Relegation thread

[NolansOrient]

Beginning to think the relegation points total will be high this year. Wycombe had a perfectly good goal chalked off by a dozy ref, Newport gave us a good game and Hartlepool should have beaten us if they hadn't hit self destruct.
We've got lucky over the last 3 but I'm still expecting us to be in the bottom third unless we improve significantly.

I wouldn't worry too much mate, we're absolute nailed on certs to take one of the bottom 2 spots so there's only one place left.

 

[Vanni]

This Cavasin chap may have a lot of relegations on his CV, but I don't think you get to manage in the Serie A and Serie B if you're hopeless. However, he needs an English translator to help him out that's for sure.

As for the mighty U's, I'm sure we'll be in this thread all year long. I think we have enough quality to stay up, but like I've said before, I was saying the same thing back in 2005 too so I really don't know.

 

[NolansOrient]

This Cavasin chap may have a lot of relegations on his CV, but I don't think you get to manage in the Serie A and Serie B if you're hopeless. However, he needs an English translator to help him out that's for sure.

As for the mighty U's, I'm sure we'll be in this thread all year long. I think we have enough quality to stay up, but like I've said before, I was saying the same thing back in 2005 too so I really don't know.

I'm sure that on paper to other teams, it just looks like the Orient are going through a poor spell, and soon we'll string a couple of results together, hit some form with our quality and finish comfortably mid-table.

I can definitively say this season feels the exact same as our relegation from League 1 season. Players that are "too good" to go down, a carbon-copy clueless manager, and a malignant apathy around the team/fans.

Make no mistakes, we're in the bottom 2 for a reason, and I'm genuinely afraid that the drop is an eventuality come April/May.

 

[shoddycollins]

I'm sure that on paper to other teams, it just looks like the Orient are going through a poor spell, and soon we'll string a couple of results together, hit some form with our quality and finish comfortably mid-table.

I can definitively say this season feels the exact same as our relegation from League 1 season. Players that are "too good" to go down, a carbon-copy clueless manager, and a malignant apathy around the team/fans.

Make no mistakes, we're in the bottom 2 for a reason, and I'm genuinely afraid that the drop is an eventuality come April/May.

If it makes you feel any better, the relegation thread from 2014/15 when we first came to this forum is a good read (unless you support Tranmere or Cheltenham) lots of teams thought they were in the shit that year, lots of posters from Carlisle, Hartlepool, Mansfield and Cambridge pronouncing themselves as good as relegated (the liveliness of this subforum was in serious jeopardy that year)

 

[Vanni]

I never thought we were going down Shoddy, however I didn't think we were staying up quite comfortably, so to speak. I'm sure the fans of the clubs you've mentioned also thought that Cheltenham and Tranmere were going to pick up more points than they actually did, hence why these fans never safe. Last year was pretty similar too as both sides went down without putting up a decent fight.

 

[shoddycollins]

I never thought we were going down Shoddy, however I didn't think we were staying up quite comfortably, so to speak. I'm sure the fans of the clubs you've mentioned also thought that Cheltenham and Tranmere were going to pick up more points than they actually did, hence why these fans never safe. Last year was pretty similar too as both sides went down without putting up a decent fight.

There's been a recent trend I note of a single club starting the season terribly and looking to be adrift but managing to stay up after fighting back. Northampton three seasons ago, Hartlepool a couple of seasons ago, Newport last season. Newport again this season?

 

[Vanni]

Iirc, I predicted Newport to stay up this year but I thought they would have a decent start to the season, so their poor start was bit surprising to me. Appointing Westley was obviously a step in the right direction but I think they need to strengthen their squad in Jan if they want to stay up. I wasn't at the Newport match but a mate of mine told me they have some 4/5 players who aren't even Conference standard according to him.

Having said that, I still think they won't go down but it will be very close I reckon. If I were a betting man I'd put my money on Morecambe, but I don't have a clue who the other side to go down will be.

