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Not sure it was a freak result. Walker kept the score down. If you had scored five or six I think it would have been a fair reflection.

We can't create. Keep Cook quiet and we don't have anything outside of Pointon. Just loads of cloggers with very limited ability. No pace. No creativity. Nothing.

I agree there are fair number of Notts fans trying desperately to convince others and perhaps themselves that we were a little fortunate today. Some of the stuff I'm reading is laugahble but that will be because of the awful run of form no doubt..

The 5 mins were freakish but we created loads and not for Walker's heroics it could and really should have been 5. Crowley was the standout quality yet again at Meadow Lane and Jatta can and is a menace.

Definitely not a freak result or even close. Best team won.
 

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I agree there are fair number of Notts fans trying desperately to convince others and perhaps themselves that we were a little fortunate today. Some of the stuff I'm reading is laugahble but that will be because of the awful run of form no doubt..

The 5 mins were freakish but we created loads and not for Walker's heroics it could and really should have been 5. Crowley was the standout quality yet again at Meadow Lane and Jatta can and is a menace.

Definitely not a freak result or even close. Best team won.

Completely agree with everything you've said there. If I were a Notts fan I'd be very happy with that performance.
 

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I agree there are fair number of Notts fans trying desperately to convince others and perhaps themselves that we were a little fortunate today. Some of the stuff I'm reading is laugahble but that will be because of the awful run of form no doubt..

The 5 mins were freakish but we created loads and not for Walker's heroics it could and really should have been 5. Crowley was the standout quality yet again at Meadow Lane and Jatta can and is a menace.

Definitely not a freak result or even close. Best team won.
Oh I agree Viking, definitely deserved the win but that's not to excuse some of our recent performances. We weren't fortunate, Bradford huffed and puffed but we could have scored five or six.
None the less we aren't as good, and Bradford aren't as bad as today's display .
 

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Boring boring vale.
A decent team wins that, sorry Carlisle fans, but even though you were better than us you were still pretty poor.
The goal should’ve stood ( does it even itself out then?)
We won’t go up on this form, we’re only still where we are because everyone else is so shit.
 

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Boring boring vale.
A decent team wins that, sorry Carlisle fans, but even though you were better than us you were still pretty poor.
The goal should’ve stood ( does it even itself out then?)
We won’t go up on this form, we’re only still where we are because everyone else is so shit.

Don’t apologise, we know we’re a really poor team. I thought it was a poor game between two poor teams. Obviously yours was an off day where as ours was the norm.
 

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Boring boring vale.
A decent team wins that, sorry Carlisle fans, but even though you were better than us you were still pretty poor.
The goal should’ve stood ( does it even itself out then?)
We won’t go up on this form, we’re only still where we are because everyone else is so shit.
That’s the lucky thing so far, Walsall aside no one else has really been on good enough form. Crewe like us keep drawing and haven’t really closed the gap much, Doncaster are hit and miss especially at home, Notts had a bad patch before today, MK have lost two in a row you’d fancy them in and Grimsby have lost their last two.

We won’t keep getting away with it, odd one, booing them off after 2 league defeats in 17 games but 1 win in 7. Suppose that’s the only good thing, we are still picking up a point in most games despite being well below the levels we set.
 

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Don’t apologise, we know we’re a really poor team. I thought it was a poor game between two poor teams. Obviously yours was an off day where as ours was the norm.
I thought you were alright, we’ve played poorer sides this season, draw was probably right, Armstrong and Chislett traded blowing 1 on 1s and we hit the bar from a corner (not sure if we hit the post which the swivel shot from a corner second half?). But aside from that you defended well and had like us moments, neither side really had the quality in the final third today. You’ll stay up based on that.
 

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Oh I agree Viking, definitely deserved the win but that's not to excuse some of our recent performances. We weren't fortunate, Bradford huffed and puffed but we could have scored five or six.
None the less we aren't as good, and Bradford aren't as bad as today's display .
Doesn't excuse any bad performance but shouldn't detract from this one either. I'm viewing it in isolation.

Totally agree about us not being as good and Bradford likely not as bad as today's showing, but that's common with these sort of games.
 

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I agree there are fair number of Notts fans trying desperately to convince others and perhaps themselves that we were a little fortunate today. Some of the stuff I'm reading is laugahble but that will be because of the awful run of form no doubt..

The 5 mins were freakish but we created loads and not for Walker's heroics it could and really should have been 5. Crowley was the standout quality yet again at Meadow Lane and Jatta can and is a menace.

Definitely not a freak result or even close. Best team won.
Any midfielder would have been stand out today. yours had the freedom of the park. No tackle or even press to put up with. Having one midfielder who can't run is bad enough but 2 is criminal.
 

