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Everyone is seeming to have so many injuries now. With all the nutrician and fitness experts at clubs, why is it?
My theory is that they warm up too much before games, some stretching and work up to a sprint should be enough but it`s like playing half a game on top of the 90 minutes.
 

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Everyone is seeming to have so many injuries now. With all the nutrician and fitness experts at clubs, why is it?
My theory is that they warm up too much before games, some stretching and work up to a sprint should be enough but it`s like playing half a game on top of the 90 minutes.
We've had injury crisis for 3 years now pretty much non stop, last season we had no striker for 2 months and 3 centre halves (well one was a LWB really) and this season we are down to throwing youth players in who aren't ready to get by, not to mention the promotion season where we got saved by a Covid outbreak over Christmas as again we had no fit strikers or back ups and had to stick Garrity up top alone (did get 3 against Rovers and Newport mind before the enforced break).

For us we've had a lot of backlogs of games which hasn't helped, the pitch was awful last season and didn't they blame the training pitch the other week for this with the pitch now fixed?

I do wonder to a degree though if sports science plays a part, players getting judged on fitness on that rather than in the past where players would play through pain or a niggle.
 

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Everyone is seeming to have so many injuries now. With all the nutrician and fitness experts at clubs, why is it?
My theory is that they warm up too much before games, some stretching and work up to a sprint should be enough but it`s like playing half a game on top of the 90 minutes.

I think the only real solution is to reduce the number of games, but that's unlikely to ever happen. I'd say the majority of injuries are caused by overwork of muscles and joints.

Also, I reckon we see a lot of injuries particularly at this level because League One contains plenty of players capable of playing at a higher level, but who can't win a contract due to their fitness record. Div 1 clubs take plenty of gambles on players to try and up their quality so it's very hit and miss.
 

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Everyone is seeming to have so many injuries now. With all the nutrician and fitness experts at clubs, why is it?
My theory is that they warm up too much before games, some stretching and work up to a sprint should be enough but it`s like playing half a game on top of the 90 minutes.

Interesting take. Our manager Wellens discussed this last week. He puts it down to the variation in surfaces these days especially during winter. Apparently the other week we trained on a drenched soft training pitch then trained on astro turf then went to Sheff Utd training ground and trained on a different surface again and then played a match on long grass and then a short cut cist hybrid pitch at our stadium which plays firm. It's causing many more ACL issues.
 

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Interesting take. Our manager Wellens discussed this last week. He puts it down to the variation in surfaces these days especially during winter. Apparently the other week we trained on a drenched soft training pitch then trained on astro turf then went to Sheff Utd training ground and trained on a different surface again and then played a match on long grass and then a short cut cist hybrid pitch at our stadium which plays firm. It's causing many more ACL issues.
Plus footballers are more "Athletes" now so much more pressure on bodies.

Not like Micky Adams 2009 vintage Vale where they'd run loads then head to the pub for a few jars!
 

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Go on Carlisle fans, say it …… you fancy this one don’t you? Even with our excellent past form at Carlisle this one is looking like a tricky game, but a must win one for us, just not sure we can deliver. I watched the Pompey game from behind the sofa, watching this one from the safety of a nice padded panic room!
 

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Injuries are now catching up with us. latest now is Charles out for between 2/3 weeks with a knee injury
Complete spine of our team missing in the next couple of weeks.
Players off the top of my head missing Baxter, Williams, Santos, Johnston, Forester,Thomason, Nlundulu, and Charles
Just need to stay in touch by pinching a few results
 

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We must've only beaten Exeter in two of our last 10/12 meetings (both in our title winning L2 season, I think).

The side was a bit unbalanced last night - having to manage minutes and deciding to fit players into the system rather than finding a system to suit the available players, which I've got no problem with. We didn't even fill the bench again. Gone from having to leave players out the squad to that in no time at all!

We'll have McGrandles back after not being able to play against his parent club, so that adds a needed option into CM. Draper, House and Bishop had to have their minutes managed last night and I suspect it'll be similar again at the weekend. I doubt Hamilton will be available (knee), nor Jackson with his newly broken nose.
McGrandles back, Hamilton back in training but probably won't make tomorrow, Jackson still out and Draper now also out after being whacked on his bad ankle at Charlton in a game he shouldn't really have played in but had to because of managing House's minutes.
 

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It's not like the ones we have missing are fringe players either. That's Connor Taylor, George Friend, Anthony Evans, Sam Finley, Kamil Conteh, Grant Ward, Brandon Aguilera, Luke McCormick, Harvey Vale, Jordan Rossiter....many of them would be starters.
Josh Grant anywhere in the back line or CDM gives me the shits but thats most likely to happen on Sat, plus there is always one surprise injury that we learn about on the day.
What I take from this is that neither manager can use the injuries as an excuse if they lose, because both teams are in the exact same position. I bet they will though.
 

