there's an election

[Captain Scumbag]

Look, I can tolerate the usual lefty claptrap about Tories eating babies and Britain being to blame for everything, but I draw the line at Kentophobia. Sickening to read such brazen expressions of it on this once-great forum.

The Garden of England has produced some of Britain’s greatest treasures: Charles Dickens, Christopher Marlowe, Nigel Farage, Bob Holness, Melanie and Martina from Funhouse, me.

Have you people any decency? Any respect?

I have reported the guilty parties to Minsterman, who will hopefully justify his position (for once) and ban the stinking lot of them.

 

[Look Out There Are Llamas]

I think I'm ready for bed. Had to Google 'Kentophobia' before it clicked. Fml.

 

[TheMinsterman]

Look, I can tolerate the usual lefty claptrap about Tories eating babies and Britain being to blame for everything, but I draw the line at Kentophobia. Sickening to read such brazen expressions of it on this once-great forum.

The Garden of England has produced some of Britain’s greatest treasures: Charles Dickens, Christopher Marlowe, Nigel Farage, Bob Holness, Melanie and Martina from Funhouse, me.

Have you people any decency? Any respect?

I have reported the guilty parties to Minsterman, who will hopefully justify his position (for once) and ban the stinking lot of them.

Banning is too good for their ilk.

Each of them will be forced to take a walk of penance through Kent and not a single umbrella will be issued as they face the terror of inclement weather. These monsters must pay.

 

[Son of Cod]

Look, I can tolerate the usual lefty claptrap about Tories eating babies and Britain being to blame for everything, but I draw the line at Kentophobia. Sickening to read such brazen expressions of it on this once-great forum.

The Garden of England has produced some of Britain’s greatest treasures: Charles Dickens, Christopher Marlowe, Nigel Farage, Bob Holness, Melanie and Martina from Funhouse, me.

Have you people any decency? Any respect?

I have reported the guilty parties to Minsterman, who will hopefully justify his position (for once) and ban the stinking lot of them.

Wait...you're English? I always thought you were Scottish?? Now I have to go back and read your entire back catalogue in a different accent. Especially the angry ones.

 

[Look Out There Are Llamas]

I always imagined Scumbag and Mr Goode to sound like my mums oldish Tory middle England cousin from Nottinghamshire.

 

[Captain Scumbag]

Wait...you're English? I always thought you were Scottish?? Now I have to go back and read your entire back catalogue in a different accent. Especially the angry ones.

I was born in Chatham but my parents escaped to the Scottish Highlands in the early 1980s. I’ve lived in fair Caledonia since the age of two, which probably accounts for my sarcy sense of humour, borderline alcoholism and cheerless worldview.

The accent is a bit mixed but it undoubtedly becomes less refined and debonair (read, more Scottish) when the red mist descends. Continue to imagine me sounding like Malcolm Tucker – or whatever angry Scotsman pop culture reference you use – if it suits.

 

[Jockney]

I remember, back when I was in my teens, Scumbag lent me a copy of The Act of Killing and then wrote me a very angry PM demanding it back after I'd kept it six months. There were definitely a handful of och's and cannae's and threats to give us a Glasgae Smile, so I'd take that English talk with a pinch of salt. He is a unionist, though so maybe aspirational English.

 

[Son of Cod]

Continue to imagine me sounding like Malcolm Tucker – or whatever angry Scotsman pop culture reference you use – if it suits.

Begbie.

 

[The Paranoid Pineapple]

Colossal Tory landslide incoming imo. There's always a nasty shock and this is the only possible one imo. Mass collective cold feet on Thursday.

"In the quiet of the polling booth..." *shiver*

Abandon hope all ye who enter.

After a disconcerting recent bout of optimism, I'm now firmly back in full on dread mode so far as this election is concerned. I've just got an awful feeling that Labour will rack up votes in safe seats and the Tories will effectively target marginals and emerge with a huge great majority. Doesn't help that I keep immersing myself in lots of nonsense people are saying online (not here, elsewhere), which probably amounts to little more than rumour and hearsay. Quite a large part of me is quite happy I feel this way though. Feel reasonably prepared for the inevitable CRUSHING DISAPPOINTMENT.

