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Finding out that Daniel Pelka's 'mother' died in her prison cell yesterday.

Now, I'm not one to grab my torch and pitch fork and declare that she should have been hanged or made to starve like Daniel did but the story of what she and her disgusting partner did to that boy I found very harrowing to read and I remember getting quite upset when I first read about it.

As a parent myself I just don't understand how anybody could do such vile things to their own child or any child for that matter.

If there's a hell then I hope she's there.

I'm glad to finally see a parent's view on this. I had absolutely no idea how to judge someone who had starved and murdered their child, having never fathered one myself.

What a fucking relief.
 

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Zhenyuanlong suni !!!! Very much approve of the dinosaur in drag look that it's going for

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I'm glad to finally see a parent's view on this. I had absolutely no idea how to judge someone who had starved and murdered their child, having never fathered one myself.

What a fucking relief.
He's not implying that people without kids can't empathise or understand. He's saying for example that when a child is murdered other parents might think ' I've got a kid, it could have been my kid'. I don't think Dave was trying to diminish how people without kids feel about these things.
 

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As someone who isn't a parent I feel you may have been Whoosed!
 

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I'm glad to finally see a parent's view on this. I had absolutely no idea how to judge someone who had starved and murdered their child, having never fathered one myself.

What a fucking relief.

He's not implying that people without kids can't empathise or understand. He's saying for example that when a child is murdered other parents might think ' I've got a kid, it could have been my kid'. I don't think Dave was trying to diminish how people without kids feel about these things.

I was going to reply but Red said it all for me.

There was no need for that response to such an upsetting subject.
 

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Alex Bellos's Monday maths puzzle in the Guardian.
 

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Double pie, mash and liquor is a key ingredient for Dagenham away.
 

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It's making me think about going to our friendly today but I think the pie & mash shop is usually shut for the summer.
 

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It's making me think about going to our friendly today but I think the pie & mash shop is usually shut for the summer.
Surely they can't all be closed? We usually go to Brook's for convenience but Heath's was good as well. It's a once or twice a year treat for me. As a connoisseur, do you have any recommendations?
 

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I only ever go to Brook's and they usually close for a couple of weeks around now. As I don't live in Dagenham, and haven't done for about 10 years now, my local knowledge is pretty poor. I think I know where Heath's is though.
 

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Honestly, I had to Google to see what the fuck liquor is. Thought you meant mushy peas, that's what it look a bit like on the photo.

Anyway, anything with parsley in it is the devils food.

Gravy and peas are the only things you should be having with a pie and mash.
 

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Honestly, I had to Google to see what the fuck liquor is. Thought you meant mushy peas, that's what it look a bit like on the photo.

Anyway, anything with parsley in it is the devils food.

Gravy and peas are the only things you should be having with a pie and mash.
Don't knock it till you've tried it. Pie, peas and gravy, even better pudding, peas and gravy (no mash), probably have the edge but these southern softies convinced me that liquor counts as salad (and the pies are tiny) - so it's my healthy eating option.
 

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Pie, mash and liquor is food from the gods.
 

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I've never heard of 'liquor' meaning anything other than a spirit alcoholic drink.
 

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