Saturday 28th October Fixtures

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Well if signing Ryan Loft is anything to go by . Either your club has no money or ambition or both.
The rumour was we paid a decent fee for him with add ons. We’ve made big money this summer with Forrester to Bolton 200k, a youth lad to Newcastle for 200k and a “record fee for a school boy” to Villa so moneys coming in. The owners have spent £10 million in buying and financing the club since 2019 but a lot has had to be invested in the ground, infrastructure etc as the ground was in bits.

Do wonder how much the DC situation cost as well, five year deal to let him go a year into that. The Portsmouth situation seemed to trigger the downfall in January.

Loft seems to be the boo boy at the moment, we always have to have one for some reason, he’s played 3 45 minute spells and 60 yesterday as he was nowhere near fit when he came then got injured, he’s missed a few good chances but actually thought he looked decent yesterday and held the ball well and battled well (more than most of our side who looked half arsed).

Can’t imagine Uche has come for peanuts either but again the issue there is he’s not played since February so miles off fitness.

We are massively looking at young players though for the future, our youth system is producing us some great prospects and we’ve apparently completed a deal for this American lad who’s been on trial with Brentford and was wanted by Arsenal but it’s all very mid to long term if we don’t keep the same focus on now.

We’ve clearly invested more on higher quality loans hence Devine, Arblaster and Balmer for example but too many kids in an XI and you have a situation like yesterday, two very young centre halves, an 18 year old at LWB (who is actually a Right sides forward) and a young but talented midfield. They had zero experience or nous to turn that around when it went against us.

I get what we are trying to go, develop, sell on and increase the budget and power in the market we’ve got to be very careful not to go backwards in the current time.
 

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Time will tell with that. The squad we had in our first season back at this level, collectively, as a team was a strong and capable side in this league.

Perhaps this season we have individuals with better pedigree and greater experience at higher levels, however apart from this week they have been largely atrocious the last two months.

If they're even half as good as their form from August then perhaps you'll be proven right. But another two months of form we've just been through and the current team will be closer to being the shite we had for much of last season.
We've got better players from the bench this season and most of our win's have come from our subs making an impact to win us the game.

To put a bit of perspective on things, we had 21 points at Xmas last season. We have 19 points currently and at the exact same time like season we had 16. If we have another atrocious two months as you put it and pick up 10 points like we have just done these last two months to put us on 29 points we are still well ahead of where we were last season at Xmas.

Football is fine margins and if we score the penalty against Port Vale in the last minute and don't give that last minute goal away at home to Shrewsbury we'd be sitting 8th.
 

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Was Loft a panic buy though? While it went through on deadline day, you lot were reporting for months about your interest
 

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Was Loft a panic buy though? While it went through on deadline day, you lot were reporting for months about your interest

Correct, we'd actually been after him since January apparently (assume you couldn't sell at that point).

In fairness he's always looked like Harry Kane when he's played us!

Scored in that 3-1 for you, scored 3 or 4 times for Scunthorpe and scored against us for Carlisle so seems to have scored a good % of his goal tally against us down the years!

That said I think he's being unfairly battered at the moment, he's played no better nor worse than Uche, both are not fully fit yet Uche is being worshipped.
 

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Correct, we'd actually been after him since January apparently (assume you couldn't sell at that point).

In fairness he's always looked like Harry Kane when he's played us!

Scored in that 3-1 for you, scored 3 or 4 times for Scunthorpe and scored against us for Carlisle so seems to have scored a good % of his goal tally against us down the years!

That said I think he's being unfairly battered at the moment, he's played no better nor worse than Uche, both are not fully fit yet Uche is being worshipped.
Loft will be a nuisance and has a decent turn of pace, but rarely looks like scoring and his first touch is Sunday League level (sorry to any Sunday League players out there).
To be honest he didnt do a lot in L2 let alone L1.
Think he needs a decent pacy partner with him like when he had Abo Eisa at Scunny, although Collins is no slouch he tends to play out wide
 

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Loft will be a nuisance and has a decent turn of pace, but rarely looks like scoring and his first touch is Sunday League level (sorry to any Sunday League players out there).
To be honest he didnt do a lot in L2 let alone L1.
Think he needs a decent pacy partner with him like when he had Abo Eisa at Scunny, although Collins is no slouch he tends to play out wide
He had Thomas with him Saturday who is rapid and did ok but generally we play one up front so need him to be a target man!
 

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He had Thomas with him Saturday who is rapid and did ok but generally we play one up front so need him to be a target man!
Ah well I dont think you will get much from him as a target man. For a big lad he isnt that great in the air either.
He will chase the opposition defenders and give a fair few fouls away, but thats about it.
 

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Uche's shit in the air too, needs ball to feet.
 

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Both of them look like real panic/stop-gap signings to me. Both unfit and neither really suited to the way we play. It's the second year running where our forward signings aren't good enough. We're either unwilling or unable to sign players in that position of the calibre necessary.
 

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Hard to say really as everyone looks good against us, we even managed to make Reading look reasonable for 45 mins but Bolton are again the best side we’ve played this season and we are a million miles away from it.
changed your mind...........spent 4m since we battered you once again in the valley of the dammed yet you now think you are Brazil 1970
 

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mine is bookmarked. You won’t go up.
 

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mine is bookmarked. You won’t go up.
The squad is there, not convinced with the management.........The owners will decide as much as the players if we go up.
How can a manager play two in midfield???

We will certainly finish above Charlton..........You both can bookmark that
 

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changed your mind...........spent 4m since we battered you once again in the valley of the dammed yet you now think you are Brazil 1970

Yes Masi, after 11 months, two transfer windows and a change in manager, I have changed my mind.

Both sides worlds away from where they were in October 2023.
 

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Yes Masi, after 11 months, two transfer windows and a change in manager, I have changed my mind.

Both sides worlds away from where they were in October 2023.
You praised us in oct23.........That squad has grown and developed since then. Only needs a manager who plays any conventional system to get that squad out of that league.
Evatt has played three games now 5/2/3 They do not play that system in any football in any league in the world
 

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