Club Size In Order (Championship Edition)

[markwwfc1992]

I enjoy reading these tables, it covers up how shit we are in reality.

 

[Rammy]

Christ, the number of times this discussion has happened now. It's so tedious.

 

[JJH]

I enjoy reading these tables, it covers up how shit we are in reality.

Yeah, and us. It's surprising we have such a fanbase given how shit we've been and still are for the entirety of our history.

 

[Rammy]

Yeah, and us. It's surprising we have such a fanbase given how shit we've been and still are for the entirety of our history.

New stadiums/revamps always pull excellent attendances the first season, and sometimes for two or three. Same happened with Brighton.

 

[TTOCS]

How many more fans than Preston do we have to have before we get to be bigger than them? 1.5 times obviously not enough.

Clubs clearly bigger than us (no order)
Wednesday
Leeds
Wolves
Derby
Forest
Middlesbrough
Ipswich
Birmingham

Clubs clearly smaller than us (no order)
Preston
Brentford
Huddersfield
Rotherham
MK Dons

The rest can be debated depending on your criteria (no order):
Brighton
Burnley
Hull
Cardiff
QPR
Reading
Blackburn
Fulham
Charlton
Bolton

 

[JJH]

New stadiums/revamps always pull excellent attendances the first season, and sometimes for two or three. Same happened with Brighton.

I'm not on about next season - we haven't dipped below 10k averages since the turn of the Millenium and we've had one good year at this level, the rest we've either been lurking around the bottom half of this division or in the god awful third tier.

 

[Aaron-Bcfc]

Yeah, and us. It's surprising we have such a fanbase given how shit we've been and still are for the entirety of our history.

"Such a fanbase" what fanbase is that? We've only averaged over 15k twice in 35 years.

 

[TTOCS]

I'm not on about next season - we haven't dipped below 10k averages since the turn of the Millenium and we've had one good year at this level, the rest we've either been lurking around the bottom half of this division or in the god awful third tier.

I cant remember any crowd under 10,000 since then to be honest, certainly not in the last 10 years.

 

[SF_]

How many more fans than Preston do we have to have before we get to be bigger than them? 1.5 times obviously not enough.

More fans in recent years.

Zero history/ achievements.

 

[JJH]

"Such a fanbase" what fanbase is that? We've only averaged over 15k twice in 35 years.

We average more than clubs who have decent histories at the highest level. The fact we can get together 50,000 for a piss pot final, sell out the PO final against Hull in less than a day etc...

I'm not saying our support is great, but considering how little we've actually achieved and that we haven't been in the top flight for over 30 years it's amazing that people continue to come.

 

[JJH]

More fans in recent years.

Zero history/ achievements.

Agreed, we're not bigger than Preston, we may have a bigger fanbase but you've done far more historically.

 

[TTOCS]

Agreed, we're not bigger than Preston, we may have a bigger fanbase but you've done far more historically.

Oh come off it.

They barely scrap 10,000 in a Championship play off chase and 20,000 for a Wembley final!

 

[JJH]

Oh come off it.

They barely scrap 10,000 in a Championship play off chase and 20,000 for a Wembley final!

Preston has 1/4 of the people living in it than Bristol does. Yes, we have a bigger fanbase - but I wouldn't say we're a bigger club than them because of the very little we've achieved.

 

[TTOCS]

Preston has 1/4 of the people living in it than Bristol does. Yes, we have a bigger fanbase - but I wouldn't say we're a bigger club than them because of the very little we've achieved.

Bigger fanbase is the number 1 criteria to me. Or are Swindon a bigger club because they won the League Cup 50 years ago?

 

[JJH]

Bigger fanbase is the number 1 criteria to me. Or are Swindon a bigger club because they won the League Cup 50 years ago?

Swindon average about 7k though, there's usually never more than a few thousand between us and PNE.

 

[SF_]

Oh come off it.

They barely scrap 10,000 in a Championship play off chase and 20,000 for a Wembley final!

Ah, you're the Bristol City fan who has an irrational dislike for North end. It's sweet.

It was closer to 30k but don't let facts get in the way, you can put that down to our complete apathy towards the play-offs. 9 consecutive defeats can do that... and what do Wembley followings count for? Gillingham take 40k+. All it shows is the amount of extra townfolk with no affinity to the football club who fancy a day out in London. Or else every club in the country would be averaging about 30k.

 

[Aaron-Bcfc]

Ah, you're the Bristol City fan who has an irrational dislike for North end. It's sweet.

