The League One Relegation Thread 15/16

[Gerald Hattrick]

Believe the Alex have a new owner...???

 

[Football Purist]

Believe the Alex have a new owner...???

Who?
And let's hope he has some serious wonga.

 

[stevie_howard]

I'm surprised our name isn't highlighted yet. Perhaps after todays inevitable defeat.

 

[Crewelad87]

Goes to show pants this league is once again, the fact we now stand a slight chance of staying up.

Fleetwood and Shrewsbury drawing today is a big result for us.

 

[TimeyWimey]

I still don't see us being anywhere close to staying up in May. Nice respite yesterday but we just haven't got the players to do it.

 

[stevie_howard]

Another defeat for Bury today. Printing money at 28/1 to go down.

 

[Football Purist]

Another defeat for Bury today. Printing money at 28/1 to go down.

No,you'll be ok.

 

[TrinidadsNumberOne]

I still don't see us being anywhere close to staying up in May. Nice respite yesterday but we just haven't got the players to do it.

I agree, I don't think we'll go down with a whimper as was first feared but we need to significantly improve our consistency and performances. Winning like that against Rochdale was fine on Saturday when they gifted us goals but expecting that to happen each week is absolute suicide. And I fear that's why we're down, we can't take the game to any opposition.

 

[Hurrikeen]

We're going to have to play 7 games in 21 days.

 

[CFC91]

We're in big do do in my eyes. Massive game against Colchester coming up.

 

[TimeyWimey]

I agree, I don't think we'll go down with a whimper as was first feared but we need to significantly improve our consistency and performances. Winning like that against Rochdale was fine on Saturday when they gifted us goals but expecting that to happen each week is absolute suicide. And I fear that's why we're down, we can't take the game to any opposition.

Yep, similar with the draws. They were/are being mistaken for nearly winning games when it was pretty much the opposite. Three good points gained when it could very easily have been 3 defeats. We're scrapping and getting a few rewards but I look at Barnsley onwards and cannot even fathom a way this set of players can win every 1 in 2 for the last two months, which is probably what will be required, for it to be even worth while considering a "relegation battle". At the very least, at least we (hopefully) won't be sent down at Vale. Small achievement.

 

[Football Purist]

We're in big do do in my eyes. Massive game against Colchester coming up.

On what I saw at Gresty Road your side is poor and should go down.

 

[Football Purist]

We're going to have to play 7 games in 21 days.

Good.Owt that helps us we'll take.
No room for sentiment here.

 

[Buxton Vale]

Yep, similar with the draws. They were/are being mistaken for nearly winning games when it was pretty much the opposite. Three good points gained when it could very easily have been 3 defeats. We're scrapping and getting a few rewards but I look at Barnsley onwards and cannot even fathom a way this set of players can win every 1 in 2 for the last two months, which is probably what will be required, for it to be even worth while considering a "relegation battle". At the very least, at least we (hopefully) won't be sent down at Vale. Small achievement.

You could yet survive. There are several teams doing worse than you and I think that Colchester are already doomed. Most Vale fans would be happy if you stayed up.

 

[Football Purist]

You could yet survive. There are several teams doing worse than you and I think that Colchester are already doomed. Most Vale fans would be happy if you stayed up.

I'm sure they would.
Wouldn't want to miss out on their cup final and all that.

 

[Buxton Vale]

I'm sure they would.
Wouldn't want to miss out on their cup final and all that.

I was thinking more about missing out on a good laugh at the local minnows

 

[Football Purist]

I was thinking more about missing out on a good laugh at the local minnows

Didn't you lot record a gate of 3,200 odd the other night?

 

[mozzavale]

The turnstile counters stopped working

We took 50% of that figure the 55 miles to Wigan 3 days earlier, when was the last time you brought 1500 13 miles down the road to us?

Anyway, you lot got 3,500 home fans on Saturday, what's your excuse?

 

[Football Purist]

The turnstile counters stopped working

We took 50% of that figure the 55 miles to Wigan 3 days earlier, when was the last time you brought 1500 13 miles down the road to us?

Anyway, you lot got 3,500 home fans on Saturday, what's your excuse?

Our excuse is we've been shit all season and were one off the bottom of the table...not sitting halfway-ish with the chance of gatecrashing the play-offs.

 

[mozzavale]

As a lot of Vale fans have said recently, the football we've been playing has been shocking, despite the odd win. Sometimes mediocrity affects people's enthusiasm, especially for midweek games, which are traditionally poorly attended for us. The fact that an additional 1600 Vale fans attended yesterdays match shows that, as it's quite a large percentage increase. If we could produce the kind of performance that we did yesterday on a regular basis, a lot more people would start attending. It's the inevitability, and predictability of it that is frustrating Vale fans at the moment. There are times when we really should be getting excited, like when we go within a point of the playoffs, but then you just know that the players will bottle it next time out. It's happened so many times over the last 3 seasons, it's getting boring now.

