Relegation thread

[Vanni]

Am I or anyone else aloud to start a promotion thread yet?

You're always 'aloud' so I don't know what's stopping you Carver buddy

 

[Vanni]

Kee may be a fatty, but SVH is right in saying Legge struggled a bit, so that means either Kee is quite decent or else Legge had a bad day at the office.

 

[mowgli]

Am I or anyone else aloud to start a promotion thread yet?

If you want to start one in November then be prepared to be laughed at by fans of other League 2 clubs. Plymouth have fucked up the last 2 seasons after being top at Christmas with their fans claiming promotion from League 2 was assured. Because of your attitude to posters who support other teams when you cock up the rest of us will piss ourselves laughing when it goes tits up for Carlisle.

 

[shoddycollins]

If you want to start one in November then be prepared to be laughed at by fans of other League 2 clubs. Plymouth have fucked up the last 2 seasons after being top at Christmas with their fans claiming promotion from League 2 was assured. Because of your attitude to posters who support other teams when you cock up the rest of us will piss ourselves laughing when it goes tits up for Carlisle.

Thanks for that Mowgs... I'm blaming you now when he starts one with an opening post about how it's in the bag for us.

 

[mowgli]

Thanks for that Mowgs... I'm blaming you now when he starts one with an opening post about how it's in the bag for us.

And you know me mate i'll post my views in there if he does Why would anyone think their team will be promoted when we've not even reached the end of 2016? All you are doing is setting yourself up for ridicule making you look like a ****

 

[Carver]

If you want to start one in November then be prepared to be laughed at by fans of other League 2 clubs. Plymouth have fucked up the last 2 seasons after being top at Christmas with their fans claiming promotion from League 2 was assured. Because of your attitude to posters who support other teams when you cock up the rest of us will piss ourselves laughing when it goes tits up for Carlisle.

I wouldn't be stupid like them and say we'll get promoted, I am not that idiotic and never have been. I just thought that it was becoming obvious which clubs are most likely looking to be in the promotion mix as a gap is opening up with the top 5 in this league being more ahead and far superior to the rest of the league.

I think I'll wait a bit though, unless some other poster wants to start one up.

Oh and one more thing, if we do mess it up then at least I get to post in this wonderful L2 forum for another season!

 

[shoddycollins]

And you know me mate i'll post my views in there if he does Why would anyone think their team will be promoted when we've not even reached the end of 2016? All you are doing is setting yourself up for ridicule making you look like a ****

I think you're confusing the rest of us with Carver. I think given the gap now between the top three, the next two and then everyone else, it would be disappointing if we couldn't make automatic promotion and a calamity if we failed to make the play-offs.

 

[AdamStag]

Anyway we're going up as a champions

 

[Look Out There Are Llamas]

If you want to start one in November then be prepared to be laughed at by fans of other League 2 clubs. Plymouth have fucked up the last 2 seasons after being top at Christmas with their fans claiming promotion from League 2 was assured. Because of your attitude to posters who support other teams when you cock up the rest of us will piss ourselves laughing when it goes tits up for Carlisle.

Carlisle are a much better team than last season's Plymouth team. I will physically buy a hat and eat it if Carlisle fuck up.

 

[shoddycollins]

Carlisle are a much better team than last season's Plymouth team. I will physically buy a hat and eat it if Carlisle fuck up.

Our performances are inconsistent but we're finding ways to win, or at least get a draw in the games (in England) where we don't play well. The opinions of opposing fans tend to vary between 'best team we've faced this season' and 'nothing special, can't see them maintaining this run'. Our fans' views also vary between saying that winning when we don't play well is a sign of good things, and saying that regular poor performances will eventually catch up with us if we don't do something.

I think we'd feel a lot more comfortable if we were outplaying opponents comprehensively every match and winning with the minimum of fuss but who can do that in this division? It's not like the Premier League were the top teams can bring in players who are a class above anything anyone else can bring in, and even there that doesn't guarantee you'll walk over everyone else. Plymouth seem to have struggled when their performances dipped due to injury and suspension, but arguably we already had our dip with a string of poor performances at Newport and against Exeter, Stevenage and Hartlepool where we were not great. The difference is that when we hit a rocky spell we somehow managed to get 9 points from 12, I'd put that down mostly to Mark Gillespie getting us out of jail with a few important saves, and players like Danny Grainger and Jason Kennedy who can score against the run of play, as well as Nicky Adams who has a touch of magic that can turn a game around. Apparently we played well against Grimsby and we played very well in the second half against Mansfield.