It was closer to 30k but don't let facts get in the way, you can put that down to our complete apathy towards the play-offs. 9 consecutive defeats can do that... and what do Wembley followings count for? Gillingham take 40k+. All it shows is the amount of extra townfolk with no affinity to the football club who fancy a day out in London. Or else every club in the country would be averaging about 30k.

Exactly. A hell of a lot of c*** that live in Bristol. That's why we take so many to Wembley. Our actual fanbase is pretty much the same as yours.

 

[JoshBCFC]

Exactly. A hell of a lot of c*** that live in Bristol. That's why we take so many to Wembley. Our actual fanbase is pretty much the same as yours.

Though it shouldn't be as Preston are 1/4 the size of Bristol, but plastic fans fucking ruin it for us

 

[Ciderup]

Dear god, is it time for this already? Can't we wait until the season has actually finished?
I genuinely could not give a shit who's 'bigger' and what that actually means. It's more about who's successful for me.
For City, we have everything in place to become 'bigger' but it remains to be seen if we can make that happen. Our season card sales up to now, would suggest the supporter base IS growing so that's a positive.
With a city the size of Bristol (urban population of 800,000 - 1M) to have 2 clubs where they are is pretty damn poor TBH. Unfortunately, Bristolians, by nature, would clamour to watch a Premier league Bristol side but have little interest in helping us get there, that does appear to be changing slowly though.

 

[JJH]

Exactly. A hell of a lot of c*** that live in Bristol. That's why we take so many to Wembley. Our actual fanbase is pretty much the same as yours.

That's always been the thing with Bristol City - the potential has always been there, we'd sell out AG in a heartbeat every week in the top flight, but we need to get there again before we become a relatively decent sized club to reflect a massive city.

I've had a look at ours and Preston's home averages in comparison over the last 20 seasons (including this), and by my calculations:

We average - 12,086.

Preston average - 12,098.

In that time, we had 12/20 years in the 3rd tier. Preston had 8/20.

Edit: happy birthday by the way, TTOCS.

 

[Ciderup]

Sorry TTOCS, happy birthday bud.

 

[TTOCS]

Thanks gents.

Dont hate Preston, PNEonline send me a nice bday email every year bless 'em.

 

[Walkley_Owl]

Dear god, is it time for this already? Can't we wait until the season has actually finished?
I genuinely could not give a shit who's 'bigger' and what that actually means. It's more about who's successful for me.
For City, we have everything in place to become 'bigger' but it remains to be seen if we can make that happen. Our season card sales up to now, would suggest the supporter base IS growing so that's a positive.
With a city the size of Bristol (urban population of 800,000 - 1M) to have 2 clubs where they are is pretty damn poor TBH. Unfortunately, Bristolians, by nature, would clamour to watch a Premier league Bristol side but have little interest in helping us get there, that does appear to be changing slowly though.

800k to 1m? Closer to 600k pal

 

[TTOCS]

Metro area of over 1m, whatever that is.

Either way we are a top 10 UK city in population and top 5 in wealth but have never had a team to match.

 

[blademan89]

Ah, you're the Bristol City fan who has an irrational dislike for North end. It's sweet.

It was closer to 30k but don't let facts get in the way, you can put that down to our complete apathy towards the play-offs. 9 consecutive defeats can do that... and what do Wembley followings count for? Gillingham take 40k+. All it shows is the amount of extra townfolk with no affinity to the football club who fancy a day out in London. Or else every club in the country would be averaging about 30k.

22k wasn't it?

 

[TTOCS]

Yes it was 22,000 in a crowd of 48,000. Which means Swindon took more.

Compared to 42,000 City fans at the bloody JPT.

No contest in my opinion.

 

[SF_]

22k wasn't it?

Thought it was 27k but don't know where you get figures from.

 

[SF_]

Yes it was 22,000 in a crowd of 48,000. Which means Swindon took more.

Compared to 42,000 City fans at the bloody JPT.

No contest in my opinion.

Well done, Your city has a bigger population than my city.

 

[StevieEvansRedNWhiteArmy]

The problem for Bristol city is that the populus of Bristol is mostly full of inbred yokels who can't string a sentence together.

The rest are either Bristol Rovers fans, Rugby fans or have no intrest in Football.

 

[Ciderup]

800k to 1m? Closer to 600k pal

Wrong! As shown by TTOCS.
In terms of the discussion, it makes us look worse anyway.