w/e Saturday 27th January

[ForzaCounty]

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It’s a penalty everyone would expect that to be given, look at the prior red card, if that’s a red card then that’s a penalty and a red card. Clear and obvious error as they’d say in the prem! The Wimbledon bench thought it was a penalty.

If you heard the interview I imagine you know he was fuming at the 4th official more than anyone, I doubt we will hear much more about that unfortunately.

Also Flint was badly fouled by the same player twice before going off maybe with a dislocated shoulder, referee did fuck all about it.

Not a ref, but I thought if a penalty is given then you don't give a red, just a yellow.

 

[dedwardp]

Not a ref, but I thought if a penalty is given then you don't give a red, just a yellow.

Only a yellow IF the player makes a genuine attempt for the ball. I haven't seen the incident so not sure.

 

[jacobncfc]

Seen the red now and it has to be a red as soon as he’s given the foul. I don’t think you can really compare it to the penalty incident - Bowery holds on to him for a lot longer and then falls on top of him. The penalty one is a half second pull of the shirt followed by him going down like he’s been kneecapped.

Actually reminded me a bit of the incident just before Mansfield’s equaliser at Notts earlier in the season - Bostock felt a bit of contact in his back and went down like a sack of potatoes trying to buy the foul. Obviously you’d get better angles in the Prem but no chance that would get overturned by VAR.

 

[Indian Dan]

You must listen to the Wrexham fans. They have more experience than any of us when it comes to red cards.

 

[Master D]

Bostock seems to make a mistake leading to a goal every time I watch that highlights show. Is he becoming a liability now?

 

[jacobncfc]

Bostock seems to make a mistake leading to a goal every time I watch that highlights show. Is he becoming a liability now?

He’s not been the same player since Palmer got injured (much as we haven’t been the same team). The man needs to stop giving away penalties.

We’ve basically been asking him to be a one-man midfield and do lots of things he isn’t particularly good at, so hopefully with Robertson settling in and SM making us a bit more organised he’ll get back to the player he was at the start of the season.

 

[Boz]

Only a yellow IF the player makes a genuine attempt for the ball. I haven't seen the incident so not sure.

IF deemed a penalty, then think a red card would follow as its grappling rather than trying to play the ball.

I’m not a referee either, but agree with those who suggest it’s wrong to conflate the penalty incident and the Bowery red card.

 

[Conker]

Seen the red now and it has to be a red as soon as he’s given the foul. I don’t think you can really compare it to the penalty incident - Bowery holds on to him for a lot longer and then falls on top of him. The penalty one is a half second pull of the shirt followed by him going down like he’s been kneecapped.

Actually reminded me a bit of the incident just before Mansfield’s equaliser at Notts earlier in the season - Bostock felt a bit of contact in his back and went down like a sack of potatoes trying to buy the foul. Obviously you’d get better angles in the Prem but no chance that would get overturned by VAR.

I remember that incident, none of your players responded to it or tried to claim a foul for it, even Bostock himself, DKD turned him for good and got stopped it’s pretty clear from my viewpoint.

Obviously agree to disagree etc etc but it’s a blatant penalty that I’m yet to come across people associated with Wimbledon disagree with.

 

[Boz]

On the Notts County v Barrow bad challenge, agree that the footage isn’t clear enough to assess how bad it is.

From what I saw the other week wouldn’t say Barrow were a particularly dirty team. There was one bad late challenge on Hendry well after the ball had gone at the end of the first half and a claim of a stamp on Lee O’Connor’s foot in the second which led to him going off and being out for a couple of weeks. I didn’t see that one and don’t know the players involved in either incident.

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

Bostock seems to make a mistake leading to a goal every time I watch that highlights show. Is he becoming a liability now?

Yes, he's been error prone recently as shown at Grimsby and Wimbledon with avoidable penalty concessions, but as highlighted he's being given too much to do since Palmer's injury.

Tbh for me he can do little wrong ever since he ran the show at Wembley in the one that mattered most. Best player on the pitch and the only player on the pitch who could have scored that vital 87th minute equaliser.

Without him we would still be in the NL albeit top by a country mile.

 

[TheEndIsNigh]

Yes, he's been error prone recently as shown at Grimsby and Wimbledon with avoidable penalty concessions, but as highlighted he's being given too much to do since Palmer's injury.

Tbh for me he can do little wrong ever since he ran the show at Wembley in the one that mattered most. Best player on the pitch and the only player on the pitch who could have scored that vital 87th minute equaliser.

Without him we would still be in the NL albeit top by a country mile.

Not entirely sure what he did at Wembley 8 months ago has to do with how he’s playing now?

He’s been rubbish just lately, but currently we have absolutely no one to take his place.