That's just one assessment though, we haven't suffered from any injuries and you can't talk about dips as though they're some predictable thing that hits each team once per season and then you're in the clear, the majority of the work is still to come and me believing we've weathered a dip in performance already doesn't mean that we won't have another, or that Doncaster or Luton are certain to go on a poor run just because they haven't done so yet. I think we need to firstly stay in the top three until January, and then strengthen our squad to make sure that if something happens such as losing Adams or Joyce or Jones through injury we have a reasonable back-up.

 

[Carver]

Carlisle are a much better team than last season's Plymouth team. I will physically buy a hat and eat it if Carlisle fuck up.

Mowgli is just upset that my team is doing better than his, because I told him 2 seasons ago this would happen and he laughed at me. He just won't accept the fact that in the long run, we will always be a bigger and better club than dirty cheating Wycombe.

Oh and erm didn't Wycombe fuck up their chance of promotion back then? Yes they did! But unlike Mowgli would, I didn't mock a fan in despair. I just thought, no I don't have time for that. So I just left him alone.

 

[LongEatonPie]

Hi there

 

[SVH]

Billy Kee is a fatty. He needs to lose a couple of stone and gain a few yards. If Carlisle are (as they look to be,) going to get promoted Fat Boy Kee is not worth looking at.

Put it this way - I wouldnt have him in our side and we are shite.

Haha you would have Billy Kee in a heartbeat. Well, anyone at your club with sense would.

 

[AdamStag]

Haha you would have Billy Kee in a heartbeat. Well, anyone at your club with sense would.

He was poor for us, but done wonders for Accy since he rocked up there.

Though I suspect that was more down to Cox's mismanagement of him than anything

 

[Vanni]

He was poor for us, but done wonders for Accy since he rocked up there.

Though I suspect that was more down to Cox's mismanagement of him than anything

But he was only a loanee with you lot right? Tbh, I don't think rating players who are only on a loan spell is a good idea. Even PL players struggle sometimes when they're sent out on loan so I'd think L2 players, who generally tend to be far more inconsistent, will need a longer time to establish themselves at their new clubs. This is perhaps the major reason why I didn't agree with short term loans (less than 4 months) in the past.

 

[northstandexile]

He was poor for us, but done wonders for Accy since he rocked up there.

Though I suspect that was more down to Cox's mismanagement of him than anything

Kee was a Murray signing nothing to do with Paul Cox.

 

[SVH]

Anyways I've heard Kee if off to Luton in Jan.

 

[NolansOrient]

3 more defeats on the spin for the Orient...we are in such serious danger of facing the drop. I'm amazed we're not rock bottom and adrift by 2 or 3 points, shows how poor this league is to be honest.

I fear for us with Newport looking slightly rejuvenated under Westley, and Cheltenham just biding their time before they shoot up the table for their double promotion

Seriously though, we've lost 8 on the bounce at home in the league. Our next 3 home games are Accy, Crawley & Cambridge. Lose those 3 and its pretty much curtains already.

 

[AdamStag]

Kee was a Murray signing nothing to do with Paul Cox.

That's what I meant, oops

Obviously didn't put it down correctly!

 

[GTFCfish]

A gap is opening up with the top 5 in this league being more ahead and far superior to the rest of the league.

I wouldn't say that all 5 of those teams are far superior than the rest but certainly they all seem more consistent.
I only say that because so far we have played 3 of those 5 teams and taken 7 points from them and deservedly so as well, whereas we have dropped a lot of points to teams in the bottom half where I guess you 5 at the top have not done so as much hence the mini breakaway.
We play the other 2 of those 5 in our next 2 games so we will have to see where that leaves us, but from what I have seen Carlisle were certainly the best team we have faced so far and I expect the promotion that you crave to be fulfilled, but far superior, nah!

