The Tennis thread

[Super_horns]

Into a 5th but Murray has a break.

So was Djokovic..

 

[Leewilson]

To all those who questioned Murray's SPOTY win because he hadn't faced a top calibre opponent, how about winning 3 matches in 3 days after 5 weeks of not playing competitively along with beating the world number 6 in 5 hours? What an athlete.

 

[Super_horns]

So we face Serbia in the quarter finals..

The tie is played sometime between Wimbledon and the Olympics I think - Murray has said he will play but will Djokovic?

 

[Martino Knockavelli]

To all those who questioned Murray's SPOTY win because he hadn't faced a top calibre opponent, how about winning 3 matches in 3 days after 5 weeks of not playing competitively along with beating the world number 6 in 5 hours? What an athlete.

Your pitiable inability to connect ideas into chains and generate logical rhetorical output is even more heartbreaking when expressed in specious, misrepresentative, passive-aggressive subtweet fashion. But keep it up, champ, you're doing God's work.

 

[SALTIRE]

Sharapova calling a press conference for a 'major announcement'. Retiring?

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/mar/06/maria-sharapova-press-conference-tennis

 

[Leewilson]

Your pitiable inability to connect ideas into chains and generate logical rhetorical output is even more heartbreaking when expressed in specious, misrepresentative, passive-aggressive subtweet fashion. But keep it up, champ, you're doing God's work.

Alternatively, you could give Murray credit, especially for the Nishikori victory. Still, I expect you to continue with your patronising elitist waffle. Keep it up, champ!

 

[Martino Knockavelli]

My animus was not and has never been with Andy Murray. It was with your stupid, dewy-eyed hyperbole (and subsequently, and secondarily, your amusing/lamentable attempts at declamatory flourishes).

A higher crustacean would be capable of making of that distinction, and of holding those two related but non-contradictory thoughts in its head. You, apparently, are not, which is a tremendous shame, but does put you in a strong position to wrest away Master Debator's hard earned possession of the MacZidane Memorial Award for Services to Shit Posting in Tennis Threads.

 

[Super_horns]

3rd title for Heather Watson - maybe the start of a solid progressive season?

 

[Leewilson]

My animus was not and has never been with Andy Murray. It was with your stupid, dewy-eyed hyperbole (and subsequently, and secondarily, your amusing/lamentable attempts at declamatory flourishes).

A higher crustacean would be capable of making of that distinction, and of holding those two related but non-contradictory thoughts in its head. You, apparently, are not, which is a tremendous shame, but does put you in a strong position to wrest away Master Debator's hard earned possession of the MacZidane Memorial Award for Services to Shit Posting in Tennis Threads.

Quite simply, I never quoted you initially so I don't know why you've had a hissy fit over it. There were multiple people in the SPOTY thread commenting on how Murray hadn't beaten any top opponents. I was highlighting the fact that he now has and applauding the last few days of tennis.

So shove your elitist pedestal up your arse.

 

[Martino Knockavelli]

Three people commented on the subject on the SPOTY thread. One of them made brief and likely sarcastic reference to the calibre of Murray's opponents. Another made brief and somewhat tangential reference to that specific issue. I was the only person to comment on the topic at length, and I was the only one you responded to. So the target of your misbegotten ire was quite clear. That you're unwilling to wear it having been called out on your serial idiocy means that we can now add cowardly next to imbecilic in your catalogue of winning personality traits.

 

[Master D]

This guy is great, whoever he is. I'm going to follow suit and start running my posts through an online thesaurus before replying as well.

 

[Leewilson]

Three people commented on the subject on the SPOTY thread. One of them made brief and likely sarcastic reference to the calibre of Murray's opponents. Another made brief and somewhat tangential reference to that specific issue. I was the only person to comment on the topic at length, and I was the only one you responded to. So the target of your misbegotten ire was quite clear. That you're unwilling to wear it having been called out on your serial idiocy means that we can now add cowardly next to imbecilic in your catalogue of winning personality traits.

I like how you went back into the thread to check the number of people. I couldn't remember how many people it was, I just remember it being a handful as I was debating the point back and forth with a few.

But since we're on the topic, I've just gone to have a look in that thread and found the following:

This doesn't pass scrutiny.

His singles wins were (w/ current ranking):

vs. Donald Young (#48)
vs. John Isner (#11)
vs. Jo Willy Tsonga (#10)
vs. Gilles Simon (#15)
vs. Thanasi Kokkinakis (#80)
vs. Bernie Tomic (#18)
vs. Ruben Bemelmans (#109)
vs. David Goffin (#16)

His biggest price in any match was 1.178, vs Tsonga. Cumulative odds for all 8 singles matches were 1.804. Even the cumulative odds to win all 8 singles matches and the 3 doubles were only 5.61.

