w/e 10th September 2022

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I get it that everything will close down on the day of the funeral, but if that's Monday 19th September, do the "authorities" expect everybody to stop living their lives for ten days? Such a move will likely be counterproductive and build resentment, or frustration, in many, rather than deference. Some people won't like the sound of that, but that's the reality of the world we live in today. People have had lock downs and their lives put on hold over the last couple of years, and I really don't think a ten day period with nothing happening is the most sensible option.

Respect should be shown, of course, but it should be people's choice, not something forced for an extended period. I actually think that allowing people to go to football (and other events) this weekend could be cathartic and would allow fans to show their respects together, as the West Ham fans did last night. Surely that is a far more powerful thing than locking everything down for ten days?
 

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I get it that everything will close down on the day of the funeral, but if that's Monday 19th September, do the "authorities" expect everybody to stop living their lives for ten days? Such a move will likely be counterproductive and build resentment, or frustration, in many, rather than deference. Some people won't like the sound of that, but that's the reality of the world we live in today. People have had lock downs and their lives put on hold over the last couple of years, and I really don't think a ten day period with nothing happening is the most sensible option.

Respect should be shown, of course, but it should be people's choice, not something forced for an extended period. I actually think that allowing people to go to football (and other events) this weekend could be cathartic and would allow fans to show their respects together, as the West Ham fans did last night. Surely that is a far more powerful thing than locking everything down for ten days?
No - they expect you to be good little subjects and do as you're told.
 

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I get it that everything will close down on the day of the funeral, but if that's Monday 19th September, do the "authorities" expect everybody to stop living their lives for ten days? Such a move will likely be counterproductive and build resentment, or frustration, in many, rather than deference. Some people won't like the sound of that, but that's the reality of the world we live in today. People have had lock downs and their lives put on hold over the last couple of years, and I really don't think a ten day period with nothing happening is the most sensible option.

Respect should be shown, of course, but it should be people's choice, not something forced for an extended period. I actually think that allowing people to go to football (and other events) this weekend could be cathartic and would allow fans to show their respects together, as the West Ham fans did last night. Surely that is a far more powerful thing than locking everything down for ten days?
There is an equilibrium. With prince philip the press was accused of going overboard and going over and over about his death on every channel. I think towards the end people felt ( me included ) - come on, move on.
The same will undoubtedly happen here. I’ve already turned the radio off as it’s repeated the same guests and presenters saying the same things over and over again.
Let football and life continue.
Whenever the funeral is - then rightly we should shut down for the day, including shops and businesses.
 

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It would be an utter disgrace to call this weekends games off. A decision is still currently yet to be made and we're what, less than 30 hours until kick off. Supporters up and down the country have already made arrangements and spent a decent amount of money on tickets and travel and not forgetting those who might have already organised days off and therefore missing out on pay if they're self employed. Let's not forget about the pubs and restaurants in and around the football stadiums themselves that are in need of money spent in them in these tough times economically.

A minutes applause followed by the national anthem and the wearing of black armbands is enough to show respect without messing up peoples lives and livelihoods.
 

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It's not just about paying respects, mourning, carrying on regardless, enjoying life. There are also the practical elements and logistics. All public and quite a few private sector organisations have an Op Bridge response plan. This will include Police, Medical, transport, Armed Forces, hospitality sectors etc etc.

These will all include a massive surge of resources and workforce to the capital not just for the day of the funeral but in the lead up. This will impact on the safety cases of hosting not just the match you want to see but all games and all other public events across the country.

Sometimes you have to see the strategic complexity to fully appreciate why some decisions are made. This is a State Funeral for a Head of State like no other that has come before, the World will be descending into the UK and particularly London. It's not just about curtailing us enjoying ourselves.
 

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I know one of the reasons that The Tour of Britain cycling race has been cancelled is due to policing. I assume that would be a factor in this decision too.

Its all or nothing in my view, the games that go ahead when everything else is cancelled will have a massive backlash (hello Catalan Dragons) so erring on that side will probably see a blanket cancellation
 

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Reading the BBC fixture list shows that the few games today in UK have been cancelled but none on Saturday.
 

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It's not just about paying respects, mourning, carrying on regardless, enjoying life. There are also the practical elements and logistics. All public and quite a few private sector organisations have an Op Bridge response plan. This will include Police, Medical, transport, Armed Forces, hospitality sectors etc etc.

These will all include a massive surge of resources and workforce to the capital not just for the day of the funeral but in the lead up. This will impact on the safety cases of hosting not just the match you want to see but all games and all other public events across the country.

Sometimes you have to see the strategic complexity to fully appreciate why some decisions are made. This is a State Funeral for a Head of State like no other that has come before, the World will be descending into the UK and particularly London. It's not just about curtailing us enjoying ourselves.
This, basically.

Those resources might not be as affected in Lincoln, Cheltenham, Bolton or wherever but then you get a situation where you get isolated games being played and anything around London being called off.

Just read that Government advice is no games this weekend, but it's being left up to the PL/EFL/NL. I can't see how the EFL can cancel tonight's game but let tomorrows go ahead tbh (although it would be very EFL if they did).
 

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If they are going to (and I don’t think they should) cancel them then they should do it asap. Not fair on those who may have travel arrangements/overnight stops in place to leave the decision hanging.
 

