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I genuinely really like Meadow Lane, except that concourse in the away bit which is wholly inadequate, it’s a shame the home fans do not create a better atmosphere.

Got a good stadium and side so no excuses really.

I agree, it’s a neat stadium and when built i can’t imagine many involved would’ve imagined it would’ve hosted conference football.
 

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Now you are just acting dumb Adam. You and your buddy Conker would never make subtle and none too subtle digs at Notts , wait let me check... oh yeah on this very thread earlier this afternoon and earlier this morning. At least have a little think before posting chap. Are you going to claim you don't? Which would be marvelous if you did.

If you make a dig (no atmosphere), expect one back (small 3 sided ground). It really is that simple.

As for the outer Manchester living.....If only there was some sort of search facility that allowed you to look up what someone said about a specific subject like the city of Manchester. My advice to you is don't :lol:

As you should be fully aware the whole long standing Manchester joke was born purely out of you mentioning it so regularly to a frankly embarrassing level. I assume as an attempt to disassociate you with the town of Mansfield? But there may be another reason.

So yes very comparable and beautifully hypocritical. Although I sense someone will have to point this out to you :shifty:
 

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I agree, it’s a neat stadium and when built i can’t imagine many involved would’ve imagined it would’ve hosted conference football.

Yup you are right you never attempt a dig. Perfect timing. Muchas gracias.

I'd suggest absolutely nobody imagined that whereas I can't say them when Field Mill was built or when the Bishop Street Stand was condemned and closed. Pre-planning?
 

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Yes it can but only lower attended football matches.
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believe that all of the 12,950 who attended the Notts County Vs Grimsby game back in August were safe. Plus the away section had loads of empty seats so the fans could spread spread out in comfort. Added safety.

Doubt that will be the case in the smaller stand at Mansfield where I expect it to be packed to the rafters.
Not true because you tarp off the bottom rows and close the blocks off on the Kop side of the away end.

The point is that when Field Mill is full it can safely host a football match and the flow of people in and out the ground without the need for additional police, but when Meadow Lane is it can't.

When you add to this the fact that Grimsby and Mansfield fans haven't been galavanting around the country causing trouble like Notts have this season, you must be able to see why it's a tad frustrating that we're the ones being messed around...again.
 

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I'm not sure if there's an explicit agreement but I'm fairly sure every time we've clashed with Forest since the start of last season, we've been the ones to move, when before then we took it in turns. It may be that Nottinghamshire police have taken that into account when deciding which game to move, if they're responsible for Mansfield and Forest, but that is purely speculation.
 

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I am fully aware of how they tarp off areas in the JS stand at Meadow Lane, and there were plenty of empty seats. Don't tell me every seat was occupied because it simply wasn't unless the toilets under the stand were full throughout the game.

I don't see your point as Meadow Lane won't be full against Doncaster Rovers, or even close to full capacity so that's a moot point. The 12,950 in attendance for the Grimsby game were all safe.

I believe the police and relevant authorities look back beyond just this current season when judging categories of football matches and the potential for trouble.

Some clubs have a far worse reputation and rap sheet than others, as I'm sure you are aware.

You are clearly frustrated about the kick off time being moved around , understandably so. I was just suggesting the reason(s) why your game at Field Mill was and the one at Meadow Lane wasn't. We have suffered similar changes in times and dates when our big brother are at home.

"Shit flows down stream"
 

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Yep same, it's always us that gets dicked around. The most laughable part of this decision for me was that Notts were kicking off at Crewe days before. Doesn't suit the police/media agenda though, does it? Why prevent grand old Notts from going around terrifying poor linesmen when we can pick on coke snorting Grimsby and nasty Mansfield?

Don’t really get why we’re relevant here? Our games have never been moved because of Mansfield and vice versa, it’s a totally different set of safety groups etc making the decision. Not even as if there’d be people coming to Nottingham on the way with it being Boxing Day and no trains.
 

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I am fully aware of how they tarp off areas in the JS stand at Meadow Lane, and there were plenty of empty seats. Don't tell me every seat was occupied because it simply wasn't unless the toilets under the stand were full throughout the game.

I don't see your point as Meadow Lane won't be full against Doncaster Rovers, or even close to full capacity so that's a moot point. The 12,950 in attendance for the Grimsby game were all safe.

I believe the police and relevant authorities look back beyond just this current season when judging categories of football matches and the potential for trouble.

Some clubs have a far worse reputation and rap sheet than others, as I'm sure you are aware.

You are clearly frustrated about the kick off time being moved around , understandably so. I was just suggesting the reason(s) why your game at Field Mill was and the one at Meadow Lane wasn't. We have suffered similar changes in times and dates when our big brother are at home.

