1st Matches of 2021-22 Season: 7th August 2021

[Greenacres]

Taking the knee is rightly or wrongly linked to BLM, which is the excuse some make for booing it.

This standing together against racism isn’t linked to any left wing politics, seen it done at Prem games and in other countries so no excuse for anyone to boo it.

Agree with that, unfortunately some people suggest that BLM is linked to Marxism...or is just a political statement...althought there is a possibility that some of those who boo it are actually racist.

I like the idea of both teams standing together, to show that although rivals on the pitch they are united in being anti-racism, which does seem a break from taking the knee. I didn't get to my seat until a few minutes before the teams came onto the pitch, so I wasn't sure what they were doing, however I still stood up and applauded them...I looked around and maybe 20% of the other people sat in the Main Stand were doing the same...so maybe the clubs where this is happening need to be a bit more vocal in letting fans know why they are doing it.

 

[Boz]

Walsall supporters - how did Labadie do? I see he got his statutory yellow.

He was exactly what we expected from him. Solid in the middle, put a couple of good challenges in, Kinsella (lad next to him in cm) tends to chance the ball down alot & with Labadie next to him, it gave him the freedom to do so unlike last season with Stuart Sinclair next to him. He also seems to have a good eye for a pass.

He got forward well towards the end but had two awful attempts on goal.

Screamed a bit less than usual, but plenty of his trade-mark rolling about at the slightest contact. Both midfields were on a par and cancelled each other out.

 

[Reginald Fodstain]

Walsall supporters - how did Labadie do? I see he got his statutory yellow.

Up to his usual tricks of falling over and kicking people. Did at least keep his teeth to himself, though, credit where it's due.

 

[Boz]

Thoughts on Tranmere vs Walsall yesterday.

Thought a draw would of been a fair result, we both created very similar chances & Tranmere managed to put one away.

Thought the ref was poor, looks like we should of had a penalty in the first half & the Tranmere red card was harsh. It was a hard challenge but eyes on the ball, studs not showing, it was a yellow at most.

It was clear both teams had 8/9 new signings & lacked a proper striker.

Tranmere will be up there come the end of the season, I think with our current squad we will get top 10, but if we get this striker we're apparently in for it could push us just into the top 7.

Think we edged it as our attackers a bit more incisive and the Walsall keeper actually had a few saves to make, whereas don't recall Murphy having one worthy of the name. However, the Saddlers probably had more of the ball and caused Rovers some problems out wide. Wouldn't have thought a draw unfair.

What was your penalty shout for? There was one incident towards the end of the first half, where the ball clipped the hand of a Rovers defender in the box when it was away from his body. I'm not up to speed with the ever-changing interpretation of handball but some referees might have given a penalty for that.

Also not impressed with the ref, whose decision making seemed random. Did enjoy the moment where there was an impasse on which side a Walsall corner should be taken, so the ball boy picked it up and ran and placed it on the opposite corner. Fair play to your no 3, who gave the kid a fist bump as he trotted over to take the corner.

 

[Soz]

Peter Walton on radio Northampton of
course agreed with the refs decision to send the Vale keeper off because of course

that's was the ex ref was it on your radio commentary?!

ours fucked up after 15 minutes so i switched to the home commentary - i thought he was dreadful. very biased, if northampton missplaced a pass it was not mentioned, if vale did it was because northampton were so excellent at putting us under pressure etc.

 

[BlackCountrySaddler]

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Think we edged it as our attackers a bit more incisive and the Walsall keeper actually had a few saves to make, whereas don't recall Murphy having one worthy of the name. However, the Saddlers probably had more of the ball and caused Rovers some problems out wide. Wouldn't have thought a draw unfair.

What was your penalty shout for? There was one incident towards the end of the first half, where the ball clipped the hand of a Rovers defender in the box when it was away from his body. I'm not up to speed with the ever-changing interpretation of handball but some referees might have given a penalty for that.

Also not impressed with the ref, whose decision making seemed random. Did enjoy the moment where there was an impasse on which side a Walsall corner should be taken, so the ball boy picked it up and ran and placed it on the opposite corner. Fair play to your no 3, who gave the kid a fist bump as he trotted over to take the corner

Thats the incident im talking about, looked like a penalty from our end and through our eyes, I think most fans would of called for it. But as you say, some would give it and others wouldnt.

