League 2 relegation thread 14/15

[hellogregory]

*cough*

WH stag is talking about the sides fighting for that second relegation spot. We're already certs for that bottom spot.

 

[Pablosammy]

WH stag is talking about the sides fighting for that second relegation spot. We're already certs for that bottom spot.

Carlisle and Tranmere... Hartlepool's determined rescue team.

 

[shoddycollins]

WH stag is talking about the sides fighting for that second relegation spot. We're already certs for that bottom spot.

Clearly he isn't, he says 'Hartlepool and...'

 

[shoddycollins]

Carlisle and Tranmere... Hartlepool's determined rescue team.

I wonder if we've ever had two of the relegated teams in a division be teams who've only just been relegated into that division. I look forward to our relegation scrap next year in the Conference.

 

[AdamStag]

I wonder if we've ever had two of the relegated teams in a division be teams who've only just been relegated into that division. I look forward to our relegation scrap next year in the Conference.

Don't do a Stockport

Or a Darlington, or hereford, or a chester or Halifax (before they reformed as came back up)

 

[hellogregory]

Clearly he isn't, he says 'Hartlepool and...'

Typo

 

[hellogregory]

When our relegation is confirmed, I truly believe that someone will attempt to assassinate our owners.

They have killed the club, people will be out of control with their emotions and want revenge.

 

[BelizeHatter]

Hello Boys?!?!?!?! ..... ;-p ......feels like it though

 

[shoddycollins]

Hello Boys?!?!?!?! ..... ;-p ......feels like it though

In the politest possible way, and with all due respect.

Fuck off

 

[WH_Stag]

I think Carlisle will stay up.

 

[AdamStag]

Just saw dagenhams goals on sky, bloody hell. After lasts weekends goal against us they've clear got the thing for good goals

 

[hellogregory]

I think Carlisle will stay up.

 

[1884 Belmont]

Just saw dagenhams goals on sky, bloody hell. After lasts weekends goal against us they've clear got the thing for good goals

Their 1st and 2nd and our 1st goals were amazing. Their 3rd and our 2nd were good hits but both avoidable. Anyway, don't suppose we'll be seeing goals like that in the Conference next year.

 

[hellogregory]

I feel that although tranmere are on a bad run, they do have that capability of putting a little 5 or 6 game run together. They put an unbeaten run together at the start of the year and I think they'll put another together soon to claw their way out of it.

Where as Carlisle United aren't capable of that, we don't have the quality or backbone to do it. We have never put a run together this season, a positive result has always been followed up by a defeat or 2.
What is really concerning is now we're at the business end of the season, the defeats are becoming even more frequent. 5 defeats out of our last 6 games.

This is why I'm absolutely certain we'll be relegated and actually think there's a chance we'll end up finishing bottom.

 

[StagsForLife]

Carlisle and Hartlepool to go down

 

[hellogregory]

Carlisle and Hartlepool to go down

That would seem the most likely.

What an atmosphere it's going to be at Brunton Park on the final day of the season. A joint conference send off party.

 

[1884 Belmont]

That would seem the most likely.

What an atmosphere it's going to be at Brunton Park on the final day of the season. A joint conference send off party.

Carlisle and Hartlepool to go down

We are currently in the relegation zone and have lost 4 in a row and 5 of 6. If you seriously think you (Carlisle) are worse than us (despite the fact you beat us at our place not too long back) then you must be dire. The defending we are producing at the minute would struggle to beat the drop in the Conference, never mind L2.

Look at our fixtures, our form and our League position. We're gonners.

 

[BelizeHatter]

In the politest possible way, and with all due respect.

Fuck off

Fair point. Well put.

 

[AdamStag]

Lord almighty, I thought Mansfield fans were negative in their approach but carlisle fans seem as if they are on the verge of a mass suicide.

We lost 2-3 at home to exeter a month ago, fans were up in arms and fans were thought we were on our way down.

Unless Carlisle fans think they are exempt from the havoc that comes with a relegation battle then Id be surprised.

Have some fucking faith and stop feeling sorry for yourself, as every other side down here will do what they can do screw you over

 

[Leewilson]

To be fair, I could make a case for Carlisle, Cheltenham or Tranmere to go down so I don't blame their fans one bit. The two that end up staying up won't exactly be massively wrong as I don't see any of them 3 hitting great form any time soon. Cheltenham may possibly squeeze out of it as they appear to have a slightly renewed figure and have added some fresh faces. Tranmere and Carlisle appear to be as bad as each other. Going to come down to guts rather than ability. I think I'd rather have a Micky Adams Tranmere than a Keith Curle Carlisle mind you. Oh and I suppose York are in it but I see them just grinding out enough points to survive.

As I said a month ago, Hartlepool are dead. They aren't catching two teams.

 

[cufc17]

As AdamStag says, the Carlisle fans on here are ridiculously pessimistic.
We're going to go on a storming 8 match winning streak and reach the dizzy heights of 13th place, with Charlie Wyke reaching double figures for the season. Just believe.

 

[shoddycollins]

Lord almighty, I thought Mansfield fans were negative in their approach but carlisle fans seem as if they are on the verge of a mass suicide.

We lost 2-3 at home to exeter a month ago, fans were up in arms and fans were thought we were on our way down.

Unless Carlisle fans think they are exempt from the havoc that comes with a relegation battle then Id be surprised.