Praiseworthy? Assuredly. But assuredly not a murderer's row either. Such streaks are more the norm than the exception amongst the top chaps in this era of men's tennis (and this wasn't even a streak, either, but a somewhat random sampling of pairs of results spread across 9 months and 3 different surfaces). Murray himself has produced comparable (or better) strings of wins with some regularity.

Yes, he was the only one pulling the rope, and, no, that's not for nothing. But one needs to be ascribing a lot of weight to the hot air and post-hoc narrivatising of "WEIGHT OF EXPECTATION" and "CARRYING THE DREAMS OF A NATION ON HIS BACK" to make this add up to much more than a fella not slipping up whilst beating a bunch of people he should beat.

So I think my comment of:

To all those who questioned Murray's SPOTY win because he hadn't faced a top calibre opponent, how about winning 3 matches in 3 days after 5 weeks of not playing competitively along with beating the world number 6 in 5 hours? What an athlete.

is completely justified since your argument was that he hadn't beaten anybody that he shouldn't beat. I think going in against the World number 6 after 2 matches in 2 days and 5 weeks prior to that of not playing certainly evened the odds and he still managed to win.

But feel free to raid your synonym bank to belittle me as much as you possibly can. It makes me smile.

 

[Martino Knockavelli]

Your contention was that Andy Murray's 2015 Davis Cup run was "an achievement that won't ever be beaten by a British tennis player". This was demonstrably false then, and (incredibly!) beating Taro Daniel, Kei Nishikori or Jesus Christ himself in March 2016 has absolutely no bearing on that fact. Your inability to form and follow cogent lines of logical reasoning is so complete and remarkable that you really ought to consider donating your brain to medical science.

 

[SUTSS]

Sharapova failed a drugs test at the Aussie Open.

 

[GodsGift]

Why is this only being announced now?

 

[SUTSS]

Also seems strange that she is announcing rather than the governing body or the anti-doping agencies

 

[Krazy8]

Why is this only being announced now?

There are cyclists being found guilty from about 1873 these days. This was supersonic by anti doping standards

 

[Leewilson]

Your contention was that Andy Murray's 2015 Davis Cup run was "an achievement that won't ever be beaten by a British tennis player". This was demonstrably false then, and (incredibly!) beating Taro Daniel, Kei Nishikori or Jesus Christ himself in March 2016 has absolutely no bearing on that fact. Your inability to form and follow cogent lines of logical reasoning is so complete and remarkable that you really ought to consider donating your brain to medical science.

I wasn't commenting on that strand of my argument you imbecile.

I may be biased but I can't overlook Murray. Winning 11 out of GBs 12 matches in the tournament. Coming up against some excellent players in consecutive days and burdening the entire weight of expectation. I just think it's an achievement that won't ever be beaten by a British tennis player.

My comment in this thread was surrounding the bold part which you (and possibly 1-2 others) argued. You then posted the run of players Murray faced (which I quoted above) to combat this aspect. I didn't mention anything in this thread about the achievement not ever being beaten by a British tennis player. That was a debate I had in the SPOTY thread. That was not where I was going with my original post in here.

Just to repeat in case your over-enthusiasm to use big words is restricting the rest of the brain.

My first post in this thread was aimed at the caliber of player Murray had and did face. Not to do with the any the fact I think it won't ever be beaten again by another Brit.

 

[mnb089mnb]

It's not about the racket.

 

[Super_horns]

Also seems strange that she is announcing rather than the governing body or the anti-doping agencies

Its a bit unfortunate that she is Russian given the current suspicious on that country in other sports!

Sharapova claimed she'd be using the drug since 2006 for health reasons so clearly its just being caught out not looking at an updated list of banned substances rather than trying to cheat as such.

 

[mnb089mnb]

Its a bit unfortunate that she is Russian given the current suspicious on that country in other sports!

Sharapova claimed she'd be using the drug since 2006 for health reasons so clearly its just being caught out not looking at an updated list of banned substances rather than trying to cheat as such.

Clearly...

 

[SUTSS]

That's an awfully convenient excuse.

 

[Stevencc]

I'd still make violent love to her.

 

[SALTIRE]

I'd still make violent love to her.

She's as emotionless as a robot, she'd probably be injecting her steroids while you were pummelling away - not that you'd care mind!

Gone completely off her over the last five years, she is just a machine, a machine that need some illegal maintenance to perform to its screeching best.

 

[DarkSithLord]

So do we think Djokovic will play in the Davis Cup Quarter Final?

 

[mnb089mnb]

I'd still make violent love to her.

I'm sure that will be a comfort to her during these difficult times.

 

[mnb089mnb]

Considering the athleticism and youth required to be a world-class tennis player, I think I'd probably have sex with any of the top 1000 ranked women's tennis players in the world.(obviously within the age of consent limits).

I'd imagine that the feeling would not be mutual for the vast majority of them. And arranging it all would be problematic at best.

 

[Stevencc]

Would the love be violent?

 

[The Iron]

Even Serena Willams mnb

 

[mnb089mnb]

Even Serena Willams mnb

Especially Serena Williams.