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What I take from this is that neither manager can use the injuries as an excuse if they lose, because both teams are in the exact same position. I bet they will though.
Is Hoskins likely to be out have you heard? he looked lively in the first meeting
 

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Is Hoskins likely to be out have you heard? he looked lively in the first meeting
yes, but unusually we don't really miss him, as you'd expect with a top scorer. Yes it would be great if he was fit, but Bowie and Simpson are now taking up the scoring.

The missing Sowerby and McWilliams in midfield are more important to us I think.

Could be quite a high scoring game with both our defence/midfield hit with injuries ala Orient on tuesday. Cue 0-0.

I'm glad Evans is out, scored in the 2 out 3 games his played against us.
 
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yes, but unusually we don't really miss him, as you'd expect with a top scorer. Yes it would be great if he was fit, but Bowie and Simpson are now taking up the scoring.

The missing Sowerby and McWilliams in midfield are more important to us I think.

Could be quite a high scoring game with both our defence/midfield hit with injuries ala Orient on tuesday. Cue 0-0.
Connor Taylor, Anthony Evans, Sam Finley and Grant Ward are the main ones out for us. The first 2 can have claims for POTS and Finley has upped his game since Taylor came in.
Then there are the likes of James Wilson and Jack Hunt who are in and out with injuries every other week it seems.
Should be a good battle of the patch-up jobs!!
 

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Go on Carlisle fans, say it …… you fancy this one don’t you? Even with our excellent past form at Carlisle this one is looking like a tricky game, but a must win one for us, just not sure we can deliver. I watched the Pompey game from behind the sofa, watching this one from the safety of a nice padded panic room!

Well yeah of course I fancy it, always have and you were the shittest team I've seen us play this season by far. I have absolutely no doubt that we will absolutely annihilate you tomorrow 6-0 at least because you're really just a shitty little L2 club at best and it will be a complete utter walk in the park and you're just so shit and a backward fucking minnow tinpot club with shite fans and there's not a single player of yours who would get in our squad and your manager whoever he is is absolutely clueless and how you ever got as far as L1 is a sick joke considering how fucking shit your club is.

If I ever had any certainty of us winning a game in the history of our club then it is tomorrow.
 

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Just seen a couple stats on City v Lincoln - we’ve only won 1 in 9 at Sincil Bank, Lincoln are 6 unbeaten against us, but have only won 2 of the last 10 meetings against us…. Score draw it is then.
 

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In regards to injuries I think alot of it this season is due to the amount of extra time. Players are playing on average 10-12 mins each match. However most of Pompeys injuries have been due to tackles in a match. Robertson, anjorin and Lowery are the exceptions. It always seems to happen in one position for us and Derby. We had a huge central midfieler selection at one point. We're now down to 2 natural CMs. One being Moxon who luckily we signed on deadline day. To have Morrell, Robertson out as first teamers, then Lowery to go down again, then we have squad players Devlin and Stevenson out aswell is just mental. Losing Poole for the season then getting in Mcintyre who breaks his ankle after 50 mins of his debut is such a Pompey thing do do. Derby seems have lost all of their senior forwards at the same time aswell.
 

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Hamilton surprisingly starts for us in CM but no Hackett who seems to have scored or assisted all our goals in recent matches! He'll be a huge miss in attack.

Can't fill the bench again either.
 

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Strange line up. Five changes, no Eisa, Harper or Cole. Cox up front on his own by the looks of it.
Not sure if it's fatigue or tactical. Nor confident either way
 

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We are screwed without Baxter and Santos. Every time they get a set piece near our box or put a cross in we look so vulnerable. Seriously think we are in big trouble for this run in now. We could afford to lose a few players but not those 2.
 

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Shocking once again, although the ref and lino failed to give a pen for a clear pull in the box which would have made it 1-1
 

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Well that would have been an absolute travesty if we'd gone in behind at half time. Shite goal to concede but responded well and battered Vale since. Same again second half and we should win this.
 

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Not there but seems some anger about the free kick which led to the goal. So sloppy again though for us to not see it out.

Big half time for Moore here, results mean this is must get something from.
 

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One up via a stonewall penalty. Burton are set up spectacularly negatively. Hopefully we’ll pick them off on the break when they inevitably try and get back into it.
 

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Charlton have scored 2 goals from a combined xg of 0.03!
 

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We are screwed without Baxter and Santos. Every time they get a set piece near our box or put a cross in we look so vulnerable. Seriously think we are in big trouble for this run in now. We could afford to lose a few players but not those 2.
I think that’s our first goal from a corner since December 2022 or something crazy. Your keeper looks very vulnerable
 

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Charlton have scored 2 goals from a combined xg of 0.03!
Maybe a bit misleading because if Ladapo gets a glance on the cross that went straight in it’s probably close to a 0.5xg chance
 

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That goal does not deserve to be in this game


These wont end with 11 men with this ref


Awful team
 

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I think that’s our first goal from a corner since December 2022 or something crazy. Your keeper looks very vulnerable
Honestly he’s a huge step down from Baxter. Can see the Nathan Jones style in full swing. So direct. And 5 yellows. You’re gonna get a red surely.

Some goal that from Maghoma.
 

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