Walkley_Owl
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Crowd sizes to be honest, are Vayul underacheiving?
20k ground, 50 seasons in the championship, we are massively underachieving
We were ripped apart by 15 odd years of indescribably horrendous management and the fan base is still fractured
Not to mention Stoke is the smallest city to host two professional clubs, and those white lightning swigging dole dossing bastards are somehow in division 1
Also it is a seriously economically deprived area which doesn't help
HAHAHAHAHAAlthough stoke supporting females pop out 11 kids each for the dole money the population rate is kept proportional by most of them dying at 30 from glue and alcohol poisoning aggravated by morbid obesity
Also Coates will snuff it soon which will have interesting effects
Of course they are.Portsmouth are no bigger than City, Preston or Bradford
Can't wait for Stoke's long overdue return to the lower leagues where they'll get 11-12K max the delusional, fickle, unappreciative bastards. Nothing sickens me more than seeing Stoke shirts in Crewe, hardly happened when I was growing up.
They won't be in the lower leagues for any time soon I'm afraid!Can't wait for Stoke's long overdue return to the lower leagues where they'll get 11-12K max the delusional, fickle, unappreciative bastards. Nothing sickens me more than seeing Stoke shirts in Crewe, hardly happened when I was growing up.
To me the clubs are in four different categories.
Coventry, Barnsley and Sheffield United who have spent a large portion of their recent history in the top two divisions.
Bradford, Preston, Bristol City and Swindon who are historically lower Championship/upper League One sides.
Rochdale, Yeovil, Crawley and Fleetwood who are historically League Two or, in the latter three's case, non-league clubs done good.
And the rest of League One's clubs who wouldn't look out of place in either this league or League Two.
Of course they are.
Few years in the PL, won the FA Cup and even in L2 getting bigger crowds than all of those 3.
What criteria do you use that makes you 'bigger'?
Sheffield United are bigger than Coventry, quite a bit bigger imo.
Coventry have spent a long period in the top flight and won the FA cup in the 80's yet they still don't get bigger crowds than the Blades, regardless, even before all this SISU shit.
I agree, our fans are pretty shit. People will make all the excuses for it, lack of success, SISU etc. but less than 10k even in this league is terrible for a club who try and claim to be 'big'.Sheffield United are bigger than Coventry, quite a bit bigger imo.
Coventry have spent a long period in the top flight and won the FA cup in the 80's yet they still don't get bigger crowds than the Blades, regardless, even before all this SISU shit.
We're not really a big club in the grand scheme of things, its just is comparison to 99.9% of clubs in this division including yourselves we still are at this current time.I really do struggle to acknowledge a club with lower attendances on occasions than non league Rovers as some kind of big club, irrelevant of how many years they finished a few places above the line in Premiership.
Portsmouth on the other hand, fantastic support and certainly bigger than us at the moment.
1) Sheff Utd - by a mile IMHO
2) Coventry City (spent plenty of time in the top flight, won a cup)
3) Bristol City, punching below their weight given the size of the city
4) Preston North End
5) Bradford City
6) Barnsley
7) MK Dons
8) Swindon Town
9) Doncaster
10) Port Vale
11) Chesterfield
12) Peterborough
13) Notts Co
14) Oldham
15) Gillingham
16) Walsall
17) Orient
18) Crewe
19) Scunthorpe
20) Yeovil
21) Rochdale
22) Colchester
23) Crawley
24) Fleetwood
Spot on! Play ground stuff IMO.what a load of utter bollox this thread is... Mine bigger than yours crap get a fucking grip .... Bellends
Didn't think you were bothered mate.In the year of our Lord a.d 1900 and something fa cup runners up .... Fucking come on beat that you minions
Getting a bit size'ist this thread, just wanted to put a positive spin on itDidn't think you were bothered mate.
Can't wait for Stoke's long overdue return to the lower leagues where they'll get 11-12K max the delusional, fickle, unappreciative bastards. Nothing sickens me more than seeing Stoke shirts in Crewe, hardly happened when I was growing up.
Not to mention shitty season ticket banners that they placed in Crewe a little while back now.
All stoke fans I seem to meet are all below the age of 18 and generally don't appear to know anything about the football club itself before 2008.
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