 

[ProfessorGreen]

It's alright guys, don't panic yet, Morecambe haven't started their annual monumental death slide down the league yet. They may start early this year and take one of the spots for you!

 

[Look Out There Are Llamas]

Bloody hope not. Love me some Morecambe.

 

[DarkSithLord]

Who would have thought back in 2012 that a League Fixture between Alfreton and Leyton Orient may become a reality in the not too distant future?

Iirc, I predicted Newport to stay up this year but I thought they would have a decent start to the season, so their poor start was bit surprising to me. Appointing Westley was obviously a step in the right direction but I think they need to strengthen their squad in Jan if they want to stay up. I wasn't at the Newport match but a mate of mine told me they have some 4/5 players who aren't even Conference standard according to him.

Having said that, I still think they won't go down but it will be very close I reckon. If I were a betting man I'd put my money on Morecambe, but I don't have a clue who the other side to go down will be.

Really? That gives me renewed hope for Sunday! Is there any Newport fans on here?

 

[Habbinalan]

Iirc, I predicted Newport to stay up this year but I thought they would have a decent start to the season, so their poor start was bit surprising to me. Appointing Westley was obviously a step in the right direction but I think they need to strengthen their squad in Jan if they want to stay up. I wasn't at the Newport match but a mate of mine told me they have some 4/5 players who aren't even Conference standard according to him.

Having said that, I still think they won't go down but it will be very close I reckon. If I were a betting man I'd put my money on Morecambe, but I don't have a clue who the other side to go down will be.

I agree that Newport have few players of L2 standard. Having chatted with their fans, they also don't have the cash or board room motivation/leadership to put that right in January, even with loans. I think they'll continue to drift and the "fact" that Westley appears to have been interviewed for the GY job suggests he's already looking for a way out.

Looks like Dave Jones and Graham Westley (yes, really) have also been interviewed.

With a bit of cash behind him, I think Bentley has the contacts and ability to get Morecambe towards mid-table.

I occasionally worry for us but that's in the blood. A more detatched view would suggest that ability to add fresh momentum in January will be key. That requires a canny manager or management team with contacts and a reasonably calm situation behind the scenes - or at least access to more cash. There seems scope for that to go wrong with most of the teams up to the top 10 but Orient fit the bill best at the moment and they have only a couple of months to get in Graham Westley .

 

[Brooksy]

Hah! The local rag have run a story on this today and our Board have done a 'nothing to see here' response claiming that there has been no approach for Wezzer. Of course, football being football, this is what was said re: Sheridan before he was photographed being tapped up by Notts County officials in a Costa shortly before he left. I would still lump on Marcus Bignott getting the Grimsby job.

Wezzer will stay. Wezzer will save us.

He has certainly made a big difference and some of those loafers and wasters have either pulled their fingers out or are nowhere near the starting line-up. All this with a fairly lengthy list of injuries.

Also he has been told there is money to strengthen the squad in January.

We shall see what we shall see.

 

[shoddycollins]

Hah! The local rag have run a story on this today and our Board have done a 'nothing to see here' response claiming that there has been no approach for Wezzer. Of course, football being football, this is what was said re: Sheridan before he was photographed being tapped up by Notts County officials in a Costa shortly before he left. I would still lump on Marcus Bignott getting the Grimsby job.

Wezzer will stay. Wezzer will save us.

He has certainly made a big difference and some of those loafers and wasters have either pulled their fingers out or are nowhere near the starting line-up. All this with a fairly lengthy list of injuries.

Also he has been told there is money to strengthen the squad in January.

We shall see what we shall see.

Looking forward to seeing time-outs in a game of football again.

 

[Brooksy]

Looking forward to seeing time-outs in a game of football again.

You'll get a variant on what he used to do at Stevenage.

You should be worried since we seem to be a bit of a bogey team for you since we retuned to the league ... or not.

We actually look miles better than when we played the likes of Cambridge BTW.

