General Championship stuff including non-Midlands teams

[Luke_1884]

Take Pearson so we don't have to pay him off...

 

[hodge]

I think you're a bit rose-tinted here, Villa are a huge, cash-rich club with massive appeal for any manager in this league.

Lee Johnson doesn't really strike me as the most loyal of managers either based on his previous moves.

That said, this is Villa and they will probably go for a 'name' rather than something sensible.

Maybe, but Johnson has a lot of history with the club having been a player here as well, when he applied to Oldham for example Lansdown was one of the people he went to for help. Having someone like Lansdown as owner must be most managers wish, rarely says no to a request for funds and willing to give his managers time.

No doubt Villa has appeal, but in their current situation you'd have to think managers will think twice about whether its the right move for them at the time if their current team is in the top 6. They look more likely to go down again at the moment rather than even pull things together.

 

[City169]

Maybe, but Johnson has a lot of history with the club having been a player here as well, when he applied to Oldham for example Lansdown was one of the people he went to for help. Having someone like Lansdown as owner must be most managers wish, rarely says no to a request for funds and willing to give his managers time.

No doubt Villa has appeal, but in their current situation you'd have to think managers will think twice about whether its the right move for them at the time if their current team is in the top 6. They look more likely to go down again at the moment rather than even pull things together.

I believe he had asked to use Steve Lansdown as a reference for when he applied for the Oldham job.

The 2 clearly think of each other highly.
Yes Villa have a larger base appeal than most in this league, but on an individual level we are probably more appealing for LJ.

 

[MagpieBee]

I kind of have to agree on the rose tinted glasses. Consider us, we've finished 5th and 9th, and look well placed for another play off push. Better than most teams in this league can hope for. And yet, we'd struggle to take a manager off 90% of the teams in this league (partly because we'd never want to)

If Lee Johnson had the chance to go to Villa he'd snap your hand off for it. Don't get too excited by the new stand you barely fill and a Chelsea loanee scoring some goals.

 

[hodge]

I kind of have to agree on the rose tinted glasses. Consider us, we've finished 5th and 9th, and look well placed for another play off push. Better than most teams in this league can hope for. And yet, we'd struggle to take a manager off 90% of the teams in this league (partly because we'd never want to)

If Lee Johnson had the chance to go to Villa he'd snap your hand off for it. Don't get too excited by the new stand you barely fill and a Chelsea loanee scoring some goals.

Thing is I would agree with you, we'd struggle to persuade a manager to leave a club in this division for us as well. However its a different story about losing your manager, if it were Cotterill and not Johnson I'd agree he'd take the move to Villa, but the combination of Johnson's history with the club, his relationship with Lansdown and how badly Villa are doing this season (the key one) I think the move may not seem so appealing. If Norwich or Newcastle were looking if their managers were poached then yeah he'd be gone in a heartbeat and you wouldn't blame him, but Villa are in a mess, who knows what state they'll be in by January when they can buy again.

Oh and as for our new stand we can't fill, don't worry we're still averaging 20,000 attendances without filling it and we have Tammy for the season, what's not to enjoy?

 

[JJH]

I kind of have to agree on the rose tinted glasses. Consider us, we've finished 5th and 9th, and look well placed for another play off push. Better than most teams in this league can hope for. And yet, we'd struggle to take a manager off 90% of the teams in this league (partly because we'd never want to)

If Lee Johnson had the chance to go to Villa he'd snap your hand off for it. Don't get too excited by the new stand you barely fill and a Chelsea loanee scoring some goals.

The reason for that is because you're one of the smallest clubs in the division with a small budget.

By law, we can't fill even half of the new stand. You seem bitter that Tammy didn't join you, chin up.

 

[MagpieBee]

The reason for that is because you're one of the smallest clubs in the division with a small budget.

By law, we can't fill even half of the new stand. You seem bitter that Tammy didn't join you, chin up.

Don't need Tammy, got Scotty Hogan.

True, we do have a small budget, but given the way we use it we seem to be able to fight at the top end of the division pretty consistently.

 

[JJH]

Don't need Tammy, got Scotty Hogan.

True, we do have a small budget, but given the way we use it we seem to be able to fight at the top end of the division pretty consistently.

...until he gets crocked again.

Yeah, your recruitment policy works well, I've praised it on here numerous times.

