Coronavirus and League 2

[Chris FGR]

but they would have to play FGR....

Another positive.

See Vanni League 2 South wouldn’t be all that bad.

 

[TimeyWimey]

Best idea so far is the one I've come up with And then some people reckon I'm thick ha.

Here's my suggestion -

Scrap the league now and go with the current standings as far as promotion is concerned. BUT first the FL needs to ask the top seven sides if they fancy going up in the first place cos I'm sure that not all of them want to.

I'm 99% positive that only three L2 clubs will take up the FL's kind offer - Swindon, Plymouth and Exeter, the latter only because they've been trying to go up for decades and not because they think they can compete with the likes of Lincoln and Burton. The others will see common sense and decline promotion 'cos they'll well aware they'll only be getting a right spanking week in week out should they go up.

Do the same with L1's bottom 3 sides and I'm sure that shit sides like Southend and Bolton will be grateful for a spot in L2 next season. Unsure about Tranny's wishes though.

Just think about it. You know it makes sense.

Thought about it. It makes no sense.

 

[Vanni]

Thought about it. It makes no sense.

 

[Super_horns]

EFL going to help clubs out ;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51951389

 

[Laker]

tl;dr

Literally anything but this regionalised crap that I'm reading about.

I'm a U's fan, and in all probability, we'll get shafted and thrown into the Southern Division. And therein lies the problem. It is an undeniable fact that the strongest L2 sides are all to be found in the Southern* part of the country.

*southern = Land's End up to Coventry.

Happy to hear any other suggestions about how you want to get 56 league games into 8 months.

 

[Chris FGR]

Horrendous.

So many selfish c*** out there.

 

[Indian Dan]

Only the bin bags and tissues aisle. The crone behind him is fully laden.

 

[Chris FGR]

Loads of empty shelves when I went. Can't find paracetamol anywhere.

There are no shortages, if people don't grab everything for themselves then everyone can get what they need. There is no problem with the supply chain. Shop as normal and stop panicking. It's ridiculous.

 

[Stringy]

Are a significant number of people actually hoarding in massive quantities? I know people are definitely panic buying but I am reminded of the kulaks who were accused of hoarding the grain, but really there just wasn't enough grain. I have no idea how supermarkets maintain their stocks, but could it be plausible that even the demand for certain items increasing by 3 or 4 times could completely clear out their inventory? It wouldn't be in the interests of businesses ordinarily to stockpile certain items; they probably have a good idea due to years and years of trading exactly what they need at any given time under ordinary circumstances. People suddenly knowing there could be shortages and wanting to get even a week's worth or food could clean them out as I know a lot of people don't do weekly shops.
Anyway, supermarkets are definitely doing the right thing by introducing caps - it should be made emergency law that all supermarkets introduce caps on the number of products that can be bought by one person in my opinion.

 

[Chris FGR]

Tbf I think a lot of supermarkets operate with a just in time policy which has cut costs and reduced the number of depots/warehouses. So they take longer to service high demand as they don’t have the storage capacity. There is still enough for everyone though, the suppliers have plenty of stock, it will be available, the trick is not to buy it quicker then they can get it into the shops. We aren’t at war, no one will cut off our supplies, so no need to stockpile madly.

 

[oakroader]

anybody else thinking prince phillip must be shitting himself???...

 

[Super_horns]

No football till April 30th.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51962751

 

[dedwardp]

Personally I work from home and go to the shop quite a lot - I go out walking every day to get some fresh air and often pop into a shop to get a couple of bits rather than ever doing a particularly big shop, only ever half a basket and not a trolley etc.

So I'm not shopping any differently, but it's permanently busy now when I have popped in so I can only think that everyone who might usually only go once a week, say, are going a lot more frequently - possibly to look for something they couldn't find before. I haven't seen anyone with particularly silly shopping trolleys, but we're probably all guilty of buying an extra one of something at the moment, especially if we've been finding it difficult to get hold of. Coupled with the extra volume of shoppers, I'd think that's the cause of the problem really.

