Stickied League 2 Away Support Thread 2024/25

[FiRTHYY]

With not owning the stadium what happens with hospitality etc and non match day revenue of out interest?

Anything we generate is ours, minus overheads.

 

[valefan16]

Anything we generate is ours, minus overheads.

Thats decent then in that respect and can be an issue.

 

[mozzavale]

What on earth are you blabbering on about?

What each club takes to either ground historically is completely irrelevant. You’re 2nd in the league, it’s Boxing Day and relatively local.

Let me ask you this. If we were in your shoes, do you think we’d bring 1,300 or would we come closer to selling out? Don’t give me this spiel about population and bigger fanbase. It’s L2 football and we’ve spent 6 years here.

You'd sell 1,299. Kidding, you're a bigger club so that's the reason why you'd sell out. I was a bit disappointed at first but in truth, when was the last time we took over 1k to Bradford? First game of the 16/17 season? Even then think it was less than 1,100.

We do have a fickle fan base. You can gauge our away followings off the mood around the place. When the ticket details were released we were doing much better, still top, I'd have guessed 2k. Our form is why it's so low. We took 1,400 boxing day to Rotherham 2012 when 2nd in the league.

 

[Jimmy Anderson]

According to the brain dead Bradford fan taking 20 percent of your home support is now poor about sums up that fan base and your posts. Don't ever comment about anything other than attendances. Bradford would have to bring 3000 to 4000 to vale to take 20 percent which has never happened. 1200 is th most Bradford have ever taken it vale and that isn't even 10 percent of there support so Bradford away support is the poorest in the division.

 

[Kauto Star]

According to the brain dead Bradford fan taking 20 percent of your home support is now poor about sums up that fan base and your posts. Don't ever comment about anything other than attendances. Bradford would have to bring 3000 to 4000 to vale to take 20 percent which has never happened. 1200 is th most Bradford have ever taken it vale and that isn't even 10 percent of there support so Bradford away support is the poorest in the division.

Stick to cricket Jimmy

 

[Limerick Mariner]

According to the brain dead Bradford fan taking 20 percent of your home support is now poor about sums up that fan base and your posts. Don't ever comment about anything other than attendances. Bradford would have to bring 3000 to 4000 to vale to take 20 percent which has never happened. 1200 is th most Bradford have ever taken it vale and that isn't even 10 percent of there support so Bradford away support is the poorest in the division.

We don't know how many home fans go to Bradford games though. Bradford fans might be able to estimate it - maybe current average is 12-13k?

 

[FiRTHYY]

According to the brain dead Bradford fan taking 20 percent of your home support is now poor about sums up that fan base and your posts. Don't ever comment about anything other than attendances. Bradford would have to bring 3000 to 4000 to vale to take 20 percent which has never happened. 1200 is th most Bradford have ever taken it vale and that isn't even 10 percent of there support so Bradford away support is the poorest in the division.

At least quote me before you spout absolute drivel.

You remind me of Bury back in the day, when they used to average a smidge over 2,000 at home. They’d generally travel quite well away from home, averaging 500-600. The home-to-away ratio was a frequent ‘gotcha’ card for them to play, too. It merely highlights how poorly you’re supported at home, and it’s not the flex you think it is.

This is why your United and Arsenal’s of this world have such terrible away followings, you know, because they only fetch 4% of their home average. Yawn.

Support fluctuates depending on success - even more so away from home. Again, comparing what we’ve taken to Vale isn’t even remotely comparable.

You’ve sold 1,100 tickets. In your position, Walsall, Doncaster, Chesterfield, Notts, Grimsby, Tranmere, Carlisle and possibly Crewe would bring more.

Again, poor numbers!

 

[FiRTHYY]

We don't know how many home fans go to Bradford games though. Bradford fans might be able to estimate it - maybe current average is 12-13k?

Too much gets made of this.

On a Tues night, circa 10k-12k.

On a weekend, the stands are full and bums on seats reflect the official attendance.

You won’t see the anti-board brigade banging on about Valley Parade being sparse on a Saturday, because it isn’t and it doesn’t suit their agenda.

 

[Limerick Mariner]

At least quote me before you spout absolute drivel.

You remind me of Bury back in the day, when they used to average a smidge over 2,000 at home. They’d generally travel quite well away from home, averaging 500-600. The home-to-away ratio was a frequent ‘gotcha’ card for them to play, too. It merely highlights how poorly you’re supported at home, and it’s the flex you think it is.

This is why your United and Arsenal’s of this world have such terrible away followings, you know, because they only fetch 4% of their home average. Yawn.