 

[BCFC David]

I kind of have to agree on the rose tinted glasses. Consider us, we've finished 5th and 9th, and look well placed for another play off push. Better than most teams in this league can hope for. And yet, we'd struggle to take a manager off 90% of the teams in this league (partly because we'd never want to)

If Lee Johnson had the chance to go to Villa he'd snap your hand off for it. Don't get too excited by the new stand you barely fill and a Chelsea loanee scoring some goals.

If now isn't the time to time to get excited then I'm not sure when is. Have you been selling your dump out every week then? Just I see you struggle to get 6 figures?

I wouldn't class your 9th as a play off push either, you looked like you may get sucked in to the relegation fight with a couple of months left.

 

[MagpieBee]

If now isn't the time to time to get excited then I'm not sure when is. Have you been selling your dump out every week then? Just I see you struggle to get 6 figures?

I wouldn't class your 9th as a play off push either, you looked like you may get sucked in to the relegation fight with a couple of months left.

There isn't a stadium in England that can hold 6 figures...? Anyway - most people love Griffin Park, certainly has a lot more to it than most stadiums in this division (before you start jumping up and down and getting yourself all in a muddle, that's not me saying Ashton Gate is crap, don't read stuff into things that actually isn't said...)

Speaking of which, wasn't saying 9th was a play off push, but 5th definitely was given we ended up in them, and we look pretty good for another go at them now. Also, a 9th placed finish last year was pretty amazing given everything that went against us last year, especially considering the size of the club and budget.

Finally, I'm not saying you guys shouldn't be excited, I was disagreeing though that everything is so perfect, amazing and rosy at Bristol City that Lee Johnson wouldn't want to leave for Villa.

 

[BCFC David]

You were being patronising. I could probably take that from a Newcastle or Norwich fan, but a Brentford fan? About empty seats? Really?

I agree about the stadium btw. I love my visits to Griffin Park. It maybe a dump but I enjoy it more than say Reading.

 

[Aaron-Bcfc]

I kind of have to agree on the rose tinted glasses. Consider us, we've finished 5th and 9th, and look well placed for another play off push. Better than most teams in this league can hope for. And yet, we'd struggle to take a manager off 90% of the teams in this league (partly because we'd never want to)

Good thing we're nowhere near as small as you then.

 

[Six pints of STELLA]

Bristol City are massive. Watch out.

 

[Ciderhead]

If Villa were interested in Johnson of course he'd be tempted. But it's all immaterial, they won't be. They're looking for instant results they'll want a name, not someone with less than a year's managerial experience at this level. And if they were to go for someone up and coming Wagner would be far and away the obvious choice

 

[TomPNE94]

You were being patronising. I could probably take that from a Newcastle or Norwich fan, but a Brentford fan? About empty seats? Really?

I agree about the stadium btw. I love my visits to Griffin Park. It maybe a dump but I enjoy it more than say Reading.

Griffin Park isn't a dump at all.

 

[BCFC David]

Griffin Park isn't a dump at all.

Course it isn't to you. You're from ooooppp North. To us civilised southern folk......

Dump? Old fashioned? Point being they can't fill it. And capacity is what? 12000?




Actually no, my point was that someone who can't shift 10000 tickets at home shouldn't really be mocking " a new stand that we can barely fill"

For the record I like Brentford. A lovely little club punching well above its weight.

 

[JJH]

Griffin Park isn't a dump at all.

It is, it's a shithole, good away end though.

 

[TomPNE94]

Course it isn't to you. You're from ooooppp North. To us civilised southern folk......

Dump? Old fashioned? Point being they can't fill it. And capacity is what? 12000?




Actually no, my point was that someone who can't shift 10000 tickets at home shouldn't really be mocking " a new stand that we can barely fill"

For the record I like Brentford. A lovely little club punching well above its weight.

Now who's being patronising.

 

[TomPNE94]

It is, it's a shithole, good away end though.

It's a fucking quality ground.

 

[JJH]

It's a fucking quality ground.

I agree mate, but I still think it's a bit rundown.

 

[villa loyal]

Bristol City are massive. Watch out.

I thought it was Sheffield Wednesday who had the MASSIVE tag.

 

[BCFC David]

I thought it was Sheffield Wednesday who had the MASSIVE tag.

We are all massive down here, as you've found out.

 

[villa loyal]

We are all massive down here, as you've found out.

and we will keep finding out by the look of it.

 

[MagpieBee]

Course it isn't to you. You're from ooooppp North. To us civilised southern folk......

Dump? Old fashioned? Point being they can't fill it. And capacity is what? 12000?




