Confirmed transfers 2016/17

[Smally]

Everton sign Idrissa Gueye from Villa for £7m.

Looks like a great signing, going off his stats last season and the price paid. I believe him and Kante topped interceptions & tackles combined last season so it sounds promising

 

[epic73]

Everton sign Idrissa Gueye from Villa for £7m.

Looks like a great signing, going off his stats last season and the price paid. I believe him and Kante topped interceptions & tackles combined last season so it sounds promising

Nowadays, anyone that plays first team for under £20m is a good deal.

 

[Blitzballer]

http://www.skysports.com/football/n...issa-gueye-from-aston-villa-on-four-year-deal

"Gueye was second only to Leicester's Premier League-winning midfielder N'Golo Kante in terms of the number of combined interceptions and tackles made across Europe's top five leagues."

 

[silkyman]

Leroy Sane finally confirmed.

One step closer to Pep building his Cypress Hill themed attacking midfield. Next on the list, Tom Ince.

 

[GodsGift]

Alex McCarthy has joined from Palace for £2m. Backup goalkeeper.

Goalkeepers like McCarthy always confuse me. He could be a very good Championship goalkeeper playing every week but he's seemingly satisfied sitting on the bench for a Premier League side.

 

[JimJams]

Gabriel Jesus has confirmed he's signing for Man City. At first I thought that's got to be the end for Sterling, but they're loaning the Brazilian to Deportivo for a year.

 

[Ebeneezer Goode]

If Sterling has the right attitude I expect him to make the pundits eat their words this season. You'd only need to improve his finishing maybe 10-15% and he'd easily be scoring you 20 goals a season from a wide position, even with his 'poor' form from last year. Baffles me how he's been written off so quickly by some.

 

[Anon]

Goalkeepers like McCarthy always confuse me. He could be a very good Championship goalkeeper playing every week but he's seemingly satisfied sitting on the bench for a Premier League side.

Agree in general, but he's probably getting more money to sit on the Southampton bench and tbh, fair play to him.

Also, with McCarthy specifically, he might be thinking that if Forster gets another bad injury he'll get a longer stretch of games. Not to mention he might be in line for FA Cup appearances like what Randolphs been happy to do for us.

 

[Anon]

If Sterling has the right attitude I expect him to make the pundits eat their words this season. You'd only need to improve his finishing maybe 10-15% and he'd easily be scoring you 20 goals a season from a wide position, even with his 'poor' form from last year. Baffles me how he's been written off so quickly by some.

The 'writing off after one season' syndrome happens all the time, baffles me as well. Sterling hasn't become a bad player, same with Benteke and many others who find a new situation isn't a good fit. A move to somewhere that's the right fit (for whatever reason) and they could easily be the player they were again.

 

[Stevencc]

He's only 21, plenty of time to shine but I think the people that have criticised him the most have done so because he cost £50m.

A fee like that tends to raise expectations.

 

[silkyman]

By Boxing Day last year, Sterling had scored 10 goals in 25 apps and been instrumental in City topping their champions league group with goals against Sevilla and Monchengladbach. He tailed off after Christmas, as did the entire squad. There does seem to be an attitude of utter desperation for him to fail.

 

[JimJams]

I think it's more down to the fact that De Bruyne has come in for a very high fee as well but there's no question he's been worth it and he's a sure starter. Sterling isn't, and while part of that fee was down to his potential, when you spend £50mill you'd expect it's for a guy that's going to start every game for you. And he doesn't. With the signing of Sane and Jesus you are also signalling that the position is still pretty much open and are hedging your bets with him. Basically he's got to be great this year or they've got to have poor seasons.
I also think it's pretty understandable why people want him to fail. You've spent a frankly ridiculous sum on a player who doesn't start for you at an important developmental stage of his career. Other clubs don't want you turning heads and buying up their young talent (or any age talent really) just to experiment with it a bit and if it fails go and lob another wad at another club. There's the thought/hope that other young players see this and choose to stay at their clubs develop themselves in a first 11 and get better as players rather than pick up huge cheques whilst letting their playing careers fade into obscurity. But after Rodwell and Sinclair for example, players don't seem to take much notice.

 

[smat]

when you spend £50mill you'd expect it's for a guy that's going to start every game for you.

