The midtable thread

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We are perfectly capable of getting relegated from here.
Whats worrying is we appeared in all 3 threads last season. We had a head start!
This season we haven't sniffed at the promotion one and its a lot easier to fall from the midtable one, jeez we are only just clinging on to this thread.
The only good thing is only 2 go down instead of 4!
 

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It's only going to be 2 from the current bottom 6 who drop. No chance will Notts go down.
 

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Yet more confirmation of our credentials - so far this season.

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http://experimental361.com/2016/02/08/scatter-graphics-league-2-6-feb-2016/
 

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I don't know how accurate that chart above is, but surely Northampton should be on the other side of the chart with the other top teams seen as they are top of the league by quite some distance. If it is correct then Northampton are by far the luckiest team in the division. :lol:
 

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I don't know how accurate that chart above is, but surely Northampton should be on the other side of the chart with the other top teams seen as they are top of the league by quite some distance. If it is correct then Northampton are by far the luckiest team in the division. :lol:
It pains me to say - they have a half decent manager, a quality keeper and strikers who take their chances.
 

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Or in other words, we are a boring side, together with Barnet, Crawley, N'pton and Wycombe. OTOH, if you want value for money, you should support one of these sides - Notts, Exeter, Carlisle and Newport.
 

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Or in other words, we are a boring side, together with Barnet, Crawley, N'pton and Wycombe. OTOH, if you want value for money, you should support one of these sides - Notts, Exeter, Carlisle and Newport.
...and so as we're highest in the league out of those sides we can conclude that we're the best team to support in the league. Logic.
 

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Or in other words, we are a boring side, together with Barnet, Crawley, N'pton and Wycombe. OTOH, if you want value for money, you should support one of these sides - Notts, Exeter, Carlisle and Newport.
I wouldn't say we're "boring" - that would go to a side with a quiet attack and quite defence, Shirley? We're just very mid table aren't we?
 

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Interesting graphical representation. Portsmouth's 'shot's faced' is surprisingly low, probably showing how well they defend as a whole team.
 

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I don't know how accurate that chart above is, but surely Northampton should be on the other side of the chart with the other top teams seen as they are top of the league by quite some distance. If it is correct then Northampton are by far the luckiest team in the division. :lol:

Or clinical in front of goal?
 

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Or clinical in front of goal?

To be honest I think you have been massively underestimated this season, no one expected you to be doing so well and even your own fans are shocked by your form too. :thumbs:

I wish we were as efficient as Northampton.
 
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To be honest I think you have been massively underestimated this season, no one expected you to be doing so well and even your own fans are shocked by your form too. :thumbs:

I wish we were as efficient as Northampton.

After all of the years of expecting us to be better, one of the first seasons we weren't expecting much, because of a number of on and off field factors, we are.
Yes, we are all shocked/surprised and as I have said before, some of us are unsure of how to react. It is a nice feeling though but most of us are still expecting us to cock it up in some way. A defeat tomorrow wouldn't be a surprise but it's how we react in the matches following that will be the test.
 

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To be honest I think you have been massively underestimated this season, no one expected you to be doing so well and even your own fans are shocked by your form too. :thumbs:

I wish we were as efficient as Northampton.

Yesterday v Leyton: 7 Shots, 4 on target, 4 goals
 

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Don't expect any more of these crazy games from us, we've brought in a fun sponge.
 

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If we lose on Tuesday I think I'm going to set up camp in here.

We're not quite here permanently just yet, but we're on the verge.
 

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Our defeat on Saturday pretty much confirms (condemns?) us to this thread I'd say. I reckon 74 points would just about see someone sneak in to the play offs. We're on 44 points with 15 games to go so we'd need 2 points per game which just isn't going to happen as we're just too inconsistent.
 

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Our season is over now barring a miraculous losing streak.
 

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Or an even more miraculous winning streak.

Sigh...
 

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Well maybe you should sack your manager then! What exactly has he done for you recently in league football?
Not really as black and white as that. We won't sack him though. He'll leave when he's good and ready.
 

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Not really as black and white as that. We won't sack him though. He'll leave when he's good and ready.

So your club like's continuingly being a mid table nothing team? Even after all the money the club has got from selling players?
 

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So your club like's continuingly being a mid table nothing team? Even after all the money the club has got from selling players?
But who brought us all that money? Tisdale and his nack for developing players earnt us those fees and we have more in the pipeline.