So we're all part of the problem really as opposed to what probably amounts to a very small minority who have genuinely gone a bit mad.

 

[Stagat]

anybody else thinking prince phillip must be shitting himself???...

Probably for a good few years now, yeah.

 

[Deepcut Cobbler]

Tbf I think a lot of supermarkets operate with a just in time policy which has cut costs and reduced the number of depots/warehouses. So they take longer to service high demand as they don’t have the storage capacity. There is still enough for everyone though, the suppliers have plenty of stock, it will be available, the trick is not to buy it quicker then they can get it into the shops. We aren’t at war, no one will cut off our supplies, so no need to stockpile madly.

That about sums it up, suppliers could have up to 30 days of supply which enables new stock to be stagger manufactured/produced to replace what is used over the 30 days. The resupply cycle then continues until the requirement is no more.

 

[shoddycollins]

I think dedwardp has it sussed.

Supermarkets have been limiting the numbers of things like toilet rolls per customer for a while now so while there were some people at the start of this who cleared the shelves of everything they could find, I don't think that's the case any more.

Instead like he says, it's people doing two shops a week instead of one, or going shopping and picking up a few extra non-perishables, all those people who normally don't buy more loo roll until they're on the last roll buying some even though they have two or three rolls left. You can't blame them for doing that, because they've seen empty shelves and they're being told by social media that the reason the shelves are empty is because of people buying in bulk; so they think 'I'm not going to do that because I have a social conscience, but I am going to be sensible and buy a couple of tins of soup and a four-pack of loo roll before the panic-buyers have off with it all'. It kind of snowballs actually because people like to get angry online, so they like to share stories about panic buyers, which only encourages more people to buy a little more and so it goes.

 

[Indian Dan]

anybody else thinking prince phillip must be shitting himself???...

Hope he’s got some bog roll

 

[KeithH]

Are a significant number of people actually hoarding in massive quantities? I know people are definitely panic buying but I am reminded of the kulaks who were accused of hoarding the grain, but really there just wasn't enough grain. I have no idea how supermarkets maintain their stocks, but could it be plausible that even the demand for certain items increasing by 3 or 4 times could completely clear out their inventory? It wouldn't be in the interests of businesses ordinarily to stockpile certain items; they probably have a good idea due to years and years of trading exactly what they need at any given time under ordinary circumstances. People suddenly knowing there could be shortages and wanting to get even a week's worth or food could clean them out as I know a lot of people don't do weekly shops.
Anyway, supermarkets are definitely doing the right thing by introducing caps - it should be made emergency law that all supermarkets introduce caps on the number of products that can be bought by one person in my opinion.

I live in a small hamlet of 14 houses in Scotland. Only 9 are permanently occupied and mostly with elderly residents. There is NO bus service and we are 18 miles from the nearest supermarket (empty). You would not want to meet 1 or 2 of my neighbors on these single track bendy roads (I find myself praying I don't)
I am doing a run to Dumfries (30 miles) for several of them in the morning (not sure how many yet as not all responded so far) Bog roll is bound to feature highly, should the shops refuse to sell me say 4 lots? how would I prove I am shopping for elderly people as well as my family?
It's not all black and white is it

 

[Laker]

I’ve just panic bought some more beer. Felt like I had to jump on the bandwagon somehow.

 

[Stringy]

I live in a small hamlet of 14 houses in Scotland. Only 9 are permanently occupied and mostly with elderly residents. There is NO bus service and we are 18 miles from the nearest supermarket (empty). You would not want to meet 1 or 2 of my neighbors on these single track bendy roads (I find myself praying I don't)
I am doing a run to Dumfries (30 miles) for several of them in the morning (not sure how many yet as not all responded so far) Bog roll is bound to feature highly, should the shops refuse to sell me say 4 lots? how would I prove I am shopping for elderly people as well as my family?
It's not all black and white is it

There'd have to be some circumstances where it was okay to buy in larger quantities, for example where someone is representing an organisation or a community of people who would otherwise be unable to obtain those supplies like in your case. However, I say make people go through the process of filling in a form explaining reasons or something so it's an effort to obtain unfair quantities. Unless the panic stops the alternative is continued shortages.

