The PPV Discussion Thread

[Eamonn]

Oh and really enjoyed Cody/Goldust, nice little story, Cody with only face paint, Goldust not giving it his all not wanting to hurt Cody, Codys anger at chants for him, Goldust winning but reluctantly and then the awesome backstage promo afterwards. Cody is fantastic, hope this story continues. And Cesaro/Kidd as champions is awesome also!

 

[Luke]

Just watched it, haven't read any of the other comments yet.

Not sure what to make of it, can't decide if I was happy enough with what I saw or whether it was a waste of time.

I need food, then I'll decide.

Lol at the British pair with the Russian flag for Rusev.

 

[Leewilson]

From what I've seen, Fast Lane felt like a Mania teaser. Setting feuds for the big event, which I understand in all honesty.

I just wish the crowd weren't so dead. They really ruined what was a tidy event with their non reactions.

The Dust brothers told a slow yet interesting story which hopefully will explode at Mania. I thought the tag match was decent but again can go up a gear at Mania. The IC title was alright but I think both can do better. HHH/Sting was good but the crowd just didn't have the enthusiasm for anything all night. Orton returning sets up a great match at Mania. Main event was alright.

7/10 solid PPV that isn't massively memorable but gives Mania the potential to be if they execute the matches correctly on offer.

 

[Libertine]

Awful crowd. Decent ppv.

Actually happy Reigns won. To change it now would be stupid, no matter how green he is.

Wouldn't say DB 'carried' Reigns, it's more two different styles complimenting each other. Can't see Lesnar v Reigns being an entertaining match though. Most of Lesnar's singles matches since returning have been plodding and repetitive, no matter how awesome he is.

 

[Oaf]

I agreed with that post until you said Lesnars matches have been plodding and repetitive. His match with Taker at last years WM was awful... and when he fought Triple H at Summerslam a couple years back it was a bit shit... but other than that his matches have ranged from being decent (WM 29, but the crowd were shit) to being absolutely outstanding (Cena at Extreme Rules, CM Punk, the triple threat).

 

[Christian Slater]

It's no surprise Lesnar had good matches with people that wrestle frequently and are the best in the industry. Same goes for Reigns last night.

 

[Libertine]

I agreed with that post until you said Lesnars matches have been plodding and repetitive. His match with Taker at last years WM was awful... and when he fought Triple H at Summerslam a couple years back it was a bit shit... but other than that his matches have ranged from being decent (WM 29, but the crowd were shit) to being absolutely outstanding (Cena at Extreme Rules, CM Punk, the triple threat).

I carefully said 'singles' matches as the triple threat was of course awesome, and the ones involving no DQ were all good too. I just find often there is no flow to the matches when it's a simple one on one. Worry it's gonna stink up the place at Mania.

 

[Captain Scumbag]

It's always a challenge when two large blokes with limited movesets have to work a "straight" wrestling match for anything in excess of 15-20 minutes, which is probably what they'll be asked to do at WM. It's why many people wanted a Rollins or Bryan in there, even if didn't make immediate sense in kayfabe.

But I agree they should just stick with Lesnar Vs Reigns now. Hopefully they'll keep it closer to 15 minutes than 20, and hopefully they'll do enough behind the scenes to make it something more than Lesnar just German suplexing Reigns for 14 minutes before the latter makes a miraculous (yet entirely predictable) comeback and wins with a spear.

We'll see, I guess. Given the current card, though, I won't be buying.

 

[Gilly?]

I love Bray Wyatt, I'd imagine a casket match is on the cards?

 

[Captain Scumbag]

^ I chuffing well hope not. Has there ever been a good one?

 

[BigDaveCUFC]

I love Bray Wyatt, I'd imagine a casket match is on the cards?

Casket matches are the 2nd worst match made ever...............only I quit matches are worse.

and Michaels/Taker was decent enough CS, but really that's about it......although I did enjoy Yoko Vs Taker for the utter ridiculous way it went.

 

[mase]

The fire matches are always shite too tbf, the ones with the ring surrounded by fire...

 

[NiallQuinnDiscoPants]

Casket matches are the 2nd worst match made ever...............only I quit matches are worse.

and Michaels/Taker was decent enough CS, but really that's about it......although I did enjoy Yoko Vs Taker for the utter ridiculous way it went.

I Quit Matches involving John Cena are the WORST.

30 mins of him getting beat to death (proper Jack Bauer 24-style torture if i remember rightly by Orton in 2009) and then 1 minute of Shoulder Block/Shoulder Block/Fist Drop/AA/STF and his opponent says I Quit.

