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Tristram Hunt finally fucks off. Twattish ingrate who was parachuted into a overwhelmingly safe Labour seat and then did nothing but bitch and moan.
Thanks for your input Tristy now kindly fuck off to obscurity.
RIP.
 

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Tristram Hunt finally fucks off. Twattish ingrate who was parachuted into a overwhelmingly safe Labour seat and then did nothing but bitch and moan.
Thanks for your input Tristy now kindly fuck off to obscurity.
RIP.
He can't your mate Corbyn is already there.

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Just got to keep going. Keep banging the message home. People are skint and are being totally shafted. Labour can change this. NHS, earnings, ant austerity message. These things are what people want to hear.
Absolutely. But I think V is correct that Corbyn hasn't been 'banging the message home' sufficiently.
 
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Absolutely. But I think V is correct that Corbyn hasn't been 'banging the message home' sufficiently.
I don't think that's right. He's been unstinting in his support for the NHS. Standing side to side with junior doctors, consistently keeping the NHS at the centre of the debate. His calls for the scrapping of corporation tax cuts to pay for emergency care are what needs to be said. I'm not sure what more you'd have the man do.
 

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Does that not prove how bollox they are. Not wishing to go over old ground but you'd have to be crazy or have an agenda to think the tories are more trusted with the nhs. Don't fall for their games young V.
 

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Does that not prove how bollox they are. Not wishing to go over old ground but you'd have to be crazy or have an agenda to think the tories are more trusted with the nhs. Don't fall for their games young V.

I was genuinely shocked when I saw that poll, as I thought the NHS would be a strong issue area for JC and toxic for TM. How can anyone think TM and the govt can be trusted with the NHS?!?!

As for me being young, I should be so lucky.
 

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I was genuinely shocked when I saw that poll, as I thought the NHS would be a strong issue area for JC and toxic for TM. How can anyone think TM and the govt can be trusted with the NHS?!?!

Many voters wouldn't trust Corbyn with watering their plants when they were away on holiday, why would they trust him on the NHS?

Polls place Labour ahead of the Tories when it comes to the NHS.
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/820344572454797315

Hopefully he can turn it around.
 

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So voters trust the Labour Party but not Corbyn then.

Yes, this does seem like the only reasonable conclusion to draw. As mnb suggests, Labour do still regularly poll ahead of the Tories on the NHS. It's the one big issue that should be an absolute banker for them. That the introduction of the party leaders into the equation should have produced such a reversal is rather worrying (it also tallies with what we know about Jeremy Corbyn and his dire personal poll ratings). I like him personally but I think the negative perception that a lot of voters obviously have of him is going to prove very difficult to shift.
 
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Corbyn like Michael Foot or Tony Benn is a good man who genuinely would like to change the status quo and help the poorer members of society, but he just doesn't have the personality to appeal to the middle classes or the well off business execs, and will never get Labour re-elected.
 

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Corbyn like Michael Foot or Tony Benn is a good man who genuinely would like to change the status quo and help the poorer members of society, but he just doesn't have the personality to appeal to the middle classes or the well off business execs, and will never get Labour re-elected.
If the middle classes even exist then they're the B side as proven by the Brexit vote. He needs to sort his shit out on immigration, a stern immigration only where it's required policy would see him right. He does that then it'll be an easy win.
 

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For some reason he's less trusted than the Tories which is saying something with the state they are running the nation. I hope he can turn it around I really do, but I think it's wishful thinking.
 
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For some reason he's less trusted than the Tories which is saying something with the state they are running the nation. I hope he can turn it around I really do, but I think it's wishful thinking.
Be careful to make assumptions based on market research companies that are owned by people who have reason to manipulate an agenda.
 

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Be careful to make assumptions based on market research companies that are owned by people who have reason to manipulate an agenda.

Despite it being in the interest of the polling companies to be as accurate as possible.
 

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Despite it being in the interest of the polling companies to be as accurate as possible.
But not when the interests of the people who own the polling companies are at threat.
 

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Be careful to make assumptions based on market research companies that are owned by people who have reason to manipulate an agenda.

(Sorry, I think Abertawe missed this one, or the polling companies realised they've been rumbled so sent this one out as a diversionary tactic)
You live in Berkshire. You have no relevance. Not withstanding the question didn't reference Corbyn at any point so you've failed chum.

Government should encourage companies, through measures like taxes and Government contracts, to cap bosses’ salaries at a maximum of 20 times the company average
57% 13% 30%
 
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Oh, so the polling companies are specifically anti-Corbyn rather than anti-left wing ideas?

I'm trying to get to grips with the conspiracy theory, that's all.

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Your imagination knows no bounds. Concentrate on yourself instead of what I think. You got 2016 so utterly wrong it's a wonder you have the nerve to comment further.
 

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The fool even said Wales wouldn't make it out the groups. Know nothing fake welsh person.
 

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You live in Berkshire. You have no relevance. Not withstanding the question didn't reference Corbyn at any point so you've failed chum.

Government should encourage companies, through measures like taxes and Government contracts, to cap bosses’ salaries at a maximum of 20 times the company average
57% 13% 30%

Thar sort of exclusive attitude will really help Labour get the 7% swing they need to win :eye:
 

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No-one will ever trust Corbyn the Socialist Multi-Millionaire.

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Your beloved UKIP boys are made up of earls, bankers and diamond miners in 3rd world countries. LOL

I voted remain in June, voted Labour in 2015 and have never voted for a right of centre or right wing party in my life comrade.
 

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