The Coalition of Expensive Chaos

[Gashead]

Nor is it particularly good long term policy to piss off the young but they seem to do that all the time. I know the general wisdom is that people will drift right as they get older if you look at the polling of young people's voting habits then the gap between Labour and Conservative is much wider than it used to be (as is the gap between older people voting Conservative versus older people voting Labour).

A common view amongst my age group is 'what have politicians ever done for me?' because we've never grown up with politicians who particularly care about the youth. To be fair to Blair's Labour there were some attempts made and it did seem that more schools, hospitals, community projects were planned and built etc. compared to now. But I'd still say that since 18-24 year olds have been conscious of politics (from maybe 2005-2013 for age group as a whole?) it's largely been a load of shite. Clegg etc. fucked us over, and the Cons are continuing and expanding that trend.

Interesting what you say about the polling. Its hard to tell if the 'left leaning tendencies' growing larger amongst the young is because of youthful idealism (as Bernie Sanders put it yesterday/today), or because the right and the centre have let us down. Hard to establish a cause and effect.

Catch 22 really. Youngsters don't vote in their droves like seniors do etc. so politicians don't prioritise them. But at the same time, will they ever vote if politicians keep ignoring them?

 

[silkyman]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/vital-support-disabled-slashed-20-7390735

 

[Techno Natch]

The disdain that the Conservatives have for the disabled is amazing.

 

[Techno Natch]

Thoughts on this move
TractorBoys

Been talking to a few Tory voters this year who regret it already so would be interested what you think after nearly a year.

 

[silkyman]

The disdain that the Conservatives have for the disabled is amazing.

But Dave had a disabled son wot DIED so he can't possibly be nasty to the NHS or disabled people.

 

[Womble98]

All Corbyn's backers, look at the polls right now. We are seeing some of the worst decision making and brutal cuts for a long long time. The deficit is worse than it has been under Labour. Spending is up. And still, the Tories lead in most polls by 10%. If Labour can't lead now with Corbyn, it won't in 2020. Corbyn out.

 

[Techno Natch]

Tim Farron in? Conservatives will get in again no problem.

 

[Womble98]

Tim Farron in? Conservatives will get in again no problem.

I want Tim Farron to step down and for us to completely rebrand the party, new name, new everything.

 

[The Paranoid Pineapple]

AFC Liberal Democrats?

 

[Dave-Vale]

Yesterday's jeering along with Cameron's comments today regarding Corbyn's clothes show what a truly vile bunch of scumbags the Tories are.

 

[mowgli]

Yesterday's jeering along with Cameron's comments today regarding Corbyn's clothes show what a truly vile bunch of scumbags the Tories are.

And the speaker allowed it to carry on for 30 seconds,why did he not stop it as that's his job ffs!

 

[Carver]

Well you lot couldn't do any better.

If you think you know how the country should be run then why don't you run for Prime Minister? If you think this country is bad then you do not know most of the rest of the world

 

[blade1889]

You do realise this is a forum, where people discuss ideas, right!?

Just because I'm not a footballer I can still pass comment. I'm not a manager but can still pass comment. Heck we spend a lot of our lives discussing things that we aren't directly involved in. What a boring world it would be if we didn't. And what an odd suggestion that just because we have different views on how things should be done we should go for their job (and by assertion shut up otherwise).

And I think everyone in this thread acknowledges that there are far worse places to live. Just because you can point to worse places doesn't mean you should think its job done and theres no point in trying to improve yourself or what you have. In whatever profession you're in I'm sure there are worse people than you at it!? So should you now sit back with your feet on the table refusing to improve cos 'hey theres worse than me'? I'd suggest you wont get very far with that attitude.

 

[smat]

Well you lot couldn't do any better.

If you think you know how the country should be run then why don't you run for Prime Minister? If you think this country is bad then you do not know most of the rest of the world

good point acutally mate

 

[Carver]

You do realise this is a forum, where people discuss ideas, right!?

Just because I'm not a footballer I can still pass comment. I'm not a manager but can still pass comment. Heck we spend a lot of our lives discussing things that we aren't directly involved in. What a boring world it would be if we didn't. And what an odd suggestion that just because we have different views on how things should be done we should go for their job (and by assertion shut up otherwise).

And I think everyone in this thread acknowledges that there are far worse places to live. Just because you can point to worse places doesn't mean you should think its job done and theres no point in trying to improve yourself or what you have. In whatever profession you're in I'm sure there are worse people than you at it!? So should you now sit back with your feet on the table refusing to improve cos 'hey theres worse than me'? I'd suggest you wont get very far with that attitude.

Ok I get that you like to have a little moan about stuff every now and then.

 

[blade1889]

Ok I get that you like to have a little moan about stuff every now and then.

I actually just enjoy reading opposing views to mine sometimes...which as a Tory voter is most of this thread

 

[Abertawe]

A carver versus a blade, this is a pretty epic battle. Someone getting sliced!

 

[blade1889]

A carver versus a blade, this is a pretty epic battle. Someone getting sliced!

Now I really want a carvery and all I have is lentils. That's just not fair.

 

[The Paranoid Pineapple]

Can you be a northern lgbtqwerty and still be a tory voter? I feel this should not be allowed (and thankfully it won't be on my ascent to power )

 

[blade1889]

Can you be a northern lgbtqwerty and still be a tory voter? I feel this should not be allowed (and thankfully it won't be on my ascent to power )

In last years election a girl at an LGBT meeting asked who I was 'supporting', when I told her she just said 'oh, typical white gay man, they all vote Tory' and walked off.

 

[Aber gas]

In last years election a girl at an LGBT meeting asked who I was 'supporting', when I told her she just said 'oh, typical white gay man, they all vote Tory' and walked off.

 

[The Paranoid Pineapple]

I approve of her DISDAIN

 

[Carver]

Is blade1889 gay?

 

[Stagat]

Yeah.

Why?

 

[Carver]

Yeah.

Why?

Is he posh as well?

 

[Stagat]

No idea.

Why?

 

[Carver]

No idea.

Why?

I think he said he is a tory, so he must be posh.

 

[Ebeneezer Goode]

thank you for your contribution

 

[blade1889]

You seem amazed by the concept of a gay posh man. You do realise the only thing that's mutually exclusive for gay males is a sexual attraction towards females, right!?

 

[Carver]

Someone told me that if I vote for Tory's then they'll get rid health and safety rules in the workplace and that they'd get rid of unions and make people do forced labour.

Is this true?