In all seriousness I'm not knocking any club for their support, I'm not into all that nonsense. Especially given the price of football these days. We've got just over 3,000 season ticket holders and the home attendance v Swindon was about 3,100. It just wasn't worth shelling the money out for, which I imagine is the case with a lot of your fans at the moment too.

 

[Football Purist]

As a lot of Vale fans have said recently, the football we've been playing has been shocking, despite the odd win. Sometimes mediocrity affects people's enthusiasm, especially for midweek games, which are traditionally poorly attended for us. The fact that an additional 1600 Vale fans attended yesterdays match shows that, as it's quite a large percentage increase. If we could produce the kind of performance that we did yesterday on a regular basis, a lot more people would start attending. It's the inevitability, and predictability of it that is frustrating Vale fans at the moment. There are times when we really should be getting excited, like when we go within a point of the playoffs, but then you just know that the players will bottle it next time out. It's happened so many times over the last 3 seasons, it's getting boring now.

In all seriousness I'm not knocking any club for their support, I'm not into all that nonsense. Especially given the price of football these days. We've got just over 3,000 season ticket holders and the home attendance v Swindon was about 3,100. It just wasn't worth shelling the money out for, which I imagine is the case with a lot of your fans at the moment too.

Yeh,you're quite stop-start with your results,being on the verge of either the play-offs or the relegation zone from week to week.
Our home attendances hold up quite solidly,I feel,considering how poor we've been.
We've a good core of about 3,500 who'll turn up whatever,when you could hardly blame them if they decided to give it a miss.

 

[JJ1532]

Dunno when Vale fans became footballing purists. You turned up in the thousands to watch Micky Adams garbage style of football, so I'm not sure why Page's similar tactics are such a turn off?

 

[mozzavale]

That's the problem for some fans JJ. They're not the same tactics. Micky Adams had our teams playing percentage football feeding off the scraps and fighting for the badge. It worked consistently in L2 with Pope in the form of his life. Our fans bought into the chance of seeing our first promotion in 19 years. It was at times exciting. If our football had stayed with page as it was at the start of the season, decent passing football, but the results to go with it, consistently, then the same thing would happen.

 

[valefan16]

Dunno when Vale fans became footballing purists. You turned up in the thousands to watch Micky Adams garbage style of football, so I'm not sure why Page's similar tactics are such a turn off?

The promotion season Micky had us playing so great stuff. Top scorers in the land with a well score more than you approach to be fair/

 

[stevie_howard]

No,you'll be ok.

I doubt it. Over the last 20 games or so we would be bottom of the league. Whilst Flitcroft is manager relegation is a real possibility.

 

[hold'um Oldham]

I doubt it. Over the last 20 games or so we would be bottom of the league. Whilst Flitcroft is manager relegation is a real possibility.

If that's true when our form is comparable your in serious trouble. Before Shrewsbury in out last game we had only won 3 times all season and not won since 14th Nov. At 1 point we gained a single point from 9 games.

 

[valefan16]

Bury are doing what we did last season only luckily for us we did a few weeks later, we had 48 points with 11 games to play and nearly went down after 6 straight losses and only 1 more win all season (second last game!), can be hard to get out that free fall when your in it, some games just seemed to turn on us Orient away (Red card a penalty when cruising at 1-0 up), battered Swindon and lost 1-0, threw away a 2-1 lead against Crawley, injury time winner for Rochdale, injury time equalizer for Scunny we just couldn't turn it around and were fairly lucky to stay up in the end.

Plenty of time for Bury to stop the rot but it isnt easy.

 

[dedwardp]

I doubt it. Over the last 20 games or so we would be bottom of the league. Whilst Flitcroft is manager relegation is a real possibility.

You wouldn't, you'd be 12 points clear of us with a game in hand - imagine how bad we must have been! Haha. If the season started after you beat us on 3rd October, then the bottom of the table would be;

.............................P / GD / Pts
17 - Fleetwood 17 / 2 / 20
18 - Rochdale 17 / -5 / 20
19 - Crewe 18 / -11 / 20
20 - Shrewsbury 19 / -11 / 19
____________________________________________
21 - Chesterfield 18 / -10 / 16
22 - Bury 17 / -13 / 15
23 - Oldham 16 / -9 / 13
24 - Colchester 18 / -31 / 6

Christ that is depressing.

 

[hold'um Oldham]

We only have that many cos we drew so many between then and the Chesterfield game I mention.

 

[hold'um Oldham]

So a fist full of draws today in the games that matter except shrews who did well to beat blackpool and keep them close. Could have done with them losing that one if I'm honest as we gotta play the seasiders twice yet and it's in our own hands with that one.

Good draw for us considering the opposition and the fact Wigan fans recon we are the best they have seen at the dw is a good sign of continuing improvement.

Crewe are picking up of late and are becoming harder to beat although Colchester are surely dead and buried now.

Bury still have points on their side but are way out of form. They would take the end of season at this point I'm sure. Chesterfield are also struggling.