The 2016/17 Promotion Thread

[Jockney]

If you can afford James Henry and give Mark Beevers a pay rise your budget dwarfs 90% of this division. No one's saying you don't deserve promotion.

 

[Muzzle]

James henry wage is being paid mainly by wolves, Beevers took a slight reduction to come back north, but they all get a bonus if we go up so the differential between his wage would be offset by promotion

 

[WilsdenBantam]

It depends on your perspective, we have the largest wage bill by far but 5 players take up around 4-5 mill of that, and these players are still on the prem/1st season in championship wages, the rest of the squad (around 18 players) are a combined total of around 5 million. We haven't spent any money on transfers, and the loan players we have are being paid 50% by their parent club. With the finacial issues we have had the last 5 years, our budget on playing staff isn't as great as you'd think.

So £10 Million wage bill, last season ours was the 5th biggest at £2.5 Mil. Different league to the rest of us as predicted, as another poster says you still deserve to go up, but Sheff utd and Bolton are playing a different game financially so it doesn't come as a surprise how it's panned out.

 

[Muzzle]

Take your point, i was just trying to say that whilst on paper it looks like our wage bill is massive, the hangover from the previous years over inflates this. If we don't get prmotion this year, our wage bill finally gets slashed to about yours £2.5m, we'll lose all but one of the big earners, the loanees go back and I think we are down to around 6 professionals left, so the cloth gets cut accordingly. You would expect us Charlton and to some extent MK dons to have wage bills larger, Sheff Utd are a different matter though, as have been in this division 6 (?) years

 

[WilsdenBantam]

Take your point, i was just trying to say that whilst on paper it looks like our wage bill is massive, the hangover from the previous years over inflates this. If we don't get prmotion this year, our wage bill finally gets slashed to about yours £2.5m, we'll lose all but one of the big earners, the loanees go back and I think we are down to around 6 professionals left, so the cloth gets cut accordingly. You would expect us Charlton and to some extent MK dons to have wage bills larger, Sheff Utd are a different matter though, as have been in this division 6 (?) years

Yes i agree what you are saying, don't blame Bolton it's just one of those things with relegated teams having bigger wage bills. Regarding Sheffield United yes they've been in this league about 6 years or so, but are a far bigger club than everyone else in this league. I'd guess their sponsorship deals and season tickets prices/sales are far superior to others giving them a big budget naturally.

 

[LS Bantam]

Of all the leagues, this one seems to be the one where the top budget can almost guarantee promotion more so than any other division - since we came back 4 years or so ago I can't think of a season where the biggest spenders (overall budget) haven't gone up automatically.

 

[Shrimpurh]

Of all the leagues, this one seems to be the one where the top budget can almost guarantee promotion more so than any other division - since we came back 4 years or so ago I can't think of a season where the biggest spenders (overall budget) haven't gone up automatically.

Easy.. Burton last season..

Ignore I've read that totally wrong.

 

[blademan89]

Yes i agree what you are saying, don't blame Bolton it's just one of those things with relegated teams having bigger wage bills. Regarding Sheffield United yes they've been in this league about 6 years or so, but are a far bigger club than everyone else in this league. I'd guess their sponsorship deals and season tickets prices/sales are far superior to others giving them a big budget naturally.

Our wage bill this season is the lowest of any of the 6 seasons we've been here and I think our spending is the lowest too. Don't get me wrong I guess it will still naturally be bigger than everyone else's but Just goes to show paying big wages and bigger money doesn't always work.

 

[WilsdenBantam]

Our wage bill this season is the lowest of any of the 6 seasons we've been here and I think our spending is the lowest too. Don't get me wrong I guess it will still naturally be bigger than everyone else's but Just goes to show paying big wages and bigger money doesn't always work.

Agreed you need the right personnel as well particularly in the management department, which for me both have. So it has come as no shock that Sheff utd and Bolton are where they are, the shocks for me this season have been Fleetwood, Charlton and MK two of them for different reasons to Fleetwood.

Money doesn't make any guarantees, but it helps.

 

[Millwall_Matt]

Basically this year, the clubs with the biggest budgets have made good managerial appointments for this level, bought in the right sort of players and have sewn up promotion, a bit like Wolves did a few years ago. It's when 'big' clubs insist on fannying about with managers and players not suited to the rough and tumble of this league that they struggle.