That's not really City or Sterling's problem tho? He has a decade of football at the top level ahead of him at least, he's got plenty of time to prove himself worthy of the fee.

Reckon he'll improve a lot under Guardiola. City nosedived last season after the announcement so his form in the second half of last season shouldn't be a guide.

 

[Ebeneezer Goode]

Sterling was a sure starter last season though.

 

[Stevencc]

I think it's more down to the fact that De Bruyne has come in for a very high fee as well but there's no question he's been worth it and he's a sure starter. Sterling isn't, and while part of that fee was down to his potential, when you spend £50mill you'd expect it's for a guy that's going to start every game for you. And he doesn't. With the signing of Sane and Jesus you are also signalling that the position is still pretty much open and are hedging your bets with him. Basically he's got to be great this year or they've got to have poor seasons.
I also think it's pretty understandable why people want him to fail. You've spent a frankly ridiculous sum on a player who doesn't start for you at an important developmental stage of his career. Other clubs don't want you turning heads and buying up their young talent (or any age talent really) just to experiment with it a bit and if it fails go and lob another wad at another club. There's the thought/hope that other young players see this and choose to stay at their clubs develop themselves in a first 11 and get better as players rather than pick up huge cheques whilst letting their playing careers fade into obscurity. But after Rodwell and Sinclair for example, players don't seem to take much notice.

You are just desperate for him to fail because he plays for every man's favourite underdog, Manchester City.

You nasty c***.

 

[Christian Slater]

I want him to fail.

 

[silkyman]

I think it's more down to the fact that De Bruyne has come in for a very high fee as well but there's no question he's been worth it and he's a sure starter. Sterling isn't, and while part of that fee was down to his potential, when you spend £50mill you'd expect it's for a guy that's going to start every game for you. And he doesn't. With the signing of Sane and Jesus you are also signalling that the position is still pretty much open and are hedging your bets with him. Basically he's got to be great this year or they've got to have poor seasons.
I also think it's pretty understandable why people want him to fail. You've spent a frankly ridiculous sum on a player who doesn't start for you at an important developmental stage of his career. Other clubs don't want you turning heads and buying up their young talent (or any age talent really) just to experiment with it a bit and if it fails go and lob another wad at another club. There's the thought/hope that other young players see this and choose to stay at their clubs develop themselves in a first 11 and get better as players rather than pick up huge cheques whilst letting their playing careers fade into obscurity. But after Rodwell and Sinclair for example, players don't seem to take much notice.

The point was more whether he can be written off already. He had a solid start, despite all the stuff off the pitch and the weight of the price tag, and tailed off along with the rest of the side. Does that mean he is suddenly shite? City didn't spend £40+m just to dick about with his career for shits and giggles. He's 21. Lots of young players burst onto the scene and then have a sticky patch when they stop being the surprise package.

He played 47 games last season and missed almost a month of the season through injury. That's hardly fading into obscurity!

Meanwhile, Rodwell was never fit and Sinclair was one punt that failed to pay off. Not every transfer works out. If they were any cop their careers since leaving wouldn't have been so bad. Some English players are so overrated it's unreal. People said the same stuff about Milner too, but never mention him in the 'oh, English players just waste their careers' arguments now.

 

[JimJams]

I'm not arsed about Sterling, just pointing out reasons people are quick to write him off. It's not exactly surprising or bemusing is it? You're one of the clubs that competes at the top, those with similar aspirations obviously want to see you fail and signings flopping is a major part of that. KDB hasn't, Sterling has yet to prove his worth and so naturally there are plenty of people who want to see him fail.
If a club can drop £50mill on players at will like Man City have then it's in everone elses interests that they have some serious fuck ups in there. If your signings constantly proved value for money, it wouldn't be much of a competition.

On the subject of him having plenty of time to prove he's worthy of the fee, that depends on what we're saying. If we're saying at some point in the next 10 years he's going to show that he's worthy of such a price tag, that's one thing. But does he have plenty of time to prove that at Man City? How many seasons does he get when City can just go out and buy the next big name without batting an eyelid?