There was also a trip just outside the 6 yard box on the by-line which looked debatable, but it was up your end so an ambitious shout.

Yeah, he was a proper league two ref. Apparently Mike Dean took over as 4th official when the linesman got injured, he apparently had to ask for our managers permission because hes a Tranmere fan!

 

[AdamStag]

Looking at some of the attendances yesterday

Salford with less than 2,000? wow

Harrogate with their first ever league game with a crowd, 1800? again, wow.

Decent 6,000 plus at tranmere, mansfield and carlisle though!

 

[RLC]

Looking at some of the attendances yesterday

Salford with less than 2,000? wow

Harrogate with their first ever league game with a crowd, 1800? again, wow.

Decent 6,000 plus at tranmere, mansfield and carlisle though!

Or just under 8,000 in our case.......

 

[The Terminator]

Looking at some of the attendances yesterday

Salford with less than 2,000? wow

Harrogate with their first ever league game with a crowd, 1800? again, wow.

Decent 6,000 plus at tranmere, mansfield and carlisle though!

That Nerdford game was boosted with 425 of our fans, Man Utd played Everton at 12.45 which messed them up I think.

The Atmosphere there has always been shit, always thought their fanbase was basicially part of the Man Utd spinoff groups there is around there with FCUM as well.

Although I know a few friends who watched both games, so no excuse really!

 

[denzel ecfc]

That Nerdford game was boosted with 425 of our fans, Man Utd played Everton at 12.45 which messed them up I think.

Although a few friends watched both games, so no excuse really!

The Atmosphere there has always been shit, always thought their fanbase was basicially part of the Man Utd spinoff groups there is around there with FCUM as well.

Although I know a few friends who watched both games, so no excuse really!

They would rather watch a United friendly than a league game? Says it all.

 

[BRFC_Gas]

I thought originally the ref tried to let things go the best he could do, he was pretty anonymous first half, but had to come to the game more 2nd half, and we were no angels ourselves in honesty.

the big 2 decisions went our way, but when you look back at them it’s pretty impossible not to agree with the ref - the red was ridiculous and lashing out like that. i’ve no doubt cost them the points, why do such a thing. though i suppose when you’ve joey barton as manager what do you expect?

The penalty again was silly, you’re in the last throes of the game and you manhandle like that, again you simply can’t do that and the correct decision was made.

Nice to start with a win, onwards!

Yes the red was stupid, you don't raise your hands even in retaliation, but your guy should have gone too imo and if that happens we would probably take away a point.
I'm not too bothered as we have many players to return that will improve that starting XI. We gifted you both goals and rarely look troubled.
Just annoying to lose as Mansfield were a lot poorer than I expected

 

[AdamStag]

Yes the red was stupid, you don't raise your hands even in retaliation, but your guy should have gone too imo and if that happens we would probably take away a point.
I'm not too bothered as we have many players to return that will improve that starting XI. We gifted you both goals and rarely look troubled.
Just annoying to lose as Mansfield were a lot poorer than I expected

It’s opening game of the season. no side finds their form so early, just good to see us get the points.

You’re right though, we were disjointed

 

[saddler78]

I like the 4-2-3-1 didn’t we use that a lot in the promotion season with Jeno Dodds and Vincent behind Pope, really took some teams apart that season with it.

Woz, Conlon and Rodney behind Wilson might work well with Pett and Walker in behind them.

Even without Gibbo we have Cass we could use there.

Can't say any of the stuff I've seen your fans say is a surprise when it comes to Clarke sounds the same as when he was with us hopefully as he has a better budget with you he will do a decent job this season but the playing players out of position and long ball stuff sounds very familiar.

 

[Conker]

Or just under 8,000 in our case.......