Edit: I guess being more consistent may well equate to being superior so maybe a rethink by me may be in order!

 

[Si Robin]

We've played all 5, lost two (one of which was a last minute winner seconds after we had hit the post) and only two of them really outplaying us (Carlisle got a point, but did everything but win, Donny were a class above us). Yet here we are in the relegation zone.

 

[WH_Stag]

We've played all 5, lost two (one of which was a last minute winner seconds after we had hit the post) and only two of them really outplaying us (Carlisle got a point, but did everything but win, Donny were a class above us). Yet here we are in the relegation zone.

Cheltenham are in the drop zone because they don't have a good enough squad... no league quality in it at all.

 

[Urban]

Cheltenham are in the drop zone because they don't have a good enough squad... no league quality in it at all.

But... but... Dan Holman? Gary Johnson?!?! Thought they were firing them to double promotions this season!

 

[Si Robin]

Cheltenham are in the drop zone because they don't have a good enough squad... no league quality in it at all.

Kind of missing the point, you seem to have some massive chip on your shoulder over Cheltenham, God knows why. We're the worst team ever to win the Conference according to you, and you have no doubt we're going down.

The point I was making that no team is particularly brilliant, we have done well against teams at the top of the division and been shocking against the teams near the bottom. We struggle to break down teams that load up the defence against us, but have been better overall against the teams that try to play football.

Do I think we have a great squad, not by a long shot. We're weak up front, especially when our best forward has been injured for all but two-three games, we have no width, and our midfield (which has been strong up to the last couple of games) seems to have dropped their shoulders. Our defence has been fine, but again, in the last couple of games they have made some pathetic decisions which have led to some preventable goals.

Do I think we'll go down, not at all. The loanees brought in during the summer, aside from Griffiths and Dickie, should be sent back and I expect at least 3 of the players who got us up last season (Morgan-Smith, Rowe and Barthram) to be moved on and, with a bit of luck, will be replaced by experienced Football League players. Gary Johnson is our biggest asset and January is a huge month for him and the club. We'll be fine, I genuinely believe that. There's still 27 games and 81 points to play for yet.

 

[Carver]

I wouldn't say that all 5 of those teams are far superior than the rest but certainly they all seem more consistent.
I only say that because so far we have played 3 of those 5 teams and taken 7 points from them and deservedly so as well, whereas we have dropped a lot of points to teams in the bottom half where I guess you 5 at the top have not done so as much hence the mini breakaway.
We play the other 2 of those 5 in our next 2 games so we will have to see where that leaves us, but from what I have seen Carlisle were certainly the best team we have faced so far and I expect the promotion that you crave to be fulfilled, but far superior, nah!

Edit: I guess being more consistent may well equate to being superior so maybe a rethink by me may be in order!

Okay maybe the term 'Far superior' was a bit over the top. Don't tell anyone, but it was just a wind up.

 

[hellogregory]

Has a club ever came up from the conference and gone straight back down? None spring to my mind...

I guess Cheltenham's struggles show that contrary to popular belief, there is a gulf between League 2 and the conference.

 

[rudebwoyben]

Has a club ever came up from the conference and gone straight back down? None spring to my mind...

I guess Cheltenham's struggles show that contrary to popular belief, there is a gulf between League 2 and the conference.

None so far, although a few have come close.

 

[shoddycollins]

Has a club ever came up from the conference and gone straight back down? None spring to my mind...

I guess Cheltenham's struggles show that contrary to popular belief, there is a gulf between League 2 and the conference.

I don't think Cheltenham's problems are as serious as they look, just given how tight it is, anyone in that 'regelation battle' can win a couple of games and suddenly be closer to the playoffs.

 

[WH_Stag]

I don't think Cheltenham's problems are as serious as they look, just given how tight it is, anyone in that 'regelation battle' can win a couple of games and suddenly be closer to the playoffs.

Ive seen cheltenham play a few times this year and their position isn't false. I think they could possibly go down but teams rarely go down that are at the bottom of this stage of the season. But look at the players they have, no league experience, if they get january wrong they will be in a fight.

 

[Carver]

Just look at the top 3 now 7/8 points clear of 4th place, you've got to kneel to us.