 

[Look Out There Are Llamas]

Was always going to be that way though Tee Pee Pee.

 

[Captain Scumbag]

Begbie.

Groundskeeper Willie is probably closer to the mark.

I remember, back when I was in my teens, Scumbag lent me a copy of The Act of Killing and then wrote me a very angry PM demanding it back after I'd kept it six months. There were definitely a handful of och's and cannae's and threats to give us a Glasgae Smile, so I'd take that English talk with a pinch of salt. He is a unionist, though so maybe aspirational English.

Virtually none of this is true. You even got the name of the film wrong, you glaikit wee fud.

 

[Alty]

Begbie.

I've always imagined him sounding exactly like Fraser Nelson.

 

[.V.]

I think it all depends on the under 25s, and historically, they've not had a good record of turning out. Have they learnt from Brexit? I'm not sure.

My predicton the last couple of days has been around the 46 mark, but now I'm plumping for 67. Hopefully the yoof vote will turn out and make it much much closer, and that there are few shy Tories in the polls this time round.

 

[Benji]

Right wing media going all out now. Accusations of Corbyn being a terror apologist tomorrow. Wonder how they square that with Theresa May's actual sale of arms to supporters or terror.

This is just obscene. https://twitter.com/SimonNRicketts/status/872214917432193026

 

[The Jovial Forester]

Right wing media going all out now. Accusations of Corbyn being a terror apologist tomorrow. Wonder how they square that with Theresa May's actual sale of arms to supporters or terror.

This is just obscene. https://twitter.com/SimonNRicketts/status/872214917432193026

Just seen that. Not sure it'll work, they broke too early chucking all sorts at Corbyn from the off and his ratings have actually improved throughout. Looking at the wording of the Sun story there's not going to be some genuine bit of news.

 

[The Paranoid Pineapple]

Yes, I would have thought most had got the "Corbyn terrorist sympathiser" memo from the right wing press by now.

Still though.... the fucking state of those front pages. Will never know how anyone can feel good about being British while this crap passes for the national discourse.

 

[BigDaveCUFC]

I personally don't think the media currently will have the effect on this campaign.....it got so personal a long time ago i think most people just frankly ignore what they say as bias anyway.

If Labour lose this election they can firmly point blame at their MP's, the 2 attempts to discredit Corbyn did tremendous damage and just made him look weak, add in the fact when Election started most (Wales especially) would not even acknowledge the guy) and on top of that many quit and pretty much said he's worthless.

If i were honest I'd not want in charge the next few years......Brexit could well cripple whoever handles it for years to come, it is a double-edged sword and really there is no solution that will work for most people. A Great day for Corbyn tomorrow will probably be to lose, but lose at about the same margin as we currently have......he'd also possibly won back more support from his party and general perception of him will be better than it was, then he could just allow the Tories to collapse and split over Brexit.

Saying that Corbyn is also to blame for the total lack of support from his party. He's come across passionate in this election, he was none-existant during the EU referendum, probably tactical because he secretly wanted out of the EU, BUT a leader has to look like a leader and during the EU referendum he was hopeless.

 

[BeesKnees]

Right wing media going all out now. Accusations of Corbyn being a terror apologist tomorrow. Wonder how they square that with Theresa May's actual sale of arms to supporters or terror.

This is just obscene. https://twitter.com/SimonNRicketts/status/872214917432193026

What the papers actually mean is if May doesn't win then Levison 2 continues and we get a genuine body controlling the press.

 

[BigDaveCUFC]

There is also a factor people still keep forgetting in this election..........those 4 million lost Lib Dem voters.

In the last election Lib Dems had 4 million less voters, Tories only gained about 700,000, Labour gained nothing, SNP was 1,000,000 up. UKIP of course rose by 3,000,000

You could argue Labour lost 6-700,000 to the SNP, but they gained that amount from Lib Dems, Tories lost 2,000,000 from UKIP, but gained maybe 3,000,000 from the Lib Dems.

