The Stags vs The Gas

[StagsForLife]

Looks like we'll be appealing Pearce's red which is a fair challenge imo.

 

[AdamStag]

Good lord, I'd be interested to see what turbo is like when Bristol lose!

You pay a compliment that the team played to their strengths, and did so well and you still get a strop

 

[miagsygas]

Definitely no need to dry my eyes. Lovely three points away from home in one of our worst performances of the season. Happy days.

The posts of "if rovers have tried to play football with us they would have lost" are the more wet eye worthy posts, they scream sour grapes. We beat you playing the worst we've played all season according to some, imagine what we'd have done if we'd played well

 

[TheGas]

Anyone surprised to see Manafield have had the most yellow cards this season. (32) and the most fouls, by a long way as well?

 

[Amber Nectar]

I think a few people need to chill out a bit.

 

[Alanstag]

Anyone surprised to see Manafield have had the most yellow cards this season. (32) and the most fouls, by a long way as well?

We had a ref come in after a few games who said we should never have had that many, we'd just had some inexperienced and weak refs. Much like yesterday.

I don't often like to blame referees as it's an easy route though yesterdays was up there with the worst, for both sides too which is even more damning. He had no control over the game whatsoever and only fuelled what was a feisty game by giving niggly fouls and cards out. I don't think Easter deserved to be sent of and the second half wouldn't have been so intense if he hadn't.

Rovers were nothing spectacular and just took their one chance in the first half unlike ourselves and that was it in the first half. It's hard to judge after that as the second half descended into chaos and there was no real flow to the game. Our players will go into the reverse game with a fire in their belly though.

 

[Stagat]

Wasn't there but sounds like it was a fiesty one between us and Bristol.

Shame this thread has gone a bit shit though as Bristol are a team I don't mind. Generally a good set of fans on here too tbf.

We've had some links down the years (Barrett, Disley, Clarke, relegation etc) and are similar clubs in many ways so there should really be mutual respect rather than bickering.

I wish Bristol all the best for this season personally.

 

[GasAttacK]

Wasn't there but sounds like it was a fiesty one between us and Bristol.

Shame this thread has gone a bit shit though as Bristol are a team I don't mind. Generally a good set of fans on here too tbf.

We've had some links down the years (Barrett, Disley, Clarke, relegation etc) and are similar clubs in many ways so there should really be mutual respect rather than bickering.

I wish Bristol all the best for this season personally.

Comments like these do make it sound like sour grapes, whether that was the intention or not.

"Bristol looked very poor apart from the first goal, no real threat."
We didn't play anywhere near as well as we have in recent games and that was partly due to the absence of our 2 most creative players Bodin and Gosling. It forced us to not only change personnel but also formation and tactics. This in turn meant we weren't as much of a threat going forward but I think you'll agree that despite having more possession Mansfield created very little and didn't look like scoring either. I don't think Nichols had a meaningful save to make in the entire match.

"We passed them off the park."
You passed the ball around very well for the first half hour but other than a volley from Green after about 30 seconds never cut us open or looked like scoring. After that - and particularly in the second half - your players seemed to be getting frustrated and started to give the ball away more and more often.

"Horrible team and I don't often say that."
Lets be honest, both sides were guilty of some questionable challenges and the ref didn't help matters for either side.

"Mansfield were the better side today from start to finish in every department."
Difficult to agree with that when our keeper had such a quiet afternoon. Yes you played the better football in the first half but there was no end product. I know you had 9 men but we basically battered you for the last 20 minutes after you equalised and it wasn't until at least half way through that period that your keeper and defender got injured in that collision. Given the chances we squandered in that spell we could and probably should have won by more.

"We are a far better side than this Bristol one who seemingly came with a bone to pick and managed to influence a woefully pathetic referee."
I don't think that was the case at all. Most of that team weren't even with us when we went down. It was just one of those days when we couldn't get our passing game going. It certainly wasn't a game plan. Clarke was actually very disappointed with the way we played. You passed the ball better than us in the first half but that does not mean you were by far the better side. How many real chances did you create? how many saves did our kepper have to make? how many goals did you score?