"Shit flows down stream"
Well there were probably about 100 seats spare as that's about what we didn't sell, but there certainly weren't plenty of empty seats for everyone to put their bags on like you're suggesting. The vast majority of the seats in the blocks we had were filled.

I'd love to hear what goes on in these SAG meetings because it seems like we're constantly being punished for things that happened a decade or so ago.
Don’t really get why we’re relevant here? Our games have never been moved because of Mansfield and vice versa, it’s a totally different set of safety groups etc making the decision. Not even as if there’d be people coming to Nottingham on the way with it being Boxing Day and no trains.
Same police force isn't it? The general consensus is that one of the two matches was going to be moved.
 

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For what it’s worth too Son of Cod the Mansfield police guy who is usually responsive with fans decided to ignore my question of why it’s been made 12.30am. Says a lot.

Watch it be like Beirut on Boxing Day now :lol:
 

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Well there were probably about 100 seats spare as that's about what we didn't sell, but there certainly weren't plenty of empty seats for everyone to put their bags on like you're suggesting. The vast majority of the seats in the blocks we had were filled.

I'd love to hear what goes on in these SAG meetings because it seems like we're constantly being punished for things that happened a decade or so ago.

Same police force isn't it? The general consensus is that one of the two matches was going to be moved.

It’s one police force on paper, but not really the same people who would do both I don’t think. Not as if they could even now anyway, you probably wouldn’t even make kick off at ML from the end of a 12:30 at Field Mill. I’ve never known Notts and Mansfield being at home at the same time to ever have been taken into consideration for this kind of thing.

Obviously a joke making it an early kick-off either way, would just be surprised if the Notts game came into the thinking at all.
 

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Well there were probably about 100 seats spare as that's about what we didn't sell, but there certainly weren't plenty of empty seats for everyone to put their bags on like you're suggesting. The vast majority of the seats in the blocks we had were filled.


Oh after all the talk of a reduced allocation being given I thought Grimsby had sold out that game. My mistake.

Didn't actually need more than the amount given.
 

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I am fully aware of how they tarp off areas in the JS stand at Meadow Lane, and there were plenty of empty seats. Don't tell me every seat was occupied because it simply wasn't unless the toilets under the stand were full throughout the game.

I don't see your point as Meadow Lane won't be full against Doncaster Rovers, or even close to full capacity so that's a moot point. The 12,950 in attendance for the Grimsby game were all safe.

I believe the police and relevant authorities look back beyond just this current season when judging categories of football matches and the potential for trouble.

Some clubs have a far worse reputation and rap sheet than others, as I'm sure you are aware.

You are clearly frustrated about the kick off time being moved around , understandably so. I was just suggesting the reason(s) why your game at Field Mill was and the one at Meadow Lane wasn't. We have suffered similar changes in times and dates when our big brother are at home.

"Shit flows down stream"
Why, won’t Notts fans turn up?
 

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Lots will, obviously, but there are a hell of a lot of home seats to fill. You could be right and it will be our 3rd home gate of the season of over 16,000.

Different times, different times :bg:

It's a hot topic on here, I wonder how big Donny's allocation will be for that fixture.
 

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Lots will, obviously, but there are a hell of a lot of home seats to fill. You could be right and it will be our 3rd home gate of the season of over 16,000.

Different times, different times :bg:

It's a hot topic on here, I wonder how big Donny's allocation will be for that fixture.
It will be the closest away fixture we will have had this season so I don’t expect tickets to make general sale if it’s low.
 

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No game at our level should be unilaterally moved to an earlier kick off when you see the likes of Man U/Liverpool and Arsenal/Spurs kicking off at 4pm for the benefit of tv. If the coppers can’t cope with 8,000 Mansfield/Grimsby fans, as scummy as they both are, then that’s the fault of the coppers. I’d love to know what resistance the clubs put up to these ridiculous ko times.

I’d say we‘ll get around 13-14k for Donny on Boxing Day, presumably they’ll bring 1500-2000. I see Forest have got an early game at Newcastle, maybe even a few more then.
 

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Oh after all the talk of a reduced allocation being given I thought Grimsby had sold out that game. My mistake.

Didn't actually need more than the amount given.
That would be a superb argument if all the talk of Notts reducing our allocation was about the match earlier this year in August and not the playoffs in 2022.
 

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Been covered already mate but nope this is the most they've allocated since Chesterfield got the same in 21/22. Stand isn't fit for purpose for 4000 apparently. They only gave us 2000 for the playoffs. Be a bit embarrassing if we don't sell out tbh after the way we've carried on about allocations there.