There is a good chance that 2,000,000 may go back to Tories, but no guarantee that 3,000,000 lib dems stay with the tories, a large chunk of the stuff the tories putting out this campaign won't sit well with traditional Lib Dem voters.

 

[Habbinalan]

 

[Dave]

Well, if we're trying to out-Tory one another how about this for Conservative hegemony:

2005

2010

2015


Last time out Cons returned a 20k+ majority in all eleven constituencies in Surrey, bar one, where err... UKIP were second although tbf, this was hugely aided by a massive collapse in the Lib Dem vote, who had previously been second in every seat.

I think it'll be all blue in Kent again.

Not quite the 20k+ majority here, I think one or two were within around 5k but most over 10k and a lot of UKIP in the 2nd place as well, I can't see that happening this time though!

I'm currently working in Scotland, it's very split in my office. Majority are voting SNP 1st or 2nd choice and then most seem to be Labour as another choice. There are talks of some Conservative voters switching to vote Labour in an attempt to boost them over SNP. I was trying to listen why but I struggle with the language up here.

 

[Stevencc]

What, English?

 

[blade1889]

I think it all depends on the under 25s, and historically, they've not had a good record of turning out. Have they learnt from Brexit? I'm not sure.

My predicton the last couple of days has been around the 46 mark, but now I'm plumping for 67. Hopefully the yoof vote will turn out and make it much much closer, and that there are few shy Tories in the polls this time round.

I'm not too sure I buy into the liberal U25s vote thing.

If you look at the stats I imagine that the further through education you are then the more likely you are to vote remain and for a more 'left' party. I also imagine that most university students get out and vote. These combined potentially means that U25s appear to prefer the more left-wing ideals but actually it's more a case that it's the more educated left-wing students voting, as opposed to all U25s feeling that way.

I see YouGov aware predicting a hung parliament whilst Labours own polling apparently suggests a 40-50 seat majority for the Tories!?

 

[Jockney]

I'm not too sure I buy into the liberal U25s vote thing.

If you look at the stats I imagine that the further through education you are then the more likely you are to vote remain and for a more 'left' party. I also imagine that most university students get out and vote. These combined potentially means that U25s appear to prefer the more left-wing ideals but actually it's more a case that it's the more educated left-wing students voting, as opposed to all U25s feeling that way.

I see YouGov aware predicting a hung parliament whilst Labours own polling apparently suggests a 40-50 seat majority for the Tories!?

I don't know what their sampling range is like, but polls I've seen show that 18-25s are backing Labour up to 71 per cent. Tories only 15. Only a percentage of those will vote, but the yoot seems overwhelmingly opposed to this Conservative government at least.

 

[blade1889]

So I see Diane Abbott has been axed. Good move labour and Corbyn, no messing around and coming across as more strong than May.

Edit: just seen the 'Ill health' reason given. Whatever that may be, if true, then good luck to her.

 

[The Eyes of Self Actual]

So I see Diane Abbott has been axed. Good move labour and Corbyn, no messing around and coming across as more strong than May.

 

[Mr. Scruff]

Voting by proxy for the first time since leaving England. Voting Labour but think I'd be most happy with a tiny Conservative majority. One or two sould be perfect.

It would destroy their mandate for brexit, making May much weaker in the process but they would still have to struggle on for at least a few years , allowing brexit to do the damage it will inevitably cause to the economy. But without the votes to seriously damage civil liberties make further savage cuts.

Hopefully would damage the Tories enough for successive Labour governments.

 

[Pilgrim Meister]

Labour battling hard in Plymouth Sutton and Devonport. Very good chance of labour taking that seat

 

[Dave]

Doesn't really mean anything but surprised to see these results on voteforpolicies.org.uk

 

[Bobbin']

So I see Diane Abbott has been axed. Good move labour and Corbyn, no messing around and coming across as more strong than May.

Edit: just seen the 'Ill health' reason given. Whatever that may be, if true, then good luck to her.

It's obviously not true and it's only 'temporary'.

Expect her to have made a miraculous recovery on Friday morning should Labour win.