Support fluctuates depending on success - even more so away from home. Again, comparing what we’ve taken to Vale isn’t even remotely comparable.

You’ve sold 1,100 tickets. In your position, Walsall, Doncaster, Chesterfield, Notts, Grimsby, Tranmere, Carlisle and possibly Crewe would bring more.

Again, poor numbers!

Crewe's away % travelling will have taken a big knock after the last home game. Brought 2.5% to GY on that basis. I rather think we are in one off territory though - highest home crowd since 1969 I gather...

 

[mozzavale]

At least quote me before you spout absolute drivel.

You remind me of Bury back in the day, when they used to average a smidge over 2,000 at home. They’d generally travel quite well away from home, averaging 500-600. The home-to-away ratio was a frequent ‘gotcha’ card for them to play, too. It merely highlights how poorly you’re supported at home, and it’s not the flex you think it is.

This is why your United and Arsenal’s of this world have such terrible away followings, you know, because they only fetch 4% of their home average. Yawn.

Support fluctuates depending on success - even more so away from home. Again, comparing what we’ve taken to Vale isn’t even remotely comparable.

You’ve sold 1,100 tickets. In your position, Walsall, Doncaster, Chesterfield, Notts, Grimsby, Tranmere, Carlisle and possibly Crewe would bring more.

Again, poor numbers!

Club confirmed today we've sold just under 1,300.

Crewe? No chance, not having that.

For me it's a, meh, following. Not great, not shit. If we're looking for a comparison, the closest you'll find is probably the 2017 game that Alex Jones scored the winner, Bradford won that game to go 5th in League 1. Away following that day was 1,100.

To be fair, the % of home attendance is relevant at our level where clubs don't sell out away ends every week. The Arsenal, Man U, any other prem club that sells out week in week out, only becomes relevant when everyone that wants to attend, does. Most weeks, any Bradford fan that wants to attend,can as you don't sell out every week. You can't prevent it being used to say a clubs away following is good, then return the argument by flipping it say it actually shows your home support is good. It's one or the other.

And re our position, they key here is form. Fans get excited when they think there's a good chance of seeing their team win. We're fickle like that. Some clubs have great away support regardless, usually those with ridiculous distances to travel. Portsmouth, Ipswich, Carlisle, Plymouth.

The rest of us have good followings, ok followings and shit followings. It happens.

 

[WilsdenBantam]

We never travel well to Port Vale, and vice versa. Best just to leave it there we’ve spent what feels like a 100 years in the same league and both areas are shitholes.

 

[mozzavale]

That's it, we're similar with Swindon. Often take 2 or 300, yet we'll usually take 1,000 to Oxford.

I said a few weeks ago, no club should be knocked for their away followings at the moment. We've got 3 away games in 10 days coming up. I've chosen the Doncaster one of the 3. Only one I've never been. Just me and my daughter it will cost us £80 for tickets and coach alone. Fair play to people that can go every game.

We're 4th division clubs at the end of the day. Anything over 1k should be applauded.

 

[OneDecentLester]

We travel to Bradford this Sunday and believe we’ve sold over 2,000 so far. The bottom part of the stand behind the goal has gone on sale now too.

Reckon we might sell out or get very close to doing so.

Not sure on numbers we’re taking to Fleetwood this Thursday, but everyone I know seems to be going to that one too so should be a decent following there.

 

[Dan Phillips]

On what planet is 1,300 on Boxing Day poor? Lol.

It's Christmas, no public transport, weather is shite and money doesn't grow on trees? Not to mention (and the biggest factor in whether fans bother or not), we're in terrible form and playing awful, boring, negative football. This December wage has to last me (and everyone else) 5 weeks instead of 4. It's bloody expensive. Bradford, Grimsby, Doncaster, Chesterfield and Colchester away all within that timeframe as well. Will cost upwards of several hundred pounds just for travel and tickets alone.

 

[GTFCfish]

According to the brain dead Bradford fan taking 20 percent of your home support is now poor about sums up that fan base and your posts. Don't ever comment on anything other than attendances.

Nah that's bollocks mate, he once commented on Bradford having the second best pitch in the division too.

 

[Grimsby Road]

Too much gets made of this.

On a Tues night, circa 10k-12k.

On a weekend, the stands are full and bums on seats reflect the official attendance.

You won’t see the anti-board brigade banging on about Valley Parade being sparse on a Saturday, because it isn’t and it doesn’t suit their agenda.

That guy who does the podcast 'lower league limit or' something is (was) always trying to stir the pot with that (I think he used to be your chicken mascot ?) He's now doing the same with Swindon ; seems to be an active trouble causer of fractioned clubs

 

[Grimsby Road]

That's it, we're similar with Swindon. Often take 2 or 300, yet we'll usually take 1,000 to Oxford.

