about is clearly the best option. This is to sort yourself out, respect the other inmates who are smaller in reputation but more volatile, have been in the system a long time, know how to play the system and are out to get you, but you keep your head down, don't piss anyone off and come out a better person. You'll be out in 9 months (Carlisle, Rovers, Shrewsbury).

Second group, you've been there before, know the score and get released and stay paroled until you re-offend (Cheltenham, Barnet,).

Third group, you go round acting like the big man, spend fuck loads of time there, get beaten up by some small timers and maybe worse but eventually keep your head down, take the punishment and get released after a number of years (Lincoln, Luton, Oxford, Mansfield, Exeter, Grimsby, Cambridge). Or you just crack up, not handling being inside and implode, get sent to segregation or mental hospital and have to press the reset button on your life (Darlo, Stockport, York, Halifax at a tinpot push).

Fourth group, you've obviously really pissed off the screws, the other inmates, living in segregation for snitching, no one likes you, you send letters to family and friends about the natural order, you fail parole hearing after hearing and you're still there after 10 years. You claim it's unfair (Wrexham).

Whatever group your club fits in, there are lots of challenges being there. Playing in the Trophy is one of them and is an enforced form of hard labour. You don't want to do it but you know if you complete the course, it might help you get released quicker. The vase is something you keep flowers in.

 

[AdamStag]

This thread reads like a shrink's advice page for fans paranoid about the biggest drop in the pyramid, shit scared about playing in the trophy and wondering what the fuck a vase is.

I've never been inside but I imagine being non league as something like an indeterminate prison term. You've been sent down because someone framed you (dodgy owners) or you were just guilty as charged of being shit and you deserved your comeuppance. Pools and Orient have received no indication how long their sentence will be but first year of prison life has been traumatic.

The first group of convicts I'll talk about is clearly the best option. This is to sort yourself out, respect the other inmates who are smaller in reputation but more volatile, have been in the system a long time, know how to play the system and are out to get you, but you keep your head down, don't piss anyone off and come out a better person. You'll be out in 9 months (Carlisle, Rovers, Shrewsbury).

Second group, you've been there before, know the score and get released and stay paroled until you re-offend (Cheltenham, Barnet,).

Third group, you go round acting like the big man, spend fuck loads of time there, get beaten up by some small timers and maybe worse but eventually keep your head down, take the punishment and get released after a number of years (Lincoln, Luton, Oxford, Mansfield, Exeter, Grimsby, Cambridge). Or you just crack up, not handling being inside and implode, get sent to segregation or mental hospital and have to press the reset button on your life (Darlo, Stockport, York, Halifax at a tinpot push).

Fourth group, you've obviously really pissed off the screws, the other inmates, living in segregation for snitching, no one likes you, you send letters to family and friends about the natural order, you fail parole hearing after hearing and you're still there after 10 years. You claim it's unfair (Wrexham).

Whatever group your club fits in, there are lots of challenges being there. Playing in the Trophy is one of them and is an enforced form of hard labour. You don't want to do it but you know if you complete the course, it might help you get released quicker. The vase is something you keep flowers in.

Haha that's a cracker.

The best one for me is I spent a day gettng the name wrong of the opposition. On the belief we were playing yeading and Hayes, it turned out to be Hayes and yeading - some random place down south that no-one in mansfield had ever heard of.

 

[Impish]

This thread reads like a shrink's advice page for fans paranoid about the biggest drop in the pyramid, shit scared about playing in the trophy and wondering what the fuck a vase is.

I've never been inside but I imagine being non league as something like an indeterminate prison term. You've been sent down because someone framed you (dodgy owners) or you were just guilty as charged of being shit and you deserved your comeuppance. Pools and Orient have received no indication how long their sentence will be but first year of prison life has been traumatic.

The first group of convicts I'll talk about is clearly the best option. This is to sort yourself out, respect the other inmates who are smaller in reputation but more volatile, have been in the system a long time, know how to play the system and are out to get you, but you keep your head down, don't piss anyone off and come out a better person. You'll be out in 9 months (Carlisle, Rovers, Shrewsbury).

Second group, you've been there before, know the score and get released and stay paroled until you re-offend (Cheltenham, Barnet,).

Third group, you go round acting like the big man, spend fuck loads of time there, get beaten up by some small timers and maybe worse but eventually keep your head down, take the punishment and get released after a number of years (Lincoln, Luton, Oxford, Mansfield, Exeter, Grimsby, Cambridge). Or you just crack up, not handling being inside and implode, get sent to segregation or mental hospital and have to press the reset button on your life (Darlo, Stockport, York, Halifax at a tinpot push).

Fourth group, you've obviously really pissed off the screws, the other inmates, living in segregation for snitching, no one likes you, you send letters to family and friends about the natural order, you fail parole hearing after hearing and you're still there after 10 years. You claim it's unfair (Wrexham).

Whatever group your club fits in, there are lots of challenges being there. Playing in the Trophy is one of them and is an enforced form of hard labour. You don't want to do it but you know if you complete the course, it might help you get released quicker. The vase is something you keep flowers in.

Superb monkey hanger!

 

[GTFCfish]

This thread reads like a shrink's advice page for fans paranoid about the biggest drop in the pyramid, shit scared about playing in the trophy and wondering what the fuck a vase is.

I've never been inside but I imagine being non league as something like an indeterminate prison term. You've been sent down because someone framed you (dodgy owners) or you were just guilty as charged of being shit and you deserved your comeuppance. Pools and Orient have received no indication how long their sentence will be but first year of prison life has been traumatic.

The first group of convicts I'll talk about is clearly the best option. This is to sort yourself out, respect the other inmates who are smaller in reputation but more volatile, have been in the system a long time, know how to play the system and are out to get you, but you keep your head down, don't piss anyone off and come out a better person. You'll be out in 9 months (Carlisle, Rovers, Shrewsbury).