Sorry are you a Lincoln fan! We all know you had a good attendance, give yourself a pat on the back if you attended yourself

 

[Conker]

Yes the red was stupid, you don't raise your hands even in retaliation, but your guy should have gone too imo and if that happens we would probably take away a point.
I'm not too bothered as we have many players to return that will improve that starting XI. We gifted you both goals and rarely look troubled.
Just annoying to lose as Mansfield were a lot poorer than I expected

First game of the season, you came for a point (understand that) we were slightly better pretty much throughout and won the game, got loads to improve on but nothing really to criticise of our performance all considering except those two great chances in the second half. Both teams will improve loads you would imagine, neither team were poor except for Rovers ability to attack, but we can forgive that all considered, and poor from whoever got the red and gave away the penalty.

Hawkins is a nightmare but you can’t grab a player to stop him like that when ball is coming right at him. Hopefully your lot will learn from that.

 

[kieran_vale]

Can't say any of the stuff I've seen your fans say is a surprise when it comes to Clarke sounds the same as when he was with us hopefully as he has a better budget with you he will do a decent job this season but the playing players out of position and long ball stuff sounds very familiar.

Wouldn’t necessarily say Worrall was out of position as he’s played there since DC came in but always thought of it as a stopgap. If you have one of the most creative players in the league I want him in the opposition third where he can really influence the game not also concerning himself with defensive duties. Particularly as I don’t think Northampton’s fullbacks are the best either to be honest.

I wouldn’t say any of the long balls were by design as such. We were trying to play and indeed the first fifteen minutes was thinking this season will be a doddle until reality hit. Was more a case we had so many new players they just didn’t have any cohesion in terms of runs off the ball and then gave it away cheaply a lot. Didn’t help that our psycho keeper did what he did either.

 

[Gassy]

Yes the red was stupid, you don't raise your hands even in retaliation, but your guy should have gone too imo and if that happens we would probably take away a point.
I'm not too bothered as we have many players to return that will improve that starting XI. We gifted you both goals and rarely look troubled.
Just annoying to lose as Mansfield were a lot poorer than I expected

Christ I’ve just seen the highlights, whilst I agree with it being a penalty, that is never a straight red card. That is one of the worst I’ve ever seen, seriously. And I’d genuinely question anyones mindset who believes that’s a straight red card and nothing for the Mansfield player.

It’s stupid and at best a yellow card, but Christ talk about petty. I see why fans are so annoyed now. Mansfield players deserves a yellow as well IMO.

Frustrating highlights as 2 silly goals to give away, that’s unlike Jaakola as well.

 

[Stringy]

Yes the red was stupid, you don't raise your hands even in retaliation, but your guy should have gone too imo and if that happens we would probably take away a point.
I'm not too bothered as we have many players to return that will improve that starting XI. We gifted you both goals and rarely look troubled.
Just annoying to lose as Mansfield were a lot poorer than I expected

Why should our player have been sent off too? Watching the highlights I see that Johnson moved his arm into your player before Johnson was assaulted by Coutts but that's not violent conduct. I haven't seen footage of the part just before where it looked like Coutts assaulted him on the first occasion on the goal line.

It’s opening game of the season. no side finds their form so early, just good to see us get the points.

You’re right though, we were disjointed

We weren't too good before the Rovers goal but after that I didn't think we were disjointed. We were patient in moving the ball to get the second goal particularly after the sending off. I thought we played well and cohesively for the last 20 and got the goal we deserved for that spell.

 

[EricSabin]

that's was the ex ref was it on your radio commentary?!

ours fucked up after 15 minutes so i switched to the home commentary - i thought he was dreadful. very biased, if northampton missplaced a pass it was not mentioned, if vale did it was because northampton were so excellent at putting us under pressure etc.

Yeah haha that’s him. Unfortunately he’s a Cobbler so summarises games occasionally.

 

[Conker]

Christ I’ve just seen the highlights, whilst I agree with it being a penalty, that is never a straight red card. That is one of the worst I’ve ever seen, seriously. And I’d genuinely question anyones mindset who believes that’s a straight red card and nothing for the Mansfield player.

It’s stupid and at best a yellow card, but Christ talk about petty. I see why fans are so annoyed now. Mansfield players deserves a yellow as well IMO.

Frustrating highlights as 2 silly goals to give away, that’s unlike Jaakola as well.

Danny Johnson got a yellow too I think.

I’m on fence about the red because it shouldn’t be in all likelihood but nowadays i just is. The only person to blame is the player, silly lad - captain too I think? Bodes poorly for you, especially with that reprobate on the touch line a lot of your lot fans sung for!