 

[Muzzle]

Basically this year, the clubs with the biggest budgets have made good managerial appointments for this level, bought in the right sort of players and have sewn up promotion, a bit like Wolves did a few years ago. It's when 'big' clubs insist on fannying about with managers and players not suited to the rough and tumble of this league that they struggle.

Absolutely agree with that have a +1 from me

 

[SMH]

Basically this year, the clubs with the biggest budgets have made good managerial appointments for this level, bought in the right sort of players and have sewn up promotion, a bit like Wolves did a few years ago. It's when 'big' clubs insist on fannying about with managers and players not suited to the rough and tumble of this league that they struggle.

Agree with this. Hopefully we do the same next season when we're back down here again. As long as we get someone sensible in like Kenny Jackett then I think we will.

 

[Parchpea]

As expected automatic looks sewn up and for us its about not capitulating completely and having a go at the playoffs which we will be underdogs in anyway.

Squads running on empty at the minute and injuries mounting up, whatever happens given it our best, good season.

 

[07.05.16]

Playoff talk was fun while it lasted.
No chance after today's PATHETIC performance against bottom of the league.

 

[Shrimpurh]

Rangers goal lol liberty

 

[Jockney]

We weren't good enough last year even though we were clearly one of the best sides in the league. We're clearly much worse than we were last year. Not good enough to go up even if we make them IMO. Completely wasted this squad. Need big changes in our tactical approach over the summer but I don't see that happening.

 

[Bottega Don]

Our keeper Luke Daniels out for the rest of the season, if we make the play-offs I'm not fancying our chances.

 

[bantamigo]

Poor from us but ground out three points. We've not played as well as we were in the first half of the season for a while but results are much better. Not sure what you'd prefer going into the playoffs.

 

[blade1889]

Fleetwood blowing it? We finally seem to be one foot over the hurdle, cheers for having us guys

 

[Shropshire Shoe]

Wilder is going to win promotion at Sixfields with Sheffield United next
Saturday it's inevitable.

 

[blade1889]

Wilder is going to win promotion at Sixfields with Sheffield United next
Saturday it's inevitable.

After the Milwall game I went with Northampton promotion and Bradford for the title. Would be a fitting way for Wilder to go up I guess!

 

[blademan89]

Fleetwood will lose at Oxford we will beat cov , over by Wednesday

 

[Bottega Don]

Can't see us making the Play-Offs.

We're ravaged by injuries to some of our best players, Alexander has seemingly lost the plot, snapping in a post-match interview and dropping our best player from last week and our discipline is stupidly bad, we give away penalties for fun. No idea where it all went wrong.

 

[LS Bantam]

I'd be happy with a fourth place finish and a home game in the second leg, I'm not really looking higher than that

 

[LS Bantam]

Could also do with Sheffield Utd wrapping the league up by our game on Easter Monday, don't fancy our chances at all if they have something to play for in front of the TV cameras

 

[Millwall_Matt]

Can't see us making the Play-Offs.

We're ravaged by injuries to some of our best players, Alexander has seemingly lost the plot, snapping in a post-match interview and dropping our best player from last week and our discipline is stupidly bad, we give away penalties for fun. No idea where it all went wrong.

Your obviously a good team, even today a few of yours oozed class (Crooks?), but looked like a team divided to be honest. Heads went down after the early goal and there was an awful lot of infighting going on. Dawson has always impressed me before, but today he looked like he'd have gotten more joy from belting a few team mates than driving his team forwards.

In all honesty, unless it's just a lack of confidence I'd be fairly worried.

 

[Shrimpurh]

We could end up third after Tuesday haha

 

[07.05.16]

We could end up third after Tuesday haha

Funny how things change. Didn't Phil Brown say you had no chance of the playoffs after we beat you?
You've won every game since...

 

[blademan89]

We could end up third after Tuesday haha

Brown out

 

[bantamigo]

Could also do with Sheffield Utd wrapping the league up by our game on Easter Monday, don't fancy our chances at all if they have something to play for in front of the TV cameras

If they need to win on Easter Monday they'd probably pick a few teams in this league to play before us. Can't see why we would go there with any fear.