Second group, you've been there before, know the score and get released and stay paroled until you re-offend (Cheltenham, Barnet,).

Third group, you go round acting like the big man, spend fuck loads of time there, get beaten up by some small timers and maybe worse but eventually keep your head down, take the punishment and get released after a number of years (Lincoln, Luton, Oxford, Mansfield, Exeter, Grimsby, Cambridge). Or you just crack up, not handling being inside and implode, get sent to segregation or mental hospital and have to press the reset button on your life (Darlo, Stockport, York, Halifax at a tinpot push).

Fourth group, you've obviously really pissed off the screws, the other inmates, living in segregation for snitching, no one likes you, you send letters to family and friends about the natural order, you fail parole hearing after hearing and you're still there after 10 years. You claim it's unfair (Wrexham).

Whatever group your club fits in, there are lots of challenges being there. Playing in the Trophy is one of them and is an enforced form of hard labour. You don't want to do it but you know if you complete the course, it might help you get released quicker. The vase is something you keep flowers in.

On the contrary you get the odd team who finds it so endearing down there that they fancy another crack at it.........

 

[GTFCfish]

We featured in the short-lived Conference Cup... beat Runcorn 6-1 I think it was, in Widnes' rugby league ground... Andy Preece scored 4.

Do you still have the half and half scarf from it?

 

[Greenacres]

I love analogies and that post from Soup Ladle is one of the best I have seen on this forum, if not any footy forum, think it sums up the situation perfectly.

Hopefully we (FGR) won't be adding another category, of those released on licence but called back after a short time on the outside for failing to keep up appointments with their parole officer, or some other minor misdemeanor.

 

[Greenacres]

The best one for me is I spent a day gettng the name wrong of the opposition. On the belief we were playing yeading and Hayes, it turned out to be Hayes and yeading - some random place down south that no-one in mansfield had ever heard of.

Weren't they originally two teams that merged and decided to play their home games at Woking, rather than in either Hayes or Yeading?

I went to watch us play them at Woking, which is a pretty decent ground, but there were less than 300 of us present. It was around the time that Dale Vince became involved in the club but we were still in a real struggle on and off the pitch. I think we lost and the end of the game was capped by the unedifying sight of one of our fans trying to have a fight with the then manager, Dave Hockaday, until a number of people intervened and dragged him away.

 

[rudebwoyben]

Yeah Hayes and Yeading merged. Hayes have actually quite a long and distinguished history in non-league football. I think their new ground has finally been finished but they’re at step 4 now.

 

[Indian Dan]

Just like MK and Dons

 

[shoddycollins]

Do you still have the half and half scarf from it?

Sadly I was unable to get my hands on one and they totally underestimated the demand for them, sure I saw Usain Bolt wearing one of them during the London Olympics as a fashion statement.

 

[#Beebot]

The Hayes/Yeading situation is a mess. They've gone from two step 2 clubs and 2 grounds to one step 4 club and a very heavily delayed half finished ground in the space of 10 years.

I understood the logic behind their merger but it's been really poorly executed and a disaster for all concerned.

 

[shoddycollins]

Just like MK and Dons

All tinpot sides have an AND in them
Dagenham AND Redbridge
Rushden AND Diamonds
Wycombe W AND Erers
Crewe Alex AND Ra

 

[MrGloverLover]

Yeah Hayes and Yeading merged. Hayes have actually quite a long and distinguished history in non-league football. I think their new ground has finally been finished but they’re at step 4 now.

Hayes used to be our bogey team in the Conference, for some reaon we could never beat them even though we had a far better team. Bloody Bertrand Bossu.

 

[MrGloverLover]

Our game against FGR is off today which won't help either team. We will now have 8 games in 26 days.

 

[shoddycollins]

Our game against FGR is off today which won't help either team. We will now have 8 games in 26 days.

International duty again?

 

[MrGloverLover]

International duty again?

Yeah, Atlantis.

 

[Vanni]

Akinde PEN!!!

 

[Clarkey_GTFC]

Down and out.

 

[The Jovial Forester]

Could have done with a Vale- Chesterfield draw but otherwise not done too badly out of today.

 

[GTFCfish]

Despite gaining a point on Chesterfield today our inability to beat a terrible side at home who were there for the taking in front of a bigger than normal partisan crowd shows just why we will be relegated.
This was a must win, and we didn't and we nearly lost it to a team who were absolutely awful.
Hello National League.

 

[The Jovial Forester]

n front of a bigger than normal partisan crowd

Saw it was a good turnout - bank holiday effect or just hoping to will you over the line?

 

[Vanni]

Akinde PEN x 2

 

[Soup Ladle]

Despite gaining a point on Chesterfield today our inability to beat a terrible side at home who were there for the taking in front of a bigger than normal partisan crowd shows just why we will be relegated.
This was a must win, and we didn't and we nearly lost it to a team who were absolutely awful.
Hello National League.

I'll create a new group especially for Grimsby. Can't cope with life outside and do everything to get sent down again to see all their old mates and learn together how to become expertly tinpot. Just don't pull any bad shit or you'll be on the long term snitches and nonces wing with Wrexham.

 

[GTFCfish]

Saw it was a good turnout - bank holiday effect or just hoping to will you over the line?

Bank Holiday definitely swelled it plus there were a couple of offers on, kids free with an adult and for the previous home game v Port Vale if you bought an adult ticket you got a Stevenage one for free.

 

[Chris FGR]

Down and out.

Tbf in the 1 game form table you're doing ok, keep up that 1 point a game average for the next 6 and you'll be fine.

As everyone nose, I'm normally right about stuff and I don't think Grimsby will actually go down.