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Just seen Tshimanga bagged twice vs Grimsby

Back to haunt them like the VNL days #Yep
Artell didn't complain that the evil spirits had now possessed GTFC instead of STFC, but I can confirm the ghost of VNL past defending was present in the 6 GTFC assists in those 2 goals...
 
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Fair play to Maynard for doing what everyone including my nan on her death bed said he should do and play everyone in their correct position. Amazing what can happen when you’re not trying to play some sort of Poundshop 4d chess.

Bradford lads, wow you were fuckin rubbish, who’s that number 8 I’m better than him.
 

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Unfortunate goal from a Tranmere point of view v Donny .

https://www.skysports.com/share/13277728
The shorts didn’t just fall down by themselves though, there was help from the Donny player. Think most referees would have blown up for a foul there, maybe they play to different rules in the States?The referee was American.
Not that it would have significantly affected the result, another dismal away showing for Rovers.
 

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It certainly was a weird one but think most would play on tbh unless they did think there a foul
 

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There isnt a Swindon fan who was there today who could complain about that performance and result yet Holloway continues to shoot himself in the foot time and time again with his ridiculous comments about the fans. Its about time he shut up and let the team do his talking for him. He's been here 5 minutes and our support will still be there years after his demise.
One fan upset him last week by quite rightly pointing out that we were toothless and had 0 shots on target yet to hear his post match presser you would think the complete fan base had turned against him.
His comments about the pre match protest against THE REGIME as opposed to the team or indeed himself showed a complete lack of understanding about the clubs situation re ownership. He didn't apologise last week and he certainly wont this week. Twat!
 

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Fair play to Maynard for doing what everyone including my nan on her death bed said he should do and play everyone in their correct position. Amazing what can happen when you’re not trying to play some sort of Poundshop 4d chess.

Bradford lads, wow you were fuckin rubbish, who’s that number 8 I’m better than him.

Callum Kavanagh. Been woeful this season.
 

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Armstrong's reaction tells you everything you need to know. Free kick was the correct decision. He barely even complains, just strolls back smiling. He knows it was the right call.

People trying to make out this is a similar situation as last week are clutching at straws. Desperate wind up attempts. Two blatant handballs and a ball way over the line, are no where near the same as a goal ruled out for a foul, which is all about opinion.
Armstrong's reaction is typical Armstrong. He doesn't bitch and moan, as he knows there's no changing a bad call from an official. Do you actually see a foul there? Vale fans on twitter don't, and there are a couple on this very thread who don't see one either.

In fairness, there were 88 minutes left to play at that point. It's not as if it would have been a guaranteed winner, it's just a bad call.
 

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Very comfortable win yesterday. Conditions were farcical but we dealt with it better. Josh March got a silly red card, lost his head at the first bit of stick he got off the away fans and then got two yellow cards in quick succession. Probably should have been more than 2-0 but we take it. Nathan Lowe is a joke though, I'm already expecting him to go back come January 1st. But we certainly aren't a one man team and I believe in this squad and Mat Sadler enough to adapt and go again without him should he go back.
 

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Just seen Tshimanga bagged twice vs Grimsby

Back to haunt them like the VNL days #Yep
Before today he'd scored once against us. Admittedly, that was a match winner in a big early season match but the 4-1 battering we dished out at your place later in the season and subsequent promotion alleviated that somewhat. He's hardly been a thorn in our side.

There isnt a Swindon fan who was there today who could complain about that performance and result yet Holloway continues to shoot himself in the foot time and time again with his ridiculous comments about the fans. Its about time he shut up and let the team do his talking for him. He's been here 5 minutes and our support will still be there years after his demise.
One fan upset him last week by quite rightly pointing out that we were toothless and had 0 shots on target yet to hear his post match presser you would think the complete fan base had turned against him.
His comments about the pre match protest against THE REGIME as opposed to the team or indeed himself showed a complete lack of understanding about the clubs situation re ownership. He didn't apologise last week and he certainly wont this week. Twat!
It's highly likely that this man, just as he was at Grimsby, is in cahoots with your current ownership not just for employment reasons but for his own benefit with a view to financial gain. I hope for your sake that if something nefarious is going on that you're lucky enough to rumble it like we did. Worth pointing out here that Holloway publicly berated our new ownership (widely considered to be the best thing to have happened to our club in decades) for the heinous crime of getting in touch with him pre-takeover to have a chat. The fact that he is publicly criticising opposition to your current ownership is a massive alarm bell to me. You lot need to be looking at who has and is buying shares in your club and try and find out who is meeting with your owners as the similarities between you now and the demise of our old regime are startling.