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Great I'll lose my train fares and hotel costs, bag of wank
 

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Confirmed all off
 

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Going to mean a quite significant drop in gate receipts for some clubs as looking down the fixture list there’s a few that would have taken good followings tomorrow but you’d expect less so in midweek.

Will have to see about the Tuesday fixtures now and then next Saturday will be leading into her funeral.
 

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Going to mean a quite significant drop in gate receipts for some clubs as looking down the fixture list there’s a few that would have taken good followings tomorrow but you’d expect less so in midweek.

Will have to see about the Tuesday fixtures now and then next Saturday will be leading into her funeral.
And then there's seven days of official mourning which will cover the following weekend. Might be ok to kick a football again by around 27th September.
 

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Honestly this has annoyed me a little. I'm a fan of the Queen may she rest in peace and I like the Royal Family who form part of the identity of our country but this seems to make little to no sense - if you stop some things you should stop everything.

Instead it appears we are expected to go to work and carry life on, yet the things that actually allow us to unwind and get away from it are cancelled. So essentially go to work and then sit at home and act glum all weekend. Backwards.

FWIW I have no real preference if they were to choose to carry on or stop everything - just whichever way forward you choose you have to go full hog and not half way between the 2!
 

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And then there's seven days of official mourning which will cover the following weekend. Might be ok to kick a football again by around 27th September.
Our club has said that Tuesday games will be played.
Interestingly the Exeter Chiefs are playing tomorrow
 

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I think Tuesday will proceed but Saturday next week may not, the reason being there could be policing issues with the funeral and demand for resource in London.

If this does become an issue they should decide early for everyone.
 

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Our club has said that Tuesday games will be played.
Interestingly the Exeter Chiefs are playing tomorrow
What the feck is the point of cancelling all weekend games and playing Tuesday? I despair at the tosser running football in this country I really do! Rugby seems to have taken a more pragmatic, yet respectful approach. I think the time has come to scrutinise the idiots running football now, so out of touch with the great fans of this game!
 

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I think Tuesday will proceed but Saturday next week may not, the reason being there could be policing issues with the funeral and demand for resource in London.

If this does become an issue they should decide early for everyone.
I am feckin dome with this shit already! Laughable and actually disrespecting the Queen’s memory now!
 

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What the feck is the point of cancelling all weekend games and playing Tuesday? I despair at the tosser running football in this country I really do! Rugby seems to have taken a more pragmatic, yet respectful approach. I think the time has come to scrutinise the idiots running football now, so out of touch with the great fans of this game!
Cynically I thought that the Rugby Premiership waited until the football announcement and thought there's an opportunity to get bigger exposure. Or is that just me...
 

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What the feck is the point of cancelling all weekend games and playing Tuesday? I despair at the tosser running football in this country I really do! Rugby seems to have taken a more pragmatic, yet respectful approach. I think the time has come to scrutinise the idiots running football now, so out of touch with the great fans of this game!

Pathetic PR stunt.

I’m supposed to be at Trent Bridge next Saturday for the cricket one day cup final and I’ll be royally pissed off if that doesn’t go ahead. Pun intended.
 

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Pathetic PR stunt.

I’m supposed to be at Trent Bridge next Saturday for the cricket one day cup final and I’ll be royally pissed off if that doesn’t go ahead. Pun intended.
Yeah it’s all Fat Cat tosser s Virtue Signalling wildly, whilst us poor Plebs better tow the Party line or else!

Becoming seriously disillusioned with the running of football in this country, it seems every decision made is a PR stunt and never about the poor bastards that actually support the game.
 

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Cynically I thought that the Rugby Premiership waited until the football announcement and thought there's an opportunity to get bigger exposure. Or is that just me...
You could well be right there!

However fair play to them, they have made a much better decision than the pricks running football.
 

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All the Welsh rugby is off! Clearly the Welsh are more royalist then the English…

Anyway probably better for us not playing at Peterborough given all our injuries. We were likely in for another spanking.
 

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All the Welsh rugby is off! Clearly the Welsh are more royalist then the English…

Anyway probably better for us not playing at Peterborough given all our injuries. We were likely in for another spanking.
True, well get that Tuesday then.

Wales seems to like being told what to do and shutting stuff down, it was the same with Covid, they were always the first to lock everything at the drop of the hat. Similar mentality here I think.
 

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Pathetic PR stunt.

I’m supposed to be at Trent Bridge next Saturday for the cricket one day cup final and I’ll be royally pissed off if that doesn’t go ahead. Pun intended.

If it’s any guide the test match and the womens T20 will get under way tomorrow so based on that would think the final will go ahead as planned.
 

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The rugby/cricket being on and the football off makes no sense. Either you call off everything or nothing. Most people can reluctantly accept it if it’s everything that goes, but if it’s just football then it’s gonna annoy people.

Once again a shambolic lack of leadership from the government.
 

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The rugby/cricket being on and the football off makes no sense. Either you call off everything or nothing. Most people can reluctantly accept it if it’s everything that goes, but if it’s just football then it’s gonna annoy people.

Once again a shambolic lack of leadership from the government.

Government gave everyone the go ahead to play, it's the wet flannels in charge of the PL/EFL that have bottled it.
 

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