w/e Saturday 27th January

[Stocky]

Literally impossible to tell the severity of that foul from that angle. Ref was right on top of it tbh. Doesn't mean he got it right of course.

 

[jacobncfc]

Yellow that, good foul.

I think it’s one that could go either way under the way the laws currently are, but it should be an absolutely stonewall red. I get sometimes players have to take one for the team and a yellow with a pull or a trip, but he’s gone flying in from behind at full pelt to hack him down knowing he has no chance of playing the ball. Way more likely to cause a serious injury than a lot of challenges you see red cards given for.

 

[DippyDon]

Bowery’s red card for Mansfield is the exact same foul that a large portion of AFC fans thought didn’t deserve two red cards on Tuesday.

 

[chief]

I think it’s one that could go either way under the way the laws currently are, but it should be an absolutely stonewall red. I get sometimes players have to take one for the team and a yellow with a pull or a trip, but he’s gone flying in from behind at full pelt to hack him down knowing he has no chance of playing the ball. Way more likely to cause a serious injury than a lot of challenges you see red cards given for.

It looks like he goes in at the side to me, rather than studs on the back of the leg. It's well thought out, he's taking one for the team but in a manner that it won't damage the player he's fouling.

 

[jacobncfc]

It looks like he goes in at the side to me, rather than studs on the back of the leg. It's well thought out, he's taking one for the team but in a manner that it won't damage the player he's fouling.

Well he got that wrong considering Jones was hobbling about on one leg for the few minutes left.

 

[chief]

Well he got that wrong considering Jones was hobbling about on one leg for the few minutes left.

Impact, he'll be fine.

 

[gary]

Viewed the two key incidents in the Wimbledon v Mansfield game.

Red card, Bowery is the last man and appears to make contact with the Wimbledon player first. Bit soft, but would be surprised if it was overturned on appeal.

Keillor-Dunn penalty shout, looked like a spot-kick to me, unless the referee felt he was already falling when contact was made.

Bowery would've been better off just letting Davison run through. Most Wimbledon fans would tell you that he's bloody useless. Never in a million year's would he have scored.

 

[jacobncfc]

Not seen the red card or any other controversial ones from the game, but that non-penalty against Mansfield is a great decision IMO. Lad’s got a free shot at goal pretty much and absolutely lobbed himself on the floor because a guy has lightly held his shirt for about one second. Just shoot mate.

 

[AdamStag]

Not seen the red card or any other controversial ones from the game, but that non-penalty against Mansfield is a great decision IMO. Lad’s got a free shot at goal pretty much and absolutely lobbed himself on the floor because a guy has lightly held his shirt for about one second. Just shoot mate.

So you’re through on goal in the last minute and could shoot but thought you’d fall over instead incase you got a penalty instead?

Obviously no-one will ever know but whether it was or wasn’t applied it’s terrible logic.

 

[Son of Cod]

A truly disgusting performance from us today, thankfully the bottom 2 never win or I’d be worried based on that performance.

Up until today I was chilled about it all. No worries, neither up nor down. Safe and all that. But for fuck saaaake, we're in another fucking L2 relegation battle again aren't we? Absolutely horrific performance today.

Good win for Rovers steadying the ship before a tricky February. The match stats suggest maybe a tad fortunate, those at the game may be better equipped to assess. A couple more wins will see us secure the primary goal of FL survival.

Nothing fortunate about it. A match lacking in quality for sure but you worked your socks and were all over us. Fair play. Deserved the win.

 

[jacobncfc]

So you’re through on goal in the last minute and could shoot but thought you’d fall over instead incase you got a penalty instead?

Obviously no-one will ever know but whether it was or wasn’t applied it’s terrible logic.

Dunno I’m a long way from being a professional footballer, but it’s pretty clear that’s what your guy has done.

Obviously you’ll get them sometimes and people will differ on their views of how much contact in the box is needed for it to be a foul, but it’s definitely not a terrible decision where he’s missed something obvious.

 

[Indian Dan]

Can't add much to that, shouldn't have lost but we have.