 

[Ebeneezer Goode]

It should be cause for concern when randoms on an internet forum are more level-headed than the supposed experts in the media. It's not his fault that City paid stupid money for him, and I'm not sure scoring the same number of goals and getting more assists than the season before can be considered flopping either. It's almost negligent that so much pressure should be put on a 21 year old, especially when it's been so spiteful as it has been. It's like he's done something to offend the press behind the scenes that none of us have been made aware of. The ITV lot were on his back saying they "don't know what he does" after he'd registered 3 assists in 2 games for England. It's been bizarre at times.

 

[Stevencc]

Well he is an England player, he is always going to be either super-hyper-world-class or a FLOP in the national media.

 

[silkyman]

I'm not arsed about Sterling, just pointing out reasons people are quick to write him off. It's not exactly surprising or bemusing is it? You're one of the clubs that competes at the top, those with similar aspirations obviously want to see you fail and signings flopping is a major part of that. KDB hasn't, Sterling has yet to prove his worth and so naturally there are plenty of people who want to see him fail.
If a club can drop £50mill on players at will like Man City have then it's in everone elses interests that they have some serious fuck ups in there. If your signings constantly proved value for money, it wouldn't be much of a competition.

On the subject of him having plenty of time to prove he's worthy of the fee, that depends on what we're saying. If we're saying at some point in the next 10 years he's going to show that he's worthy of such a price tag, that's one thing. But does he have plenty of time to prove that at Man City? How many seasons does he get when City can just go out and buy the next big name without batting an eyelid?

It depends how well he does. If he does turn out to be a flop, he'll be sold on in a season or two. He'll still be in his early 20s though and if he does end up utterly on the scrap heap then that will be as much a failing of his own mentality and future managers as of City. But because, as you say, there are many people out there who are desperate for him, and it any other signing to flop, ot doesn't really matter what he does. 47 appearances apparently = 'fading into obscurity', after all.

 

[silkyman]

It should be cause for concern when randoms on an internet forum are more level-headed than the supposed experts in the media. It's not his fault that City paid stupid money for him, and I'm not sure scoring the same number of goals and getting more assists than the season before can be considered flopping either. It's almost negligent that so much pressure should be put on a 21 year old, especially when it's been so spiteful as it has been. It's like he's done something to offend the press behind the scenes that none of us have been made aware of. The ITV lot were on his back saying they "don't know what he does" after he'd registered 3 assists in 2 games for England. It's been bizarre at times.

It really was strange how so much of the blame was laid at his feet when the entire squad was piss poor. But then when the media last summer reported death threats against him and his family with a healthy dollop of 'ah, but he's minted, so fuck it', what do you expect?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...s-prompt-Merseyside-Police-investigation.html

 

[Hank]

Finally a signing, Papy Djilobodji for 8 million. Don't know much about him, 8 million seems a bit steep though.

 

[Super_horns]

Well never played at Chelsea (maybe a minute) so who knows..

A risk maybe at 8 million..

 

[Leewilson]

Ayew to West Ham for £20 million it seems. Bit surprised at that. Started off very sharp last season pretty akin to Payet in form. But seemed to tail off a lot as the season went on. Hard to say if that's due to Swansea's form going the same way or the fact he started off at a level that was normally far beyond him. Maybe Abertawe could give a fairer assessment but £20 million seems very steep.

 

[JimJams]

He got moved about a bit though as well, played as a striker in a few games due to a lack of faith in Gomis. Can't be blamed I don't think for dropping off. Especially in his first season in a new team/league.

 

[AFCB_Mark]

We were after Djilobodji last summer until chelsea came in and blew us out the water. But that was at a couple million. Now after playing one minute of football a year later he's worth 8m.

Goes to show how hard the market is for defenders I guess, as well as the natural inflation of this summer.

Have no idea where any potential much needed new defender for us may come from.

 

[JimJams]

He was apparently pretty impressive in his spell at Werder. Scored a couple of very important goals too.

 

[Nilsson]

Pogba's done, subject to a medical https://twitter.com/ManUtd/status/762287235794407425

Never thought there was a chance we'd ever get him back so I'm delighted.

 

[epic73]

Pogba's done, subject to a medical https://twitter.com/ManUtd/status/762287235794407425

Never thought there was a chance we'd ever get him back so I'm delighted.

How long is this transfer taking? Thought a fee was confirmed a month ago.