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

It doesn't. Its just my personal opinion stressing that I haven't forgotten just how good he was in our run in last season and THAT performance in the final, in the one that mattered.

Overall his time at Notts he's been a big success but yes in past two months he's been poor by his high standards . But it's only recent as we all know.

Totally agree we don't have anyone to replace him if we wanted to give him a rest aka drop him. That's an issue.

 

[Master D]

I think it’s one that could go either way under the way the laws currently are, but it should be an absolutely stonewall red. I get sometimes players have to take one for the team and a yellow with a pull or a trip, but he’s gone flying in from behind at full pelt to hack him down knowing he has no chance of playing the ball. Way more likely to cause a serious injury than a lot of challenges you see red cards given for.

I think it should be a red too, have seen straight reds given for things like that in the past.

 

[Optipez]

Bostock seems to make a mistake leading to a goal every time I watch that highlights show. Is he becoming a liability now?

He's slowing and as we've no cover has to play.

 

[Who Needs Mourinho]

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It’s a penalty everyone would expect that to be given, look at the prior red card, if that’s a red card then that’s a penalty and a red card. Clear and obvious error as they’d say in the prem! The Wimbledon bench thought it was a penalty.

If you heard the interview I imagine you know he was fuming at the 4th official more than anyone, I doubt we will hear much more about that unfortunately.

Also Flint was badly fouled by the same player twice before going off maybe with a dislocated shoulder, referee did fuck all about it.

VAR aren’t overturning that in a month of Sundays.

Red was harsh. Penalty would have been soft.

 

[Conker]

VAR aren’t overturning that in a month of Sundays.

Red was harsh. Penalty would have been soft.

You should try and become an amateur L2 referee like the majority of them mate, fit right in. No eye test required. VAR is giving that all day not even up for a debate, I can see that little twat in black running to the screen feeling the pressure, still glad we don’t have it mind!

 

[Who Needs Mourinho]

You should try and become an amateur L2 referee like the majority of them mate, fit right in. No eye test required. VAR is giving that all day not even up for a debate, I can see that little twat in black running to the screen feeling the pressure, still glad we don’t have it mind!

I mean it is up for debate. Literally everybody on here is debating it and there isn’t a neutral who believes it’s a blatant penalty.

 

[Conker]

I mean it is up for debate. Literally everybody on here is debating it and there isn’t a neutral who believes it’s a blatant penalty.

The debate comment was regards to VAR, the same thing that overturns absolutely anything and for much less than that.

If you get turned in the box, and you stop that player from shooting with ur arms it’s a penalty. Like I say I do find if interesting that I have only really come across people who don’t support either Mansfield or Wimbledon that don’t think it’s a penalty, but I suppose you lot have only seen it from that one angle on the offical highlights, where most of us seen it in the ground or maybe from other angles to help come to the correct judgement.


Anyway we need to turn that in to a positive thing, siege mentality, pretend everyone is out to get us etc etc - that can work really well in football.

 

[jacobncfc]

https://x.com/tomhwilliams23/status/1751672199012819045?s=46&t=QZhIP4tzxaOmjFS5bDYo_A

Better view of the tackle on Jones. Doesn’t really change my view that no real arguments with a yellow as things are, but it should be an unarguable red.

 

[Stocky]

https://x.com/tomhwilliams23/status/1751672199012819045?s=46&t=QZhIP4tzxaOmjFS5bDYo_A

Better view of the tackle on Jones. Doesn’t really change my view that no real arguments with a yellow as things are, but it should be an unarguable red.

I do agree more should be done about cynical ones like that, as you say the rules as they are now there aren't really any grounds to send him off so can't blame the official more the laws of the game may need a tweak. The problem is the refs will fuck it up and end up sending people off for genuine attempts for the ball of similar force.

 

[AdamStag]

The debate comment was regards to VAR, the same thing that overturns absolutely anything and for much less than that.

If you get turned in the box, and you stop that player from shooting with ur arms it’s a penalty. Like I say I do find if interesting that I have only really come across people who don’t support either Mansfield or Wimbledon that don’t think it’s a penalty, but I suppose you lot have only seen it from that one angle on the offical highlights, where most of us seen it in the ground or maybe from other angles to help come to the correct judgement.


Anyway we need to turn that in to a positive thing, siege mentality, pretend everyone is out to get us etc etc - that can work really well in football.

It is what it is like you say, on the positive side to things i look forward to having a ref in our favour like that sometime soon that who will actively assist us winning.

However, given the injury to flint and suspensions to quinn and bowery id be very surprised if county didn’t get something. The annual mansfield new year fuck up is in full flow, it’s whether it can be addressed and this season becomes something different.

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

And you will.

No need to get so hung up about it, it's swings and roundabouts. It's football.