"Had we played them at football - as was clearly obvious today, we would have dicked them all over the park."
We could say the same thing. It was one of our worst performances of the season and we still came away with 3 points. It's easy to say if we'd played like Barcelona we'd have won. We've played so much better than that in recent games. We missed our 2 most creative players Bodin and Gosling.

"Bristol clearly realised if they played football against us they would lose."
Whatever you thought of the game I can assure you it was a game of football and I think you'll find we won. Okay, so you passed the ball around well in the first half but for all that possession what did you have to show for it? You created no real chances and yet we scored a very well worked goal. It's not all about passing in midfield, you have to have a cutting edge, which on the day at least, Mansfield seriously lacked.

 

[ComeOnIrene]

I personally held no grudges towards Mansfield after they sent us down. I feel no bitterness towards their fans whatsoever, but I am shocked by some of the comments they have made about the game yesterday.

I can't believe people think we were the 'horrible' team. It was abundantly clear to most of us in the away end that it was your tactic to be overly physical and niggly at the start of the game. We may have responded in that way and gave us good as we got come the end, but we certainly didn't start off like that as the dirty side of the game doesn't come naturally to most of our players. Matt Green was throwing elbows about like he had feeling in his arms for the first time in his life and the likes of Nicky Hunt and Jamie McGuire hounded the ref ridiculous amounts whenever possible. I mean it was McGuire's sprint to Easter and subsequent crying to the ref that got him sent off, and Hunt was involved in so many different incidents of illegal aggression it was unreal. He could easily have been sent off long before he was and to be honest I think he's a bit of a p***k.

We felt aggrieved for the red card as it clearly wasn't justified and the ref was weak, so perhaps we did try a bit harder to get a reaction out of your lot in the second half. It clearly worked and it highlighted how some of your players have bad tempers - Pearce in particular.

As for the argument that had we tried to play football we would have been comfortably beaten, what an absolute joke that is. You guys looked as if you had something about you and I did think you kept the ball quite well, but you offered nothing up top really and thus became just like a lot of other teams in this division: steady and pedestrian. By no means we were anywhere near our best yesterday - we lost some of our momentum by having a weekend off 7 days ago and without Bodin and Gosling we lacked our two most creative players - but I not once felt as if you were going to outplay us. We created good chances throughout the second half and could/should have won what was a very difficult game in the circumstances 3 or 4-1.

It feels a bit like sour grapes simply because you are having a good year and feel disappointed to lose at home. I don't dislike Mansfield at all and think, for what it's worth, that you will be in and around the play-off race. I just think some of you are being a bit blinkered in your assessment of yesterday's game. Good luck for the rest of the season.

 

[StagsForLife]

I think it's clear we all have a different perception of the game which is okay because everyone has their own opinion, both sets of fans should just move on and look towards Tuesday now as yesterday has been and gone. Good luck with the rest of the season Rovers.

 

[hellogregory]

As for the argument that had we tried to play football we would have been comfortably beaten, what an absolute joke that is.

They say this whoever they play. I went to field mill on the opening day of the season expecting to see all this Tiki taka football after reading posts from some (not all) stags fans. I was fearing for my team to be honest whilst at the same time looking forward to seeing such amazing football live in this country.

I didn't see this wonderful passing football at all. They mix it up which isn't a bad thing and looked well organised on the day. They caused us problems with long diagonal balls, not by "out footballing" us. We actually edged possession against them and were good value for the 1-1.

I've often wondered if this "try and play football against mansfield at your peril" thing is some sort of wind up that their fans have come up with, because a lot of opposing fans seem to miss mansfield's passing masterclasses.

 

[StagsForLife]

They say this whoever they play. I went to field mill on the opening day of the season expecting to see all this Tiki taka football after reading posts from some (not all) stags fans. I was fearing for my team to be honest whilst at the same time looking forward to seeing such amazing football live in this country.