Actually no, my point was that someone who can't shift 10000 tickets at home shouldn't really be mocking " a new stand that we can barely fill"

For the record I like Brentford. A lovely little club punching well above its weight.

Was only mocking it because it seems to be the reason every Bristol City fan has gone all billy-big-bollocks this year.

Griffin Park is a dump, it's falling apart, the toilets and food facilities are horrible, but atmosphere wise it's one of the best in this league (notice I say one of the best, not *the* best, before you start listing clubs with supposedly better atmospheres to try and prove me wrong) and I wouldn't give up the terraces for anything.

Also, if we're going to throw attendance arguments around, I think we're doing pretty well to get 10,000 these days given the attendances we've had in the past, and the huge number of clubs there are in London.

Anyway, done biccering with fans who get their knickers in a twist because a couple of people suggested their manager might quite fancy the job at Villa.

 

[JJH]

Was only mocking it because it seems to be the reason every Bristol City fan has gone all billy-big-bollocks this year.

Griffin Park is a dump, it's falling apart, the toilets and food facilities are horrible, but atmosphere wise it's one of the best in this league (notice I say one of the best, not *the* best, before you start listing clubs with supposedly better atmospheres to try and prove me wrong) and I wouldn't give up the terraces for anything.

Also, if we're going to throw attendance arguments around, I think we're doing pretty well to get 10,000 these days given the attendances we've had in the past, and the huge number of clubs there are in London.

Anyway, done biccering with fans who get their knickers in a twist because a couple of people suggested their manager might quite fancy the job at Villa.

Who's gone "Billy-big-bollocks"? I'm enjoying the ride, new stadium with decent numbers at home games and a half decent side on the pitch with a manager who loves the club.

As for whether you think Johnson would leave or not it's obviously subjective and thus far pure speculation.

Griffin Park is a dump as I said earlier, but the away end is my favourite in this division. Will be a shame when you move onto bigger things.

 

[BCFC David]

Was only mocking it because it seems to be the reason every Bristol City fan has gone all billy-big-bollocks this year.

Griffin Park is a dump, it's falling apart, the toilets and food facilities are horrible, but atmosphere wise it's one of the best in this league (notice I say one of the best, not *the* best, before you start listing clubs with supposedly better atmospheres to try and prove me wrong) and I wouldn't give up the terraces for anything.

Also, if we're going to throw attendance arguments around, I think we're doing pretty well to get 10,000 these days given the attendances we've had in the past, and the huge number of clubs there are in London.

Anyway, done biccering with fans who get their knickers in a twist because a couple of people suggested their manager might quite fancy the job at Villa.

I don't see any City fans going Big Bollocks. Most are playing this season start down. Even suggesting the play offs arnt likely.

I didn't argue the fact that Johnson may be interested, I took issue with the mocking. So that's how this began.

Ahwell as you say, moving on.

 

[City169]

Was only mocking it because it seems to be the reason every Bristol City fan has gone all billy-big-bollocks this year.

Griffin Park is a dump, it's falling apart, the toilets and food facilities are horrible, but atmosphere wise it's one of the best in this league (notice I say one of the best, not *the* best, before you start listing clubs with supposedly better atmospheres to try and prove me wrong) and I wouldn't give up the terraces for anything.

Also, if we're going to throw attendance arguments around, I think we're doing pretty well to get 10,000 these days given the attendances we've had in the past, and the huge number of clubs there are in London.

Anyway, done biccering with fans who get their knickers in a twist because a couple of people suggested their manager might quite fancy the job at Villa.

No one is going billy big bollocks about this.

Fucking hell, I'm one of the most positive about our chances and I don't think we will be in the promotion race or anything.

About the Villa job, if it was anyone else who was managing us and Villa were interested then the points you lot make would carry water, but Lee J is a different animal.
I'm not saying he wouldn't be interested, but him and Lansdown get on incredibly, Lansdown supported Johnson through his coaching badges and was a reference when LJ applied for the Oldham job.

There has been a plan to have LJ here as a manager for a few years now and LJ will not only want to repay the faith in him, but he has also spoken of wanting to do with us what he couldn't as a player and get that promotion.

 

[Aaron-Bcfc]

Who's gone "Billy-big-bollocks"?

None of us have. I predicted 8th either here or on our forum and I remember it being one of the more positive predictions. He's chatting fucking shite.

 

[villa loyal]

None of us have. I predicted 8th either here or on our forum and I remember it being one of the more positive predictions. He's chatting fucking shite.

chat shit get banged??

 

[JJH]

Ohhhhhhhhh Tammy Tammy