I mean we appointed Steve Evans but Barton outdoes him anyday!

 

[BRFC_Gas]

Why should our player have been sent off too? Watching the highlights I see that Johnson moved his arm into your player before Johnson was assaulted by Coutts but that's not violent conduct. I haven't seen footage of the part just before where it looked like Coutts assaulted him on the first occasion on the goal line.


We weren't too good before the Rovers goal but after that I didn't think we were disjointed. We were patient in moving the ball to get the second goal particularly after the sending off. I thought we played well and cohesively for the last 20 and got the goal we deserved for that spell.

Not only did Johnson put his elbow into Coutts chest, he then does the dying swan act when Coutts retaliates. A booking for each player would have been pragmatic and with that the game probably finishes 1-1.

We deserved a draw having to endure that bloody annoying drum all day

 

[Stringy]

Christ I’ve just seen the highlights, whilst I agree with it being a penalty, that is never a straight red card. That is one of the worst I’ve ever seen, seriously. And I’d genuinely question anyones mindset who believes that’s a straight red card and nothing for the Mansfield player.

It’s stupid and at best a yellow card, but Christ talk about petty. I see why fans are so annoyed now. Mansfield players deserves a yellow as well IMO.

Come on. This is football not WWE. If the referee sees it, that is a red every single time.

 

[Conker]

I’ve missed opposition (and sometimes our own) fans talking bias, all part of parce of this forum haha.

It’s hard to stay neutral post game when you lose, it’s always easy when you win!

 

[RLC]

Sorry are you a Lincoln fan! We all know you had a good attendance, give yourself a pat on the back if you attended yourself

Sorry, just found the bracketing of a 6,300 gate with one of 7,700 amusing.

Apparently Mansfield and Derby were the only clubs in the East Midlands to have gates over 6,000 yesterday.

 

[Gassy]

Come on. This is football not WWE. If the referee sees it, that is a red every single time.

You think that’s WWE? You need professional help mate

 

[Gassy]

Danny Johnson got a yellow too I think.

I’m on fence about the red because it shouldn’t be in all likelihood but nowadays i just is. The only person to blame is the player, silly lad - captain too I think? Bodes poorly for you, especially with that reprobate on the touch line a lot of your lot fans sung for!

I mean we appointed Steve Evans but Barton outdoes him anyday!

Fair enough if he got a yellow for the actual incident. I assume he didn’t keep those same standards all game then? (Lol)

I agree it’s stupid of Coutts, especially as captain. You can’t be giving the referee a reason to send you off, but Christ comments such as WWE makes you think football was a non-contact sport.

 

[Stringy]

You think that’s WWE? You need professional help mate

Well you're the team saying violent conduct is nothing. Perhaps you'd more at home on TheJudo or The UFCForum

 

[Robshep]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1424038724229271564

Big kev!!! what more can you say.

Had a chat with him before the boxing day 2018 game v Morecambe. He was a good bloke. As he was he walking away i told him i wasn't going to be nice to him even if i thought he was OK. He said good because the banter was part of the enjoyment. He gave a thumbs up just before kick off and within minutes he was arguing with somebody in the crowd and giving back abuse just as much as he was getting. You are wasting your time trying to wind him up because he doesn't care as long as it isn't too personal. Hoping to call him a geriatric Uncle Fester body double again on the 21st.

 

[AdamStag]

Sorry, just found the bracketing of a 6,300 gate with one of 7,700 amusing.

Apparently Mansfield and Derby were the only clubs in the East Midlands to have gates over 6,000 yesterday.

Well yeah, when you say 6000 plus crowds that does tend to bracket pretty much anything over 6000 together christ almighty

 

[Gassy]

Well you're the team saying violent conduct is nothing. Perhaps you'd more at home on TheJudo or The UFCForum

Am I though? Where have I said it’s nothing? Can you quote that please? Looking forward to seeing that one.

If ours is violent conduct, then so is your players elbow into his chest.

Maybe if you could take off your yellow screened glasses we could have an interesting conversation, instead you’ve exaggerated and lied in two posts. As I said, get help.