I didn't see this wonderful passing football at all. They mix it up which isn't a bad thing and looked well organised on the day. They caused us problems with long diagonal balls, not by "out footballing" us. We actually edged possession against them and were good value for the 1-1.

I've often wondered if this "try and play football against mansfield at your peril" thing is some sort of wind up that their fans have come up with, because a lot of opposing fans seem to miss mansfield's passing masterclasses.

Sorry we can't all be playing on that Rakish Bingham god level.

 

[hellogregory]

Sorry we can't all be playing on that Rakish Bingham god level.

Well you could be if you hadn't donated him to Hartlepool.

 

[Calstag]

Errm excuse me but no , rovers had absolutely nowt to offer till we went down to 9 , then effectively 7 , if you dint win with more holes in our defence than a broffol then ....... Seriously come on rovers fans yea it was 2 very well taken goals I no but you did look rather clueless till the man advantage ! And then obvious events took adavantage , but please you got away with it on the day , and like I said , when it go's for ya it's sweet and against ........... We all no it's bitter taste !!!

 

[GasAttacK]

I personally held no grudges towards Mansfield after they sent us down. I feel no bitterness towards their fans whatsoever, but I am shocked by some of the comments they have made about the game yesterday.

I can't believe people think we were the 'horrible' team. It was abundantly clear to most of us in the away end that it was your tactic to be overly physical and niggly at the start of the game. We may have responded in that way and gave us good as we got come the end, but we certainly didn't start off like that as the dirty side of the game doesn't come naturally to most of our players. Matt Green was throwing elbows about like he had feeling in his arms for the first time in his life and the likes of Nicky Hunt and Jamie McGuire hounded the ref ridiculous amounts whenever possible. I mean it was McGuire's sprint to Easter and subsequent crying to the ref that got him sent off, and Hunt was involved in so many different incidents of illegal aggression it was unreal. He could easily have been sent off long before he was and to be honest I think he's a bit of a p***k.

We felt aggrieved for the red card as it clearly wasn't justified and the ref was weak, so perhaps we did try a bit harder to get a reaction out of your lot in the second half. It clearly worked and it highlighted how some of your players have bad tempers - Pearce in particular.

As for the argument that had we tried to play football we would have been comfortably beaten, what an absolute joke that is. You guys looked as if you had something about you and I did think you kept the ball quite well, but you offered nothing up top really and thus became just like a lot of other teams in this division: steady and pedestrian. By no means we were anywhere near our best yesterday - we lost some of our momentum by having a weekend off 7 days ago and without Bodin and Gosling we lacked our two most creative players - but I not once felt as if you were going to outplay us. We created good chances throughout the second half and could/should have won what was a very difficult game in the circumstances 3 or 4-1.

It feels a bit like sour grapes simply because you are having a good year and feel disappointed to lose at home. I don't dislike Mansfield at all and think, for what it's worth, that you will be in and around the play-off race. I just think some of you are being a bit blinkered in your assessment of yesterday's game. Good luck for the rest of the season.

Summed it up well there mate.

I was chatting to a couple of Mansfield fans after the game that seemed to have a much more balanced view of the game than many on here. They thought we edged it in the end with all the chances we created after their equaliser and deserved the 3 points. Up to that point they felt a draw would have been a fair result and I think that's probably about right.

 

[Gassy]

Errm excuse me but no , rovers had absolutely nowt to offer till we went down to 9 , then effectively 7 , if you dint win with more holes in our defence than a broffol then ....... Seriously come on rovers fans yea it was 2 very well taken goals I no but you did look rather clueless till the man advantage ! And then obvious events took adavantage , but please you got away with it on the day , and like I said , when it go's for ya it's sweet and against ........... We all no it's bitter taste !!!

Its all well keeping the ball if you don't do anything with it.