 

[Greenacres]

I haven't seen anyone with particularly silly shopping trolleys, but we're probably all guilty of buying an extra one of something at the moment, especially if we've been finding it difficult to get hold of. Coupled with the extra volume of shoppers, I'd think that's the cause of the problem really.

So we're all part of the problem really as opposed to what probably amounts to a very small minority who have genuinely gone a bit mad.

I went shopping last Saturday and bought a few items I needed for my dinners over the weekend and the whole lot came to not much more than a fiver. I saw people with trolleys laden so high it seemed like they were preparing for the arrival of armageddon combined with Christmas. Quite a few shelves were already bare or nearly, things like bog roll, eggs, flour and meat. I went back on Monday and there was virtually no fresh fruit or veg in addition to the gaps already mentioned. It must stop sooner or later, probably when the worst is past, which is predicted to be in a few weeks time...hopefully people will then see sense.

I have to admit that i really struggle with uncertainty...which hardly makes me an ideal football fan...and the current situation is pretty difficult for me. That might sound a little selfish, but I am probably not alone, I just hope you and those you hold dear are safe.

 

[Camborne Gills]

I’ve just panic bought some more beer. Felt like I had to jump on the bandwagon somehow.

I don'i normally drink at home, but i will be jumping on your bandwagon tomorrow.

 

[Indian Dan]

I bought 4 tins of corned beef

 

[Vanni]

Is this place even moderated at all? Let's stick to the footy please everybody. No? Alright then, carry on.

I believe panic buying is just plain wrong. I know that now is not the time for principles/personal beliefs and what have you, but I'm trying hard to refrain from doing what seemingly everybody else is resorting to for as long as I possibly can. So, for the moment, I'm sticking with 1 tin of X and 1 pack of Y.

Can't say the same for books though. These days are just perfect for reading all those books on my 'want to read' list. I'm also going through all those old match day programmes that I keep finding stashed in odd places all over my house

 

[dedwardp]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51951389

More details on the financial support the EFL are providing - £284,000 to each League Two side.

 

[TimeyWimey]

It's brilliant to see the Premier League stepping up with their £9billion tv rights. McDonalds, give 'em a free coffee.

Sorry, what?

 

[valefan16]

Not really giving clubs anything just a payment from next season earlier and a loan offer (more debt) so will probably still cause a gaping hole next season...

Thing is Boris is talking about 12 weeks today and that’s being seen as optimistic as to when things will start to turn for the better if we do as we are advised but that would be early June potentially so is the football starting May realistic and if not it doesn’t really give much hope of getting this done.

Add to that likely no chance to get friendlies in to get match fit and clubs with concerts or other events scheduled in June if things are back on by then and it all seems a bit unlikely.

Hope I’m wrong though.

 

[Deepcut Cobbler]

Not really giving clubs anything just a payment from next season earlier and a loan offer (more debt) so will probably still cause a gaping hole next season...

Thing is Boris is talking about 12 weeks today and that’s being seen as optimistic as to when things will start to turn for the better if we do as we are advised but that would be early June potentially so is the football starting May realistic and if not it doesn’t really give much hope of getting this done.

Add to that likely no chance to get friendlies in to get match fit and clubs with concerts or other events scheduled in June if things are back on by then and it all seems a bit unlikely.

Hope I’m wrong though.

It wouldn't surprise me if it was more October than any earlier.
12 weeks is not the timeline for re-starting everything, its the predicted approximation that we will have the virus 'under control' and be able to maintain a level of acceptable mortality.
There'll be a long way to go before being able to resume normality after that...

 

[Spanishstag]

Its going to be longer than 12 weeks dont know why bojo just doesn,t shut the bars and be done with it it must be spreading like wildfire

 

[Deepcut Cobbler]

Its going to be longer than 12 weeks dont know why bojo just doesn,t shut the bars and be done with it it must be spreading like wildfire

Trying to treat people like responsible adults.
Doesn't look like it is working with a minority of them does it?