*shudder*

 

[sl1k]

Just watched FastLane myself and other than the opening 6 man tag match & the divas, I thought it was a very decent PPV. The crowd was horrible though, really fucked with the atmosphere at times.

Orton made a lively return. the Gold/Stardust segments were alright. Cesaro is finally making some progress.

The angle for Sting v HHH is fairly captivating, though I'd blow my load just to see my boyhood wrestling hero in Wrestlemania action anyway. They do need to do more to cover up his age though, too telling atm.

Ambrose has a title now, which hopefully injects life into the competition for it. Bray had me like OmG wDf for a hot moment, only to make me go 'aaaawwrrrrr rrreally??'.

Solid Cena v Rusev (with a result most people would be happy about) followed by an amazing main event in Bryan v Reigns. I've always been a critic of Reigns and though I am yet to be fully convinced that he is ready to headline WM, he certainly did no harm to the cause. The build up to WM will be interesting, has bags of pottential. can't sleep so will probably end up starting on Raw tonight.

 

[Gilly?]

Still don't like Reigns, he's a fun sponge. His spear is shit too.

 

[Oaf]

Say what you will about Reigns, but you can't go hating on his spear! His spears are fucking brutal/awesome.

I love Bray Wyatt, I'd imagine a casket match is on the cards?

Don't even toy with the idea of this.

 

[way 4 england]

Is Roman gone yet?

 

[Saddlerrad]

Just announced on the WWE app that BNB will defend the IC title in a ladder match at WM. Didn't say who against or how many. Ziggler and Sheamus? Potential for a blockbuster there. Can't help but think a ladder match should have been the culmination of a triple tag team feud or something, but not going to moan at all. Would Bryan stoop as low as the IC title?

 

[Relentless]

Just announced on the WWE app that BNB will defend the IC title in a ladder match at WM. Didn't say who against or how many. Ziggler and Sheamus? Potential for a blockbuster there. Can't help but think a ladder match should have been the culmination of a triple tag team feud or something, but not going to moan at all. Would Bryan stoop as low as the IC title?

Ziggler, Ambrose and Truth at the least going by Raw?

 

[This Charming Mike]

Bryan too I reckon. Can you imagine the two biggest babyfaces on the roster leaving Mania with the US and Intercontinental titles?!

 

[NiallQuinnDiscoPants]

you know what, me being a fan going to watch the show live, i'm super happy about there being a ladder match. never seen one before, probably won't see one again.

but then i just think it's the laziest booking having a ladder match with loads of guys in it and a battle royal with loads of guys in it, just because creative are so shit they can't think of anything for the mid card to do individually.

but yeah. ladder match. wooooooooooooo!

 

[Saddlerrad]

You could theoretically have had some great feuds heading into this WM, but the booking has been poor. Perhaps they are saving it for a big Summerslam or something. Won't hold my breathe though. Ambrose vs Rollins, Ziggler vs Rollins, Orton vs Rollins, Ziggler vs Orton, Orton vs Bryan, Rollins vs Bryan. You could get a couple of big PPV matches out of all those feuds and they would basically be MOTN before shows even started.

 

[Oaf]

Ladder match, YES!

I'm in the same boat at NQDP here. If I wasn't going, I'd be a bit disappointed that a lot of good wrestlers will probably be wasted. But fucking YES, I badly wanted to see a ladder match of some kind live!

 

[RavenBish]

Bryan too I reckon. Can you imagine the two biggest babyfaces on the roster leaving Mania with the US and Intercontinental titles?!

People have wanted those two titles to mean something for ages now...that certainly would help.

People are talking about bad booking already but hardly any shit has actually been made. There's loads of good options for them to go with still.

Lesnar v Reigns. (Rollins cash-in)
Sting v HHH
Wyatt v Taker
Cena v Rusev
Fearless Nicole Bella v Paige
Orton v Rollins - Authority helps Orton win, Rollins' face turn begins and then ends when he steals the title from Reigns at the end resulting in massive cheers from the smarks at Raw after WM.
Andre the Giant thing - Sheamus returns and wins, as a heel then goes after the US/IC title.
BNB v Ambrose v Ziggler v Bryan - ladder match.
Kidd/Cesaro v Usos - opens the show.
Stardust v Goldust - build this feud every week and have it as the pre-match show.