He achieved a lot for us in his first 5 years but since then, not so much. We are better than where we are in the league so if we don't make any significant improvement in our form, a lot of people will be asking questions. I wanted and expected top 7 this season. If we don't achieve it my loyalty to Tisdale will be tested. We don't like being midtable in League 2, but Tisdale has a two year rolling contract and would cost a lot of money to just get rid of.

For me, he's still probably one of the better managers in the league so changing him for the sake of it wouldn't be smart, especially being just the division above the conference.
 

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Tisdale has enough results to justify his position. His track record of financial management and player sale negotiation clearly is of massive benefit to the club. His team selections and signings are somewhat conservative, but I would rather have conservative management and long term stability than erratic short term success.
 

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I would rather have conservative management and long term stability than erratic short term success.

That really is a good point to make, I won't name any clubs but there is certainly one cub at the top of this division who are up there because of this and it's annoying as they get in the way of well run and bigger clubs like ours who do have better long term plans and expect to finish high up.
It makes me wonder how this irresponsibly run club can even attract good players considering they've always been on the brink of going bust lately, well if they do go up I can see them coming straight back down from L1 in no time, no way will they have as much luck up there as they have down here.
 

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That really is a good point to make, I won't name any clubs but there is certainly one cub at the top of this division who are up there because of this and it's annoying as they get in the way of well run and bigger clubs like ours who do have better long term plans and expect to finish high up.
It makes me wonder how this irresponsibly run club can even attract good players considering they've always been on the brink of going bust lately, well if they do go up I can see them coming straight back down from L1 in no time, no way will they have as much luck up there as they have down here.

Although you "won't name any clubs" Who could you be referring to?
"....well run and bigger clubs like ours", which ones?
"....have better long term plans and expect to finish high up", it's sport, expectation is not always matched by results and long term is something to happen in the future, you'll have to wait instead of "expecting to finish high up".
We don't have any doubt that we will probably be everyone's favourites to return IF we are successful this season. We are enjoying what is happening at the moment, we are not expecting anything. Aside from our sojourn to the First Division 50 years ago (this season by the way), we are part of the furniture down here, we do not pretend otherwise, not like some 'other clubs'.
This particular irresponsibly run club (hopefully past tense now) is probably helped in attracting good players by our location being fairly central to everywhere. Not stuck in the extremity of any particular part of the country, which I would believe is a positive factor when lower league players are making decisions? I can't think of any other major positives which makes us more attractive than any other Fourth Division side, can you?
The more we practise, the luckier we get. Probably why our shot conversion is 'luckier' than most?
 

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"....well run and bigger clubs like ours", which ones?
I can't think of any other major positives which makes us more attractive than any other Fourth Division side, can you?

Well we're a bigger club than you for a start and so are most of the other clubs in the top half of this league except for Stanley obviously and maybe Mansfield. As for other reasons a player would want to join you is that they're probably offered an attractive wage that the club can't actually afford, but that's what dodgy clubs do to cheat their way to success.

Your team reminds me a lot of Wycombe last season, they too were expected to struggle but ended up having everything go their way and were able to keep a hold of their manager who back then was quite respected but not anymore since they resulted to dirty tactics. Wilder is a good lower league manager I'll give you that.
 

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Well we're a bigger club than you for a start and so are most of the other clubs in the top half of this league except for Stanley obviously and maybe Mansfield. :brill:
As for other reasons a player would want to join you is that they're probably offered an attractive wage that the club can't actually afford, but that's what dodgy clubs do to cheat their way to success. :10:

Your team reminds me a lot of Wycombe last season, they too were expected to struggle but ended up having everything go their way and were able to keep a hold of their manager who back then was quite respected but not anymore since they resulted to dirty tactics. :pmsl:
Wilder is a good lower league manager I'll give you that.:smug:

My emoticons...:wave:

Well obviously Carlisle and the majority of clubs in the top half are too big for this Division, if I was you I would write to the Football League and inform them that you all should be in a higher division. But you state that the fact you aren't doing better is because of the luck of others? Your turn must be just around the corner, be patient.

Us 'minions' that are left will manage without you as long as you send back the ones in the higher divisions that you deem to be below your elevated stature. I am sure that they will be impressed.
I also like how your associates appear to push you away with the virtual barge pole, have you a social problem?
 

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