WWE Raw Discussion Thread

[NiallQuinnDiscoPants]

she is smokin' hot man.

can't blame ol' leather pants for doin the deed with her

 

[Eamonn]

I think Ortons return is going to be very interesting, hes going to be very over as a face again, be interesting to see the size of reactions he gets compared to Reigns and Bryan. Sheamus back in next couple of weeks as well, so hes surely a lock to turn heel and someone else needs to as well, wayyyyy too face heavy at the minute, Bryan, Reigns, Cena, Orton, Ambrose, Ziggler, Ryback, Sheamus compared to Lesnar, Rollins, Wyatt, Rusev, Kane, Big Show, Barrett, Miz. Thus I would have Sheamus and Reigns turn to balance it out more. I wouldnt be against an Ambrose and Wyatt double turn at some point, think Wyatt could be huge as a face with his followers gimmick

 

[RavenBish]

lol

http://www.listentothisshow.com/blog/2015/2/11/the-sexcellent-scandal-of-wwes-seth-rollins

 

[NiallQuinnDiscoPants]

i wouldnt be surprised to see Sheamus v Ziggler at Mania. Got a feelin' in me bones.

 

[Oaf]

I have a horrible feeling that we're going to see Ryback, Rowan and Ziggler vs Rollins, Big Show and Kane at Wrestlemania. What an incredible waste that'd be of Seth Rollins and Dolph Ziggler. Especially when you consider what those two could do in a one on one. I really hope that that match happens at Fast Lane, just to rule it out of happening at WM.

 

[NiallQuinnDiscoPants]

I have a horrible feeling that we're going to see Ryback, Rowan and Ziggler vs Rollins, Big Show and Kane at Wrestlemania. What an incredible waste that'd be of Seth Rollins and Dolph Ziggler. Especially when you consider what those two could do in a one on one. I really hope that that match happens at Fast Lane, just to rule it out of happening at WM.

fast lane - Rollins, Kane and Big Show v Ziggler, Ryback and Rowan
mania - Rollins, Kane and Big Show v Ziggler, Ryback and Rowan AGAIN

 

[ForeverUnited]

Smackdown Spoiler, not sure if anyone watches it but..

Spoiler

Big Show KOs Kane, seemingly turning face, again.

 

[Saddlerrad]

Smackdown Spoiler, not sure if anyone watches it but..

Spoiler

Big Show KOs Kane, seemingly turning face, again.

Fuck off and retire.

 

[RavenBish]

They're going to waste a WM slot on Kane v Big Show aren't they?

 

[Oaf]

They're going to waste a WM slot on Kane v Big Show aren't they?

Don't you even fucking dare mention the idea of that. We do not deserve that match.

 

[RavenBish]

Don't you even fucking dare mention the idea of that. We do not deserve that match.

It's happening. Hope it's a 20 minute street-fight too. I can go and do something else but you'll have to sit there and watch it.

 

[Oaf]

I would boo until my lungs bleed.

In fact, I sort of hope that match does happen and that everybody at WM boo's the shit out of it. Then WWE may get the message that WE DON'T WANT TO SEE THESE TWO WRESTLE ANYMORE.

 

[BigDaveCUFC]

I think you should hope for a Big Show Vs Kane match.

It'll be terrible and should not happen but i think its better they fight each other than say a fued they dominate and win vs a good up-coming guy.

 

[NiallQuinnDiscoPants]

Don't you even fucking dare mention the idea of that. We do not deserve that match.

To be fair 4 hours is a long time to go without having a pee. here's your perfect oppurtunity

 

[Luke]

Big Show Vs Kane would be a perfect chance to go and get a couple of beers from the bar.

 

[Dolph Ziggler]

Big Show Vs Kane would be a perfect chance to go and get a couple of beers from the bar.

There will be 80000 people in the queue.

 

[Oaf]

To be fair 4 hours is a long time to go without having a pee. here's your perfect oppurtunity

This is true

There will be 80000 people in the queue.

This is also true

I actually think it'd be hilarious if EVERYBODY fucked off to the toilet or to get food and stuff during a match like that leaving the arena looking like Wembley just after half time.

 

[Eamonn]

You need to watch Smackdown, Bryan and Reigns are in a tag team turmoil match, which lasts for AN HOUR. About 30 odd minutes of that a fucking brilliant match against The Usos, well worth watching, great stuff.

 

[RavenBish]

Watched it...meh. The Uso stuff was quite interesting but the rest of it was crap - there's no real value to putting a team of Reigns/Bryan against fucking Slater Gator and Los Matadores.

 

[Oaf]

Saw Smackdown last night. The Uso's part was superb... but I'm not actually all that happy with it, overall. The tag team division has improved immensely over the last few years, and it was pretty disappointing to see two people just plow through everything it has to offer in one go.

If Cena had been partnered with somebody that isn't Daniel Bryan (say, Orton) and that happened, there would be absolute outcry. But because Daniel Bryan did it, nobody bats an eyelid.

Still, was an interesting dynamic between Reigns and Bryan throughout, and like I said, that Uso's part was great to watch.