How’s big tits Hutton?

 

[Boz]

While I thought it was a penalty in the Dons v Stags game, it wasn’t clearcut and the referee was well-placed to see what happened. As others have indicated, it was by no means a stonewaller. Keillor-Dunn has his back to goal at the time of the contact so not at the point where a goal is inevitable either.

In my view, the referee got one of the two key decisions correct and the other is arguable either way. Haven’t seen the full match, did he give nothing Mansfield’s way all game? Otherwise the reaction to his performance feels a bit OTT. While losing so late is frustrating, isn’t that mainly down to the team and manager? Will Finnie has refereed a few Rovers games I’ve seen and been ok. There are far worse officials out there.

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

So you’re through on goal in the last minute and could shoot but thought you’d fall over instead incase you got a penalty instead?

Obviously no-one will ever know but whether it was or wasn’t applied it’s terrible logic.

I could have mistaken identity here but I get a strong sense that he was having a temper tantrum because Nige made the decision not to start your best forward. It just so happened to happen when through on goal.

Just hit it lad.

 

[THE LAST WALTZ]

How’s big tits Hutton?

Had two decent games so far.
Even defended at times yesterday.
Shame our strikers don’t have the confidence to attack his crosses.
Looks a good addition in an area where we were lacking.

 

[Third Team Lucky]

How’s big tits Hutton?

Second half yesterday I thought that he was the stand-out Gills player.

 

[BarraMatt]

https://x.com/mriordan__/status/1751377918112997657?s=46&t=QZhIP4tzxaOmjFS5bDYo_A

If this isn’t a red card, the rules need changing. Awful tackle.

I would have to see another angle to decide properly but you see plenty of those type fouls and tackles throughout the season, both for and against. Seen them given both ways and your manager seems to agree.

Social media isn't the place to get decent football analysis but had to chuckle at the assumption from one of two that we've gone out to deliberately target Jones' knee given his injury history.

 

[EnglishRed]

Barrow are a dirty side, which made all the histrionics by their fans after our game even funnier. The second guy who got taken off injured hurt himself by headbutting McClean nowhere near the ball.

 

[TheEndIsNigh]

https://x.com/mriordan__/status/1751377918112997657?s=46&t=QZhIP4tzxaOmjFS5bDYo_A

If this isn’t a red card, the rules need changing. Awful tackle.

If scything down a player at full pace like that isn’t serious foul play, I’d love to know what the ref thinks is, and that angle doesn’t actually show how bad it was. No attempt to play the ball should always be a red anyway imo.

On Mansfield, listening to Clough I thought there’d been some terrible miscarriage of justice, but the lad’s been held a bit and then chucks himself on the ground, and the two ‘actions’ (cheers Luke) were in no way connected.

 

[Conker]

It’s a stonewall penalty, the fact anyone suggests different is off the rails, he turned him in the box and got brought down, no need to overthink it.

The red card I’m not particularly mad about, one of those where the opinion is very split, obviously it went against us, Sutton had a similar foul Tuesday and it also went against us just how football is.

Cannot comment on the fourth official as that seems where most of Clough anger stems from.

 

[jacobncfc]

I would have to see another angle to decide properly but you see plenty of those type fouls and tackles throughout the season, both for and against. Seen them given both ways and your manager seems to agree.

Social media isn't the place to get decent football analysis but had to chuckle at the assumption from one of two that we've gone out to deliberately target Jones' knee given his injury history.

Yeah have said already that I’m not particularly fussed about it not being a red, I think it could’ve been (apparently both SM and PW cordially agreed it was your classic ‘orange card’). I just think it’d be better for the sport if that’s an unarguable red - the combination of it stopping a simple pass to put us in one on one, the pace at which he’s lunged into it from behind and the completely deliberate nature of it makes a yellow feel like a very light punishment for it.

Anyone saying that second bit is obviously chatting nonsense - it was just the only time in the game we caught you out without your two
banks behind the ball and he panicked because if Jones gets the pass away we probably score.

 

[Agombar stool]

He was OK - nice goal. Looks a bit lightweight. Hopefully improvement to come.