Onto the match though...fair play Swindon. They were all over us at times and pressed incredibly well to the point that we threw in the towel. An absolute shocker of a performance from us. Rumours of a sickness bug affecting the club and in particular 6 of the players in the starting lineup were apparently ill in the week. Makes sense if that's true but either way no getting away from such a poor showing. Not much else to say on it from me, one I'd rather instantly forget.

Massive good luck to the Swindon fans for the rest of the season who don't deserve any off field problems nor do I want to see you go down.
 

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Well done on your fantastic season my friend
I mean the season after was complete shit and we now get spanked by Walsall, Doncaster and Swindon on the regs and you went to Wembley and then smashed the Conference and are currently three points above us so I guess it all worked out evensish in the end!
 

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Nathan Lowe is a joke though, I'm already expecting him to go back come January 1st. But we certainly aren't a one man team and I believe in this squad and Mat Sadler enough to adapt and go again without him should he go back.
I don't see it happening. He's producing in a team top of the league. It's not like you're struggling. I don't think Stoke will rush him. A mate of mine knows him, says he's a really nice guy, level headed but ultimately wants to be top striker at Stoke. The biggest risk is they decide see what he's like in league 1, with half on eye on potentially being there themselves next season. Strikers rely on confidence. His will be flying at the moment. So think it would be stupid of Stoke to recall him.

Obviously I hope they do, and the keeper, and then appoint Sadler when they sack their manager in a few weeks. That would be a disaster for him, joking aside. Stoke is a graveyard for up and coming young managers.

Have to say, listened to Sadlers interviews either side of our game. Hard to dislike him, seems a really decent bloke. Twat.
 

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I don't see it happening. He's producing in a team top of the league. It's not like you're struggling. I don't think Stoke will rush him. A mate of mine knows him, says he's a really nice guy, level headed but ultimately wants to be top striker at Stoke. The biggest risk is they decide see what he's like in league 1, with half on eye on potentially being there themselves next season. Strikers rely on confidence. His will be flying at the moment. So think it would be stupid of Stoke to recall him.

Obviously I hope they do, and the keeper, and then appoint Sadler when they sack their manager in a few weeks. That would be a disaster for him, joking aside. Stoke is a graveyard for up and coming young managers.

Have to say, listened to Sadlers interviews either side of our game. Hard to dislike him, seems a really decent bloke. Twat.
I really hope you're right. I think the past two seasons of losing our top goalscorer in January (DJ and then Draper) has got us all expecting the inevitable. Lowe is loving it here though - his dad was in the away end too yesterday. Could tell from his first interview that he had his head screwed on, very intelligent and well spoken with plenty of drive. Was talking a couple weeks ago when he won EFL Young player of the month how he wants the Golden Boot, so he almost definitely see's himself here all season.

Yeah Sadler has come in leaps and bounds the past year, really good bloke and really found himself tactically too. Never throws any of his players under the bus, they all love him, and you can tell all the lads get on well too. Seemingly brought back the "no-nobhead" policy too. Can say the same for Darren Moore actually - always came across like a really good guy (though Donny fans may disagree), even if he doesn't 'wow' you with tactically insight.

Lots of rumour our end about us getting Draper back, either as a replacement for Lowe or to supplement him to ease the workload on Jamma. Those two together would be unreal - but Stoke only need to look at what happened to Draper after being recalled this time last year to know whether they should leave Lowe here or not.
 

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I’m not sure what it is about Swindon away that always makes us play so shit there, even the one time that I can remember us winning there we got absolutely battered and fluked a 1-0 win with a penalty that got given to us after Harry Cardwell tripped over his own feet, outside the box, and the ref decided that was enough for a penalty.
Other than that I can’t remember us even getting a draw there anytime just always a loss and always a terrible performance.
 

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I think Walker would be a much better pick to start in midfield against Vale.

Does mean we'll have to start Doyle in net...
Isn't the thing with Bradford that they are a bigger club (fanbase wise) than there budget because of the ownership model ? Or is that too simplistic .

Seems like good managers and players go there and turn bad , get culled and it's just sort of a vicious cycle which has been going on for a while ; maybe I'm well off you guys know more than me but that's how i have seen it over the last few years .
 

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Sounds like you are in a similar rut to what we were in ahead of today, with injuries. We've got all of our key players back now apart from Canavan who we've lost again for a while with a torn groin.

We were looking over our shoulders quite a bit ahead of today but if anyone in that 13th to 18th range can put a run of a few results together they can potentially take themselves out of proceedings at the bottom for good.
Your absolutely right about a team putting together a few good results. The saving grace for Fleetwood is this dreadful run is taking place now, and not at the end of the season when it could be fatal. I don't think the Cods are threatened by relegation and if we finish the season where we are now in the league, this won't be that bad a result
 

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Not really concerned about our defeat at Chesterfield yesterday. It won't define our season. We just need to get through January get some player's back from injury and then anything is possible.
 

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