 

[Eamonn]

Fuck off, Cena and Orton pretty much beat the whole roster in a handicap match a few years ago and it was awesome. I thought it was a rare instance of fantastic storytelling from WWE, Miz and Mizdow started it off, they cost themselves the match and carried on their story, interesting that Mizdow was much over than both Bryan and Reigns! Then The Usos who came out of that match looking superb, they took to the limit in a 25-30 minute match the two number one contenders for Wrestlemania. The story throughout was great, the family connection, Bryans aggression, Reigns weakness, just superb. Then Slater/Titus and Matadores are hardly staples of the division, they job to everyone so no foul there. Ascension then were made to look strong as fuck, dominated Bryan and Reigns and the match had to be stopped as they were taking it too far, they came out of it looking fantastic. And then it was Show and Kane, to pick the bones as Reigns and Bryan realisesd they needed to work together but Show and Kane imploded among each other, the work together and win and then the respect at the end.

Miz and Mizdow continue their story, Mizdow out pops Bryan and Reigns
Usos look brilliant taking those two to the limit
Ascension look superb just dominating them
Titus/Slater and Matadores was just another week for them
And Bryan/Reigns story was continued brilliantly, both men did a great job throughout

So no I dont really see the issue, there wasnt much "ploughing through the roster" going on and Cesaro and Kidd werent even involved anyway.Pretty much everyone came out of that match looking better than before.

 

[TheMinsterman]

Things just got real.

Oaf vs Eamonn, Wrestlemania. Book it.

 

[Oaf]

To be fair Eamonn, yeah, you're probably right. It was booked pretty well in the fact that the only real important teams amongst the lot were the Uso's and The Ascension, and the neither of those came out of it looking particularly weak. I guess my issue isn't really with the booking there... more to do with the fact that, like I said, if Bryan (or somebody else who the IWC loves, like Ziggler or whatever) hadn't been involved you just know people would have shit all over it.

 

[Eamonn]

Stop it Oaf, I only want to see positives dammit. Reigns isnt exactly a popular choice but got alot of praise, as I said a few years back, on the Raw before WM Cena and Orton were in a 17 on 2 elimination handicap match against the Raw roster, they eliminated a good 10-11 of them before they all jumped in and JBL and Umaga took over before HHH finished the job. It was pretty awesome, seeing RKO's and AA's everywhere, them working together also, I always liked Cena and Ortons little tag matches together, the AA into the RKO set up is brilliant. I seem to recall most people enjoyed that match, of course there was a few OMG BURIED THE WHOLE ROSTER but it was quite cool. Smackdown was just a well booked match, surely going to be a triple threat at Mania now. I am hoping Sheamus is going to come back this Raw as new heel henchman for The Authority, take out Big Show.

 

[TheMinsterman]

There would no doubt be complaints if it was Cena, but that is well earned, the guy has been on top for a decade, Daniel Bryan has at best been on top for a combined year if we take out the length of his time injured, you'd maybe get groans about Orton too but it's the same as Cena, he's got a ludicrous list of titles and been on top for so long, it's not that this booking is "bad", it's that people are long since fed up of how those two are used.

 

[Oaf]

I wonder what exactly would happen if Bryan were to be pushed to the level of Cena though... how long would it be before people start to boo him? Would people start to boo somebody who's just that damned good? I guess Mysterio was once rated as one of the best but went down the route of becoming the *sigh* "ultimate underdog" who won every time and people hated him by the end...

 

[RavenBish]

Surprised Bryan is still so over to be honest, a great worker who should be in big matches/feuds but dull as fuck. It's laughable to think they could hang their hat on him as the top babyface for years. As Oaf said, he only works well as the humble underdog which has a shelf-life when there's talk of him main-eventing his second consecutive Wrestlemania. As much as Reigns isn't ready, he has far more potential of filling the void if they decided to switch it up a bit with Cena for a while.

 

[Oaf]

The thing is though, didn't Bryan have a run in the indies as a heel where, despite his size and stature, he was basically seen as a total badass because of how great he was and how legit dangerous he came across? I'd like to see him pull that off...

 

[JoeJoeJoeJoe]

I'm been bored of Bryan for a while tbh. I don't care at all about his match vs Reigns and would much rather have seen Rollins vs Reigns at fast lane.

 

[NiallQuinnDiscoPants]

My "BEST" Daniel Bryan I've seen in WWE was in the summer of 2013 when he was battling against the tag of 'weak link'. he was serious and an absolute bad ass. then the powers-that-be cottoned on to that and the fact that he had a beard, and began slightly tweaking him into 'their kind of babyface' whilst constantly mocking his beard and 'goatface'.

the daniel bryan we have now isn't being booked that well. he's acting like a bit of a bitch when it comes to Roman Reigns when he should be fighting his own corner and no concentrating on anything other than him winning at Fast Lane. he's still sounds phoney as a sarcastic baby face.

on you tube there's a video that they did for him just before his Hell in a Cell match with Orton in 2013. talking about how he's a wrestler and what he's had to go through to get to where he is today. awesome video. built him perfectly and absolutely serious. and typically not used on TV.