Thats how I'd sum him up also. The first thing that stood out for me was how lightweight he is.

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

I've listened to Mr Clough's post match interview and I really hope he reconsiders his (and his coaching staffs) proposed actions of writing strongly worded letters of complaint to the authorities. I know he was clearly angry and it strongly sounds justifiably so but to do that would be frankly embarrassing.

Before all the alleged smiles and winks from the unprofessional and baiting 4th official I wonder if said coaching staff, manager and maybe even the substitute players perhaps made one or two comments to the 4th official which were unprofessional, over the line or potentially insulting? Was he baited into a response due to the referees abysmal and infuriating performance? Or were they all as good as gold for the 90+ minutes and the 4th official just decided to do it for shits and giggles and to wind them up? Hmmmmm

It's frankly embarrassing and I hope he calms down and sees sense. Just think of all the shit the Mansfield bench have given 4th officials over the years and they haven't been so petty as to write a letter of complaint to the club.

 

[Richard Cranium]

From the video of the penalty incident it does look as though DKD goes down easily, he is being held but just falls over so the ref hasn’t bought it.

Flint could be out for a while now aswell and Lee Gregory isn’t coming. Big week coming up, we might need about 4 signings this week…

At least we’ve got a home banker next weekend

 

[Master D]

Definite pen that Mansfield one for me. If he's giving a red for the same thing earlier in the game then he has to give that.

 

[BarraMatt]

Barrow are a dirty side, which made all the histrionics by their fans after our game even funnier. The second guy who got taken off injured hurt himself by headbutting McClean nowhere near the ball.

Slipping a tenner in the ref's pocket pre match is working wonders so far!

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[Luke Imp]

Having heard Clough, I thought I was going to see some horrendous decisions but reality was that they were both borderline and have gone the wrong way for Mansfield.

I'm not sure at what distance DOGSO is applied, if any, but what probably doesn't help is that when the foul starts, the next players are only just over the halfway line and by the time the ref blows, they're on the cover.

The penalty is soft if it's given against you but you'd also want it given for you and it's not one I'm convinced about as a neutral, there's hardly a tug there really. The guy goes down when the player has let go as well, it's not more than your standard grappling IMO.

 

[Conker]

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Having heard Clough, I thought I was going to see some horrendous decisions but reality was that they were both borderline and have gone the wrong way for Mansfield.

I'm not sure at what distance DOGSO is applied, if any, but what probably doesn't help is that when the foul starts, the next players are only just over the halfway line and by the time the ref blows, they're on the cover.

The penalty is soft if it's given against you but you'd also want it given for you and it's not one I'm convinced about as a neutral, there's hardly a tug there really. The guy goes down when the player has let go as well, it's not more than your standard grappling IMO.

It’s a penalty everyone would expect that to be given, look at the prior red card, if that’s a red card then that’s a penalty and a red card. Clear and obvious error as they’d say in the prem! The Wimbledon bench thought it was a penalty.

If you heard the interview I imagine you know he was fuming at the 4th official more than anyone, I doubt we will hear much more about that unfortunately.

Also Flint was badly fouled by the same player twice before going off maybe with a dislocated shoulder, referee did fuck all about it.

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

From the video of the penalty incident it does look as though DKD goes down easily, he is being held but just falls over so the ref hasn’t bought it.

Flint could be out for a while now aswell and Lee Gregory isn’t coming. Big week coming up, we might need about 4 signings this week…

At least we’ve got a home banker next weekend

Tis true and Nigel needs those 3 points even more than we do after a poor run of results from some favourable looking set of fixtures.

Checked the odds and the home side are 4/5. Clearly they know the history of this fixture.

 

[Optipez]

It looks like he goes in at the side to me, rather than studs on the back of the leg. It's well thought out, he's taking one for the team but in a manner that it won't damage the player he's fouling.

It's a sort of orange. I can see why it was a yellow, thought straight away he'd get a yellow but seeing it back the cynicism and disregard for a fellow pro's legs makes me think a yellow isn't really justice.