European Union Referendum

[Magic]

I believe the leave win to be a socialist movement. Multi corps told everyone to remain yet they were ignored. I might be wrong but now the noose of uncontrolled immigration is seemingly gone there is a big appetite for a socialist government,

I'm not sure in what form, then? Because I don't believe Labour have performed so drastically badly in recent elections just because of their stance on the EU and now everyone's going to dive back in now there are supposedly better conditions for a socialist government?

The Tories would walk a snap election and whatever the appetite, it's going to take quite a lot of rebuilding before Labour becomes a real electoral force again imo.

 

[Abertawe]

As you have brought the bullshit immigration thing up again, I thought I'd quote the post you conveniently ignored earlier.

Context is lost on you (I'm quite surprised at your anger)

Immigration from outside the UK is generally confined to skilled workers and university students who pay huge fees to study here. It's in no way comparable to non-skilled eastern european migrants who come over to the detriment of disadvantaged young people.

 

[The Unbeliever]

Seriously it doesn't matter which party gets in. Either way your going to be bent over a table, trouser's down and shafted. The only difference with the socialists is that they will whisper in your ear that they love you really and it's for your own good whilst they are doing it.
Show me a politician that can unite people and I will start believing in them again.

 

[Abertawe]

I'm not sure in what form, then? Because I don't believe Labour have performed so drastically badly in recent elections just because of their stance on the EU and now everyone's going to dive back in now there are supposedly better conditions for a socialist government?

The Tories would walk a snap election and whatever the appetite, it's going to take quite a lot of rebuilding before Labour becomes a real electoral force again imo.

Well it's make or break now. The Blairite pricks have smelt blood, I just pray Jezza defeats em.

 

[Magic]

Well it's make or break now. The Blairite pricks have smelt blood, I just pray Jezza defeats em.

As much as I agree with quite a lot Corbyn says, I just can't see him leading the Labour fightback at all.

 

[Pagnell]

Context is lost on you (I'm quite surprised at your anger)

Immigration from outside the UK is generally confined to skilled workers and university students who pay huge fees to study here. It's in no way comparable to non-skilled eastern european migrants who come over to the detriment of disadvantaged young people.

Don't drop those straws now.

The simple fact is, this whole open border immigration argument from the Leave campaign was bollocks from the start, although it seems to have worked with yourself. In terms of net migration, the difference between yesterday and moving forward will be negligible. If it's the primary reason you supported Leave (without voting strangely), you've been had.

 

[Habbinalan]

I don't see how we can possibly call a GE halfway through negotiations with the EU. It would be suicide to effectively 'start again' with a different party.

I think I agree but that puts back the start of negotiations until early 2017 - which appears to be in the UK's power but the French and Germans can't get us out the door quick enough so will be applying all the pressure they can manage for us to get on with it.

We live in interesting times

 

[Abertawe]

Don't drop those straws now.

The simple fact is, this whole open border immigration argument from the Leave campaign was bollocks from the start, although it seems to have worked with yourself. In terms of net migration, the difference between yesterday and moving forward will be negligible. If it's the primary reason you supported Leave (without voting strangely), you've been had.

You've spent far too long in the suburbs of the south. You're blind to the problems that european immigration has caused up here in the north/midlands/Wales.

And no, immigration was actually way down on my reasons to leave. I want my nation to forge it's own path, not an unreasonable wish. Carry on being bitter pagz but the power of the people has won out, WE ARE THE PEOPLE!

 

[mnb089mnb]

They can't go back on it now.

 

[mnb089mnb]

You've spent far too long in the suburbs of the south. You're blind to the problems that european immigration has caused up here in the north/midlands/Wales.

And no, immigration was actually way down on my reasons to leave. I want my nation to forge it's own path, not an unreasonable wish. Carry on being bitter pagz but the power of the people has won out, WE ARE THE PEOPLE!

You didn't even vote.

 

[The Paranoid Pineapple]

Haha, well that's certainly striking. Have to say I'm quite the fan of the Guardian's rather bloated looking UK http://www.theguardian.com/politics...un/23/eu-referendum-live-results-and-analysis

 

[Abertawe]

You didn't even vote.

And it didn't make a difference. I will never vote unless it's to support a Corbyn government.

 

[TomPNE94]

You've spent far too long in the suburbs of the south. You're blind to the problems that european immigration has caused up here in the north/midlands/Wales.

