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He’s a one club man. Done nothing at any other club. Would have thought in the time he’s been around someone a bit higher up the food chain would have taken a punt. Something has put off other clubs signing him - especially before last season when he had a good scoring return. Signing him after an injury prone, low scoring season is a risk if you are paying a decent fee plus wages.

So 18 in 42 for Alfreton before he signed for Barnet doesn't count then?
 

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He’s a one club man. Done nothing at any other club. Would have thought in the time he’s been around someone a bit higher up the food chain would have taken a punt. Something has put off other clubs signing him - especially before last season when he had a good scoring return. Signing him after an injury prone, low scoring season is a risk if you are paying a decent fee plus wages.

Whereas Stockley, Doidge and Eisa have scored for fun at this level elsewhere.

We turned down bids three times the size we took this time. Chairman thought it was better to keep him, which with hindsight was the wrong call, but only with hindsight.

Trust me, Akinde at Alfreton, then first two years with us was almost unplayable. If he gets back to that he will get 20 plus goals. Yes he scores penalties, but he wins most of them. I hope he does well as he served us so well.
 

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It's laughable how all these fans of other clubs think they know enough about Akinde to make judgements about him and other players (when even worse, those other players don't even play for their clubs!). The form he showed in the 16-17 season had him up there in the top 2/3 strikers that season, easily - and more than explained why us Barnet fans were valuing him as highly as 700/800k. Yes, it's only really at us where his talents shone through (Alfreton before us too tbh) but the fact that for 2 of the 3 seasons he was with us he was amongst the best players in the division is very telling.7

Last season was unusual, but his drop in form isn't too difficult to explain. He got injured, not a hugely major one but not minor either. We rushed him back too soon and played him before his body was ready and that aggravated the injury. Ever since then he's either lost a yard or two of pace or a shed load of confidence (or both) and he's not been the same. It's been very noticable - he changed his penalty technique with disastrous results, he started avoiding the penalty area and spreading out to the wings, and missed a few chances that he would definitely have tucked away a year beforehand.

I absolutely love the bloke but his time with us is up. If the fee I'm hearing we're getting for him is correct (it's not 400k (well potentially with add-ons) but certainly isn't around the lower boundaries mentioned on here either) then it's a fair deal allround.

Lincoln will have to really pay big wages for him though - he lives in South-East London/Kent, fairly newly married with a young and settled family. Convincing him to re-locate or commute/spend days away will cost a lot.

All the very best to him wherever he ends up. A club legend.
 
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No loan fee, Just contributing to his wages.

Loan fee and contribution to his wages is the same thing. The parent club still pay the full wages, collect the PAYE and NI. and pass that on to HMRC. The loan club pays a fee to the parent club. In this case that number is £200k that I have heard.
 

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Loan fee and contribution to his wages is the same thing. The parent club still pay the full wages, collect the PAYE and NI. and pass that on to HMRC. The loan club pays a fee to the parent club. In this case that number is £200k that I have heard.

Yeah but over negotiation they would have agreed to pay a certain percentage of his wages, when discussing terms wages and a ‘fee’ are two completely different matters.
 

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He’s like Ajose was for us. We thought he was a great goalscorer and disappointed he only went for £800,000. Yet at Bury, Posh and Charlton he did fuck all. Maybe the way Barnet played suited him.
 

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Yeah but over negotiation they would have agreed to pay a certain percentage of his wages, when discussing terms wages and a ‘fee’ are two completely different matters.

Look, the loanee club do not pay ‘wages’ and tax and NI to HMRC.
The loanee club just pay a fee to the parent club. I would imagine the parent club make it known what salary the player is on so the loanee club know what percentage of the wages they are paying, but in essence the loanee club in effect just pay a fee to the parent club.
 

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Seen on your board that you've put that the club only want to give 2 years and he wants 3. Don't understand that at all. If you are going to pay a decent fee for him, why would you want him in the last year of his contract next year? Unless you are offering 2 with an option of a third weighted in the clubs favour.
Think that's what we'll offer two with an option on a 3rd but agree he's going to be our record signing I'd give him a 3 year deal. Like you if he's moving up here he'll want the security of a 3 year deal.
Its so much upfront with add one I hear.
Think most teams and fans in this division would like him apart from our friend at Swindon...
 