I said a few weeks ago, no club should be knocked for their away followings at the moment. We've got 3 away games in 10 days coming up. I've chosen the Doncaster one of the 3. Only one I've never been. Just me and my daughter it will cost us £80 for tickets and coach alone. Fair play to people that can go every game.

We're 4th division clubs at the end of the day. Anything over 1k should be applauded.

How many do you think will travel to us on Sunday mate ?

 

[Grimsby Road]

At least quote me before you spout absolute drivel.

You remind me of Bury back in the day, when they used to average a smidge over 2,000 at home. They’d generally travel quite well away from home, averaging 500-600. The home-to-away ratio was a frequent ‘gotcha’ card for them to play, too. It merely highlights how poorly you’re supported at home, and it’s not the flex you think it is.

This is why your United and Arsenal’s of this world have such terrible away followings, you know, because they only fetch 4% of their home average. Yawn.

Support fluctuates depending on success - even more so away from home. Again, comparing what we’ve taken to Vale isn’t even remotely comparable.

You’ve sold 1,100 tickets. In your position, Walsall, Doncaster, Chesterfield, Notts, Grimsby, Tranmere, Carlisle and possibly Crewe would bring more.

Again, poor numbers!

We have sold 1600 so far for our game at your place in a couple of weeks - seems ages away ,what is it 4 games in 9 days or summat ? squads will be challenged here

 

[FiRTHYY]

We have sold 1600 so far for our game at your place in a couple of weeks - seems ages away ,what is it 4 games in 9 days or summat ? squads will be challenged here

Great numbers, baring in mind it’s an early KO and on SKY.

 

[Jimmy Anderson]

How many do you think will travel to us on Sunday mate ?

No update on tickets sold but we're only allocated 812 tickets. I think there's 5 or 6 coaches going so thats 250 to 300. Personally can't see it being more than 500 which isn't great but is double what went last time vale played Grimsby away. Also 1300 away at Bradford is 600 more than what went when vale played Bradford away last time and about 250 more than what vale have ever taken to Bradford previously.

 

[CFC91]

We travel to Bradford this Sunday and believe we’ve sold over 2,000 so far. The bottom part of the stand behind the goal has gone on sale now too.

Reckon we might sell out or get very close to doing so.

Not sure on numbers we’re taking to Fleetwood this Thursday, but everyone I know seems to be going to that one too so should be a decent following there.

Over 1000 to Fleetwood which considering the distance and relative appeal for Boxing Day is good as well

I’m doing both but only because there’s a bus going from a pub in Hasland on Boxing Day, wouldnt bother if I had to make my own way there.

Loads doing Bradford I know, we’ve got 2 coaches going of just our mates, Sunday league team etc which is pretty good gojng from a group of lads alone. Not had those numbers since Watford

 

[mozzavale]

How many do you think will travel to us on Sunday mate ?

Hard to say. I'd be surprised if it's over 500. Maybe 400 or so.

 

[CFC91]

How many do you think will travel to us on Sunday mate ?

What’s max allocation at Grimsby? Ours go on sale to ST holders today for the Jan game

 

[Son of Cod]

Over 1000 to Fleetwood which considering the distance and relative appeal for Boxing Day is good as well

I’m doing both but only because there’s a bus going from a pub in Hasland on Boxing Day, wouldnt bother if I had to make my own way there.

Loads doing Bradford I know, we’ve got 2 coaches going of just our mates, Sunday league team etc which is pretty good gojng from a group of lads alone. Not had those numbers since Watford

 

[Son of Cod]

What’s max allocation at Grimsby? Ours go on sale to ST holders today for the Jan game

1200ish. Some of your pals might end up missing out.

 

[GTFCfish]

Great numbers, baring in mind it’s an early KO and on SKY.

Gutted I’m having to miss it this year 4th Jan is my first night back in after new year, been there the last 2 seasons and planned to go again but sadly not which is typical now we’re actually pretty decent and might get a result there for once.

 

[Limerick Mariner]

Great numbers, baring in mind it’s an early KO and on SKY.

Not on Sky as far as I know? Just the usual West Yorks plod requirement for an early KO.

 

[BarrieOwl]

Always funny reading Bradfords Walter Mittys posts.

 

[Meadow]

That guy who does the podcast 'lower league limit or' something is (was) always trying to stir the pot with that (I think he used to be your chicken mascot ?) He's now doing the same with Swindon ; seems to be an active trouble causer of fractioned clubs

To be fair, he went to Swindon in support of their protest. He could have gone to Notts County, he chose the longer journey.