 

[Trapdoor]

I hope none of you northerners are eyeing up our relegation spot. It's ours I tell ye.

 

[shoddycollins]

You'll get a variant on what he used to do at Stevenage.

You should be worried since we seem to be a bit of a bogey team for you since we retuned to the league ... or not.

We actually look miles better than when we played the likes of Cambridge BTW.

Well we've only got two seasons of being in the same division to base that on, and in one of those seasons you were the promotion chasers and we were the relegation candidates. Last season you did the inevitable thing of getting your first win of the season against us when after we had taken Liverpool to 120 minutes at Anfield. Hopefully this time round will be a little more straightforward, I'm glad you're not winless because then you may as well stick your house on a Newport win and we do seem to do well against Wezza.

Has he got you playing long ball? I don't think we concede many to route one.

 

[shoddycollins]

I hope none of you northerners are eyeing up our relegation spot. It's ours I tell ye.

I'm sure Hartlepool will be in it at some point in the season, they won't go down but like a 39 year old father of two in a Santa outfit, they just can't resist dipping their toes in the cold water of relegation for a while in winter, just to remind themselves that remaining in the league is a far greater achievement than actually ever winning anything. Maybe like the rosset-clad Dad, they're also doing it for charity, I don't know what goes down in Hartlepool over the festive period, but collecting money for their annual dip into peril would raise a fair bit. Jeff Stelling could even host a telethon.

 

[Brooksy]

Has he got you playing long ball? I don't think we concede many to route one.

He has actually got us playing some nice stuff. Mind you, 'nice stuff' this season means anything that's doesn't involve players colliding with each other, going to sleep on the pitch, confusing which goal we are attacking, forgetting what they are supposed to do with the football when it's passed to them etc.

Having seen Wezzer's teams before, this is not what I was expecting.

 

[BeesKnees]

Morecambe in trouble ?
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37883254

 

[Hooped Wizard]

What's going on at Colchester?
Genuine relegation fighters or squad too strong ?

 

[shoddycollins]

What's going on at Colchester?
Genuine relegation fighters or squad too strong ?

They looked pretty good when they came to Brunton Park earlier in the season, I thought they were promotion contenders, but they've been on a terrible run since then.

 

[Hooped Wizard]

They couldn't even score against us !

 

[WAP]

They were terrible at FP.

 

[PaulHaddock]

They were good against us but that was at the start of the season.

 

[Casey]

I think we are popping our head into this thread. We can't seem to score more than one goal a game (in the league) and our defence is leaking like a thing with big holes in.

Add in a manager who has no league manager experience and this could go badly wrong for us.

Concerned of Crawley

 

[The Terminator]

Even we beat Colchester 3-0 last week and they were appalling, along with Newport (Pre Westley) the worst teams I've seen this season, apart from my own on our own patch.

 

[shoddycollins]

So from what I can gather just going off what people are saying. four from Plymouth, Carlisle, Doncaster, Luton, Portsmouth and Grimsby will be going up, everyone else is getting relegated.

Except Newport, which presumably means that Newport will finish up the top seven, making the play-offs, which of course they'll win. Probably beat Plymouth in the final.

 

[Trapdoor]

Hi Guys!!!

 

[AdamStag]

I don't think any side is going to be confirmed in this for certain for some period of time - the league is too close to be naming anyone already.

The top 5 with maybe another side joining them will be fine.

You always have that side that fall like a stone - Morecambe normally give it a good go.

I haven't yet seen one good side in this league (including ourselves) and lots have been shocking

 

[AdamStag]

So from what I can gather just going off what people are saying. four from Plymouth, Carlisle, Doncaster, Luton, Portsmouth and Grimsby will be going up, everyone else is getting relegated.

Except Newport, which presumably means that Newport will finish up the top seven, making the play-offs, which of course they'll win. Probably beat Plymouth in the final.

Pretty much!

We had both had a good go at getting relegated the other year