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Okay, what about the 8 in 17 for Wycombe, does that count?

He’s like Ajose was for us. We thought he was a great goalscorer and disappointed he only went for £800,000. Yet at Bury, Posh and Charlton he did fuck all. Maybe the way Barnet played suited him.

So you aren't going to reply to that earlier comment about Akinde only being a one club man then, even though he had a decent ratio at Alfreton and Wycombe too?

My earlier comment about you talking shit stands.
 

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Just book him on an official tour of the Cathedral and there is no way he won’t move the family up to one of the fastest growing little cities in the country.

Just think, he could always go around one of those lovely roundabouts in Swindon with that beautiful concrete architecture everywhere!
 

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Just book him on an official tour of the Cathedral and there is no way he won’t move the family up to one of the fastest growing little cities in the country.
You'll laugh at this but apparently one of the reasons Bostwick joined us was we cooked his kids fav tea sausages beans n chips while they did his deal:bg:
 

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Look, the loanee club do not pay ‘wages’ and tax and NI to HMRC.
The loanee club just pay a fee to the parent club. I would imagine the parent club make it known what salary the player is on so the loanee club know what percentage of the wages they are paying, but in essence the loanee club in effect just pay a fee to the parent club.

When two clubs are negotiating to loan a player, paying a percentage of the wages and paying a ‘fee’ for the loan are two completely different discussions, yeah they will all be paid together etc (probably, not always) but it’s still two completely different negotiations.

Forest did not go to Mansfield and say we want £200k or vice versa, they would have agreed to pay a percentage of wages and a fee separately (not applicable in this case) to come up with the final sum to be paid.
 

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So you aren't going to reply to that earlier comment about Akinde only being a one club man then, even though he had a decent ratio at Alfreton and Wycombe too?

My earlier comment about you talking shit stands.
I’d rather look at the stat that says, apart from Barnet and non league clubs, he’s scored 11in 104.
 

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Yeah, but you took a punt. I doubt you paid big money plus big wages for him. All I’m saying is that for his age and fitness plus a whole host of clubs he failed at I wouldn’t want to invest that much in him.
 

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Obviously, but my point is that if he hits 20 and you don’t get promoted you’ve lost your money. It’s not the sort of thing clubs at our level can afford much of. I can understand clubs paying biggish wages but with a high fee as well it’s got to work out.

We are getting promoted mate don't worry yourself with it :2thumb:
 

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Yeah, but you took a punt. I doubt you paid big money plus big wages for him. All I’m saying is that for his age and fitness plus a whole host of clubs he failed at I wouldn’t want to invest that much in him.

See, you're making statements like 'I doubt you did this' and making generalised statements about the context of the time (eg. Alfreton were a much better club at the time than they are now). You don't actually know much more about Akinde or this situation at all - but yet you're adamant that your unbased opinion (because that's all this is - an opinion based on maybe seeing him play twice and some stats) is all that's needed.

He joined us on a free as he was only on a one year contract with Alfreton and his wages weren't small at the time - we very quickly improved his contract and he ended up as our highest earner. He's been injury free for the last 4/5 seasons apart from the last (so he's nowhere near a fitness risk as many other players lauded as great signings at this level are) and he's only 28 (29 in a week) so he's hardly an old donkey.

You don't actually know much about the situation you're trying so hard to debate about.
 

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You really don’t get it, do you. You paid nowt for him and, maybe, £1500 per week. Fair play, he worked out for you.

But, guessing, paying £200,00 for him and, again guessing, £4-5k per week wages, is a whole different ball game.

And the 11 in 104 is hardly a good return.

Lincoln could get the 1 in 2 Barnet striker or the 1 in 10 everyone else striker.
 
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We're apparently trying quite hard to get Billy Waters again
 

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Promoted in June, eh?
Yup pretty much. First season bedded back in. Cowleys a year wiser. High calibre of signings, new training ground, full stadium every week. Promotion beckons my friend.
 

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Started to think the Lincoln fans had calmed downs bit. Obviously not.
 

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