Like what?

Oh you've just edited

 

[Pagnell]

Haha, well that's certainly striking. Have to say I'm quite the fan of the Guardian's rather bloated looking UK http://www.theguardian.com/politics...un/23/eu-referendum-live-results-and-analysis

London is the shit it's about to have.

 

[blade1889]

I think I agree but that puts back the start of negotiations until early 2017 - which appears to be in the UK's power but the French and Germans can't get us out the door quick enough so will be applying all the pressure they can manage for us to get on with it.

We live in interesting times

I don't disagree, I don't think we'll have another GE before the split from the EU for the points you and I raise

 

[Destruction]

Nicola Sturgeon now claiming that the result means that a new referendum must be on the cards for Scotland. Perhaps, but surely not for her given that she voted to remain. You can't ride two horses with one arse.

Yes but when she voted remain it was for a UK that was in the EU. What she voted for has now disappeared.

Scotland should and will go this time, don't blame them one bit.

 

[TimeyWimey]

This. On a loop.

 

[Abertawe]

I really can't see how Scotland will prosper on it's own. Me thinks it'll end up as a massive mistake which they'll deeply regret.

 

[TomPNE94]

I really can't see how Scotland will prosper on it's own. Me thinks it'll end up as a massive mistake which they'll deeply regret.

Bit like the UK out of the EU

 

[mnb089mnb]

Have already seen a Polish woman who expressed her sadness at UK leaving the EU on a local facebook group be told "you know where the airport is love". UK won't be a friendly place for immigrants in the immediate future, and the country will be poorer for it.

This doesn't surprise me. I think we're in for a lot of this over the next few months.
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/welsh-remain-campaigner-told-pack-11520081

 

[Camborne Gills]

HOW AGES VOTED (YouGov poll) 18-24: 75% Remain 25-49: 56% Remain 50-64: 44% Remain 65+: 39% Remain

Thanks you old c***.

My pleasure (an old c***)

 

[mnb089mnb]

And it didn't make a difference. I will never vote unless it's to support a Corbyn government.

Not sure you'll ever get a chance to vote for that.

 

[Christian Slater]

Not to claim everyone that voted out is a racist, but there'll be a lot of people who did that won't understand why brown people are still coming over.

 

[blade1889]

I really can't see how Scotland will prosper on it's own. Me thinks it'll end up as a massive mistake which they'll deeply regret.

I think it would be very bad for Scotland and the rest of the U.K., still expect them to do it though. Leaving. The U.K. To join a now failing EU (whose failure has just been sped up) would be ridiculous.


Votes of no confidence now being sent in on Corbyn.

 

[Camborne Gills]

When they turned to right, you have a choice in life and they are clearly choosing populist, right-wing politics. City life is the only future, they are going to be left behind with our without the EU, I used to think we should try and help these people but now I have no time for them, they've betrayed us and they can reap the whirlwind.

Corbyn should leave immediately, he has been utterly pathetic in this.

Corbyn was even involved? Must have missed that.

 

[blade1889]

Corbyn was even involved? Must have missed that.

Did you blink?

 

[Camborne Gills]

Must have

 

[mente captus]

Don't drop those straws now.

The simple fact is, this whole open border immigration argument from the Leave campaign was bollocks from the start, although it seems to have worked with yourself. In terms of net migration, the difference between yesterday and moving forward will be negligible. If it's the primary reason you supported Leave (without voting strangely), you've been had.

yeah, all these arguments to leave are not new and reminds me of our elections back in 1933
-immigration
-we want our country back
- the polish

i believe the Hakenkreuz flag is available, fuck the Union Jack, show the fucking foreigners who you are!

 

[Aber gas]

I think it would be very bad for Scotland and the rest of the U.K., still expect them to do it though. Leaving. The U.K. To join a now failing EU (whose failure has just been sped up) would be ridiculous.


Votes of no confidence now being sent in on Corbyn.

Very stupid move from the PLP. The party will back him massively

 

[RavenBish]

Not to claim everyone that voted out is a racist, but there'll be a lot of people who did that won't understand why brown people are still coming over.

They're probably not capable of understanding anything to be fair to them.

I do wonder if there's loads of out voters who were taken in by the whole 'make Britain Great again' shenanigans and are now reading the news and regret it. If we had another referendum in a week, the vote would be quite different imo.