Have some fucking faith and stop feeling sorry for yourself, as every other side down here will do what they can do screw you over

It's been an ongoing decline for a while though, your words echo those from RavenBish (Notts County) when we were moaning about impending relegation from L1 last season, and saying how we would struggle in L2, but watching your team gradually get worse and worse over a few seasons leaves you struggling to believe how a new season could possibly go better than the previous one, each time we think, this is the bottom, we can't possibly get worse that this, our club amazes us by managing to find a way of being worse, and you wonder where the bottom really is. As ridiculous as it may seem to be talking about possible relegation battles next season in the conference, many thought we were being ridiculously pessimistic to be talking about a possible relegation battle in L2 this season. We've ceased to be amazed by it all, it's just expected now.

To be fair I don't think we're the worst for it, I think we share that crown with the Tranmere fans who seem every bit as depressed and fatalistic as we do, and they've sufferd a similar decline. I'm sure the Portsmouth fans know how it feels, at least they seem to have found their rock bottom. I just fear that ours lies below this division and possibly the one below that.

 

[cufc17]

As ridiculous as it may seem to be talking about possible relegation battles next season in the conference, many thought we were being ridiculously pessimistic to be talking about a possible relegation battle in L2 this season.

Yeah, I had us down to win the league. Obviously a bit too optimistic, but I honestly didn't think we'd be in this position. The team looked strong on paper, and not many would've thought Dempsey, Rigg, Potts etc would be our key players.

 

[Boz]

I think perhaps where Tranmere and Carlisle differ is that Rovers fans have tantalising glimpses of the future if we stay up and it's looking fairly positive given what the Pallioi have done already since taking over. However their plans don't include conference football and there have already been significant funds directed towards the playing side, probably more than budgeted for. If we go down and they don't stay, the future is incredibly bleak. It doesn't seem that Carlisle's short-term position is as hopeful if they stay up.

However, Mark and Nicola have got a big decision to make now, stick with Micky Adams or go with someone else. Adams did a decent job when he arrived, making us harder to beat and grinding out results. Since the transfer window, things have gone down hill, the players he's brought in with the exception of Taylor and Rory Donnelly have been poor and there have been a string of short-term loans, leading to instability as the side is chopped and changed each week. Some players; Dugdale, Power, Jennings get picked every week despite being either poor or totally out of form. The majority have real doubts that MA can keep us up, so while getting rid of two managers in a season isn't good, it may be that our joint-chairs have to bite the bullet and act.

 

[shoddycollins]

I think perhaps where Tranmere and Carlisle differ is that Rovers fans have tantalising glimpses of the future if we stay up and it's looking fairly positive given what the Pallioi have done already since taking over.

We've had a few of those too, in December one of our creditors wrote off £1.1m of debt, we've had a new investor open up talks with the board to buy the club and one of our key assets has signed a new contract, at one point it gave us reason to be very optimistic. However talks are dragging on, certain board members as well as the trust are quibbling over how shares should be assigned, I think Nixon is worried about his legacy and being stubborn over certain things (I get the impression he would rather the club went down but built a shiny new stadium he could take credit for, but I also think there might be a bit of a clash of personalities between Nixon and the new investor Lapping, Nixon does things at a glacial pace and prefers to keep things within the old-boy's club, and probably views Lapping as a pushy little upstart), results on the pitch are becoming increasingly dire and like yourselves, we're wondering what happens to it all if the talks haven't concluded and we get relegated.

 

[AdamStag]

Form last 6 games
11 Mansfield
10 Dagenham
8 Oxford, York
6 Hartlepool
5 Cambridge, Cheltenham
3 Tranmere, Carlisle

 

[HertsCobbler]

We can play a massive part in this battle as we play next both at Stadio Sixfields - Tranmere and then Carlisle.

It is clear that Carlisle's downfall is they seem to win or lose! They have won as many games as Pompey (11), but have lost (21) which is worse to only Hartlepool. The next highest number of defeats is 17.

Carlisle with 3 draws is then followed by us and Accy on 5.

 

[shoddycollins]

We can play a massive part in this battle as we play next both at Stadio Sixfields - Tranmere and then Carlisle.

It is clear that Carlisle's downfall is they seem to win or lose! They have won as many games as Pompey (11), but have lost (21) which is worse to only Hartlepool. The next highest number of defeats is 17.

Carlisle with 3 draws is then followed by us and Accy on 5.

Yeah we haven't drawn a game now since September, 27 games ago and before Curle took over. There have been a number of games we lost narrowly where with just a bit more backbone we could have maybe ground out a draw.

 

[daviejones]

If we're level with Tranmere in the form table for the last 6 games then I guess that puts us in a slightly better position than them seeing as we played Southend, Luton, Wycombe, Shrewsbury, Cheltenham and Exeter (2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 13th and 22nd place teams) whereas Tranmere played York, Shrewsbury, Cheltenham, Wycombe, Dagenham and Portsmouth (16th, 3rd, 22nd, 14th, 2nd, 20th). When you add up the positions of the teams we've played ours is 49 and Tranmere's is 77, so we've clearly had a much tougher run and Tranmere got quite a few winnable games out of the way and won none of them, and then went and beat Shrewsbury. We only played one 'must-win' game and won it, however lost all of the others against better teams.

 

[Boz]

Tranmere's record against sides in the bottom third is dire, don't think we've beaten any. Should be grateful that Mansfield A and Oxford H are the only two opponents of that ilk still to play.