So the above quote by yourself in early August was referencing the Notts Vs Grimsby game just a few days later?
 

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So the above quote by yourself in early August was referencing the Notts Vs Grimsby game just a few days later?
I was referring to the wider "we" as in The Fishy, Twitter, the Grimsby pods, etc. I figured you were talking specifically about this forum/the other forum just now. But I've just remembered you took a hiatus during your National League stint so perhaps I assumed incorrectly.
 

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Nice diversion and of course you were, god bless the wider "we" :ohy:

So your quote wasn't about the playoff game it was about the game this season in Nottingham. Thought so.

Like I said I wrongly thought the (reduced) allocation given by Notts for that stand was SOLD OUT#hottopic

Either way it was a fantastic away following, safe for everyone in attendance.
 
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Nice diversion and of course you were, god bless the wider "we" :ohy:

So your quote wasn't about the playoff game it was about the game this season in Nottingham. Thought so.

Like I said I wrongly thought the (reduced) allocation given by Notts for that stand was SOLD OUT#hottopic

Either way it was a fantastic away following, safe for everyone in attendance.
I don't really know what your point is as nobody on here was whinging about a reduced allocation in August? When you reduced the allocation for the playoffs in 2022 though we had a fairly justifiable meltdown on the other forum as it was a bit of a shitbag tactic. Blew up in your faces in the end though so karma and all that.
 

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No game at our level should be unilaterally moved to an earlier kick off when you see the likes of Man U/Liverpool and Arsenal/Spurs kicking off at 4pm for the benefit of tv. If the coppers can’t cope with 8,000 Mansfield/Grimsby fans, as scummy as they both are, then that’s the fault of the coppers. I’d love to know what resistance the clubs put up to these ridiculous ko times.

I’d say we‘ll get around 13-14k for Donny on Boxing Day, presumably they’ll bring 1500-2000. I see Forest have got an early game at Newcastle, maybe even a few more then.
If we're still high up the table I think we may sell out, depending on Doncaster selling their allocation. They'll definitely get 2,200 same as Bradford and I don't see why they wouldn't be given the Stags size allocation of 3400?

Having been in the Sirrel stand when it's had a full 5,500 in I really don't see what the fuss is over the concourses. As long as stewards are on the exit gates and they can be opened at a moments notice in case of a highly unlikely fire I would have no problem being in that stand. It's got way more space than the back of Crewe's stand a couple of weeks ago where the whole stand is compressed into half the length out the back and that was safe enough too.
 

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I don't really know what your point is as nobody on here was whinging about a reduced allocation in August? When you reduced the allocation for the playoffs in 2022 though we had a fairly justifiable meltdown on the other forum as it was a bit of a shitbag tactic. Blew up in your faces in the end though so karma and all that.

Yes that's the perfect example of karma, nailed it. Made us have to wait one more (fantasticly wonderful) season and a trip to Wembley for a dramatic playoff win and promotion on penalities. Shucks!

Not surprised it hear there was a meltdown about away allocations standard.

As Jacob stated earlier I would also be surprised if the Notts game came into their thinking at all. Just sounded like some standard moaning and whining with Notts being needlessly brought into it.
 

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All ‘what is the capacity of Meadow Lane?’ fans will be delighted to know our new CEO covered it in the fans’ forum tonight. It’s currently about 18,000 but it tends to change a bit every season due to changes within the SAG and regulations, this is the highest it’s been for a number of years. Almost all of the ‘missing’ capacity is in the away end due to the concourse, we’re scoping out how feasible it is to change the design or build some facilities outside to solve the problem (presumably in the corner that’s kind of open near the Family Stand).

Less interesting than Williams’ passionate one-man monologue on the value of short corners.
 

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Nice to hear the capacity is surprisingly on the increase along with the booming crowds. For years and years both were on the decline until the Danish Duo arrived and decided to play Football Manager on the shores.

No matter how good and passionate the monologue was the chance of a certain section of the fanbase accepting our persistence with short corner is nil.
 

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18000? So our game wasn’t a sell out afterall then

Lost a load because of the TV cameras and I’m guessing there’s extra segregation and front rows cordoned against you lot. Think the 18,000 is the highest it could be, but it’s basically game by game.
 

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But I've just remembered you took a hiatus during your National League stint so perhaps I assumed incorrectly.
Whoa there SOC a bit harsh that, remember he has a life away from here and for those 5 years when he stopped posting he was obviously doing something really really important in his life, and then in a bizarre twist of fate all this really really important stuff he was doing happened to finish the day after Notts play off final which was a stroke of luck for him.
Although I have it on good authority that had Notts lost that game then all this really really important stuff he was doing would’ve carried on for at least another year.
Apparently.
 

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