That seems a completely plausible card to me and a good one at that with plenty of scope for
at least 3 really good matches - and intrigue heading forward if Cena/Bryan are mid-card champions - and sets up a Reigns/Rollins feud going forward with Orton the de-facto number one contender aligned with the Authority.

 

[Leewilson]

To be honest, I'm chuffed there's a ladder match.

We've all been card predicting for the past few months and the one thing I've thought is that there seems to be too many touted singles matches. It is lazy booking, but stuff it, it could well steal the show if they get the right participants in.

Personally, I'd have Barrett, Ambrose, Ziggler, Bryan, Sheamus and potentially a wild card like Adrian Neville. It could be the making of him.

 

[Leewilson]

People have wanted those two titles to mean something for ages now...that certainly would help.

People are talking about bad booking already but hardly any shit has actually been made. There's loads of good options for them to go with still.

Lesnar v Reigns. (Rollins cash-in)
Sting v HHH
Wyatt v Taker
Cena v Rusev
Fearless Nicole Bella v Paige
Orton v Rollins - Authority helps Orton win, Rollins' face turn begins and then ends when he steals the title from Reigns at the end resulting in massive cheers from the smarks at Raw after WM.
Andre the Giant thing - Sheamus returns and wins, as a heel then goes after the US/IC title.
BNB v Ambrose v Ziggler v Bryan - ladder match.
Kidd/Cesaro v Usos - opens the show.
Stardust v Goldust - build this feud every week and have it as the pre-match show.

That seems a completely plausible card to me and a good one at that with plenty of scope for
at least 3 really good matches - and intrigue heading forward if Cena/Bryan are mid-card champions - and sets up a Reigns/Rollins feud going forward with Orton the de-facto number one contender aligned with the Authority.

That's a nice card. My one reservation is having Cody and Goldust on the pre show. I think they deserve better than that. Cody in particular has been awesome in recent weeks. If they can't fit it on the card, have them enter the battle royal where their feud can continue there and then give them a big payoff match at Extreme Rules where they're more prominent on the card.

 

[RavenBish]

have the tag-team there then, my only thing was based on which would be a better match. That and you need at least one tag match on the Wrestlemania card. I don't see where the Gold/Star thing is heading really, other than Cody going back to being Cody - as much as I think both are good workers and it's a solid feud.

 

[RavenBish]

Personally, I'd have Barrett, Ambrose, Ziggler, Bryan, Sheamus and potentially a wild card like Adrian Neville. It could be the making of him.

Interesting thought that as you'd assume, debuting someone at Mania would be bad due to lack of reaction etc...but the way Mania is now, the crowd are all up to date with IWC stuff and watch NXT etc etc...he'd get a fucking huge pop in the arena. They have to think about mainstream appeal though I guess - to a casual fan it's difficult to go 'hey, this guy you've never heard of with no build is a big deal, trust us'.

 

[Leewilson]

have the tag-team there then, my only thing was based on which would be a better match. That and you need at least one tag match on the Wrestlemania card. I don't see where the Gold/Star thing is heading really, other than Cody going back to being Cody - as much as I think both are good workers and it's a solid feud.

I'm personally a bit of a Goldust fan though and I've always rated Cody highly so I'm probably biased. But out of sentiment, I'd like Goldust to get a decent WM match before he retires. I know he's not in the same bracket as Undertaker/Sting etc, but when you consider Goldust's age, he wrestles like someone 10-15 years younger than himself. Cody's promos have been superb lately. If it's given the time, it would go down well at WM I think. The general Raw crowd doesn't really appreciate Goldust/Cody as much as an IWC Royal Rumble/Wrestlemania crowd would. I remember 2-3 years ago when Goldust was a surprise entrance at the Rumble and he got one of the pops of the night. Plus, I want to see Shattered Dreams one more time, and I reckon Vince may ok it for the biggest show of the year.

 

[Leewilson]

Interesting thought that as you'd assume, debuting someone at Mania would be bad due to lack of reaction etc...but the way Mania is now, the crowd are all up to date with IWC stuff and watch NXT etc etc...he'd get a fucking huge pop in the arena. They have to think about mainstream appeal though I guess - to a casual fan it's difficult to go 'hey, this guy you've never heard of with no build is a big deal, trust us'.

Fair point. I'm sure they could bend it into a 6 man match and perhaps even have a qualifying spot to a Nxt member. Perhaps a mini 4/8 way tournament on Nxt to find the entrance. Neville wins it and there's your build right there. He would get a great pop and the general crowd watching would be impressed. Can you imagine some of the moves he'll do off of the ladder? He'd steal the show I reckon.