Mansfield lost the game themselves, the players/management weren't smart enough, got it to 1-1 and then sat back, got themselves 2 red cards which is just stupid when there's already been one - if that was my team i'd be fuming. Considering you were at home and undefeated there too, I expect us to go defensive and play on the counter. F*** me, this doesn't make us a bad team, it makes us a successful team that knows how to get results on the road - hence why we've only lost 1 away game since September 2014.

The fact is, Bayern Mansfield didn't know how to win the game despite having an extra man for 15 minutes at home, then even with when it went to 10 vs 10, they still couldn't capitalize at home. When they went down to 9, fair play they got one back - and credit to their spirit, but ultimately, couldn't hang on against the lowly Bristol Rovers at home. You got out smarted and out tactic'ed. See you at the Mem where i'm sure it will be a very different game. Good luck for the rest of the season.

 

[AdamStag]

Summed it up well there mate.

I was chatting to a couple of Mansfield fans after the game that seemed to have a much more balanced view of the game than many on here. They thought we edged it in the end with all the chances we created after their equaliser and deserved the 3 points. Up to that point they felt a draw would have been a fair result and I think that's probably about right.

Whereas we didn't test Bristol as we should have done when a man up, I'm interested as to who the fans were who thought you were the better side, either in person outside the ground, in the pub or on stagsnet, I've yet to find one who subscribes to that opinion. Maybe one of the other regulars on here might have that "balanced" view?

 

[TheGas]

1-0 up away from home when it was 11v11 limited the' just like watching brazil ' home side to just one shot on goal... I'll take that every day of the week. We won the game of football and deserved too. Move on. cheers then

 

[GasAttacK]

Whereas we didn't test Bristol as we should have done when a man up, I'm interested as to who the fans were who thought you were the better side, either in person outside the ground, in the pub or on stagsnet, I've yet to find one who subscribes to that opinion. Maybe one of the other regulars on here might have that "balanced" view?

My dad is disabled so we were parked in the main car park and we were talking to a couple of Mansfield fans as I was putting my dads mobility scooter into the boot. They never actually said we were the better side, just that we edged a crazy game and probably deserved the 3 points in the end.

 

[Sergei from IT]

Anyone surprised to see Manafield have had the most yellow cards this season. (32) and the most fouls, by a long way as well?

No - I am not surprised and quite honestly I am beginning to think something should be done about it.

It's OK to suspend a player for collecting 5 yellows but that does nothing to improve the quality of the football in L2.

I believe a team collecting 50 yellows should be deducted 5 or 10 points.

Likewise for red cards ( I notice Mansfield had yet another 2 on Saturday ). A team getting 20 reds should get an even bigger points deduction.

 

[Gashead]

Errm excuse me but no , rovers had absolutely nowt to offer till we went down to 9

Don't go down to 9 then!

Anyway, its done. I'm sure Mansfield will bounce back and we'll hope to carry on our form with some better, less bullying performances at home.

 

[Richard Cranium]

I'm not surprised with our yellow card count. We have already had Trevor Kettle ref us this season

 

[StagsForLife]

No - I am not surprised and quite honestly I am beginning to think something should be done about it.

It's OK to suspend a player for collecting 5 yellows but that does nothing to improve the quality of the football in L2.

I believe a team collecting 50 yellows should be deducted 5 or 10 points.

Likewise for red cards ( I notice Mansfield had yet another 2 on Saturday ). A team getting 20 reds should get an even bigger points deduction.

Haha the irony is that they were our first red cards of the season. Kind of disproves your theory. Either way yes we maybe a little physical but half the yellows shouldn't have stood in which it has been clarified by a official which came in to talk to us.

 

[miagsygas]

Know that this thread had been dead and buried but may be of note that Jermaine Easter's red card has been resinded. No head butt.

 

[Baratheon]

Travesty! It's the intent that he was sent off for.

 

[Gassy]

Doesn't matter - the FL deem that the referee made a mistake and was an incorrect sending off

 

[Richard Cranium]

Doesn't matter - the FL deem that the referee made a mistake and was an incorrect sending off

They made a mistake giving that dick his whistle and cards!