Managerial Merry-Go-Round 2020/21

[Luke Imp]

Cooper's a far better appointment than Barrow's previous attempts.

 

[Agombar stool]

We tended to play really well in the first half of games, and then he would have a tendency to drop deeper and sit on leads which often backfired. So very much a risk-averse manager, albeit some of the attacking stuff we would play when we were on it really was excellent and he always had us in and around the top seven. There is an argument that perhaps the squads we had during his tenure had the ability to push on a bit higher than that if they were a bit bolder, so it will be interesting to see if he is a little more adventurous with you.

Of the players that we have released, Tom Lapslie and Courtney Senior could be possible additions albeit they're complete stab in the darks. Lapslie was always a solid 7/10, a tenacious holding midfielder who might go unnoticed until he's not in the side. He missed much of last season with injury but it was a shame to see him go really and McGreal always seemed to like him. Courtney Senior has had a poor 12-18 months, but he was really excellent at times in recent years with the potential to play higher so he might be another that he would fancy giving another go to - skilful winger.

Cheers for the reply. Look forward to us announcing Lapslie and Senior soon!

 

[Monkey Tennis]

Really happy with the Cooper appointment - best of the managers available at this time. Absolutely hated playing FGR in the conference, but his style was effective.

And he's getting some of our more sensitive supporters pissing their pants, which is always funny.

 

[Indian Dan]

You’ll need a direct fansline to the Samaritans.

 

[BarraMatt]

You’ll need a direct fansline to the Samaritans.

We're Barrow, we've got them on redial.

 

[Boz]

Is Cooper to Barrow just speculation at this point? The website only mentions Rob Kelly going to another club.

 

[Monkey Tennis]

Is Cooper to Barrow just speculation at this point? The website only mentions Rob Kelly going to another club.

All the FGR journos have published the story, all club 'ITKers' know it, betting suspended - will be announced in the morning, no doubt.

 

[jacobncfc]

You’d have been better off with Ardley than Cooper.

 

[Essex2Wessex]

I'm sure Cooper will be good for Barrow, at least for a time, and maybe them for him too. (Entertaining to read some of the Barrow forum comments about him, though).

 

[T.A]

Keith Curle has been made "permanent" head coach

If he lasts past Christmas ill be surprised.

 

[GTFCfish]

I would imagine near enough. $alford will of course have more, aside from that I can't think of any obvious 'big' budget teams, maybe Bradford, Mansfield, possibly Vale or FGR? Not really sure but we'll certainly spend a little over summer.
Our owners aren't ludicrously wealthy but we're well run and stable.

Weren’t you paying Dossena silly money a few years back with one of the top budgets in League 1 and still get relegated?

 

[E10rifle]

Weren’t you paying Dossena silly money a few years back with one of the top budgets in League 1 and still get relegated?

That was our previous owner. Made Fenty look like Jack Walker.

 

[denzel ecfc]

Cooper is everything that's wrong with football these days. Producing horrible cheating sides more intent on winding up the opposition, time wasting and players feigning injuries amongst the antics.

He obviously inherited the tactics from his dad who was part of Revie's dirty Leeds team.

So no thanks mate.

Out of curiosity why did FGR sack him?

That's bang out of order. Terry Cooper was one of our best managers ever, producing our only championship winning side, playing great attacking football and getting the best out of players. He is a legend.

 

[denzel ecfc]

Alright manager to be fair.

They might even have been playing on Monday with him

 

[BarraMatt]

I'm sure Cooper will be good for Barrow, at least for a time, and maybe them for him too. (Entertaining to read some of the Barrow forum comments about him, though).

I mentioned a story about him having a ding dong with our manager Dave Bayliss who is a hothead himself. He swore at some of our fans once too and resultantly we should avoid at all costs according to some. I agree with Monkey, we need a manager who knows how to consolidate for a few seasons, so I'd be happy with it.

 

[Marked Ox]

If he lasts past Christmas ill be surprised.

L2 is his Division isn't it? Found wanting in L1 but his style does an alright job in L2 or have I got the 2nd part wrong?

 

[The Jovial Forester]

I think Barrow have done well there, and in my view Cooper is only getting better at what he's good at and doing less and less of the twattish stuff as he matures/ages.

 

[BarraMatt]

Rob Edwards confirmed at FGR.

 

[The Jovial Forester]

Now we just need to sign a load of teenagers over the summer.

 

[FGR Stroud]

All the FGR journos have published the story, all club 'ITKers' know it, betting suspended - will be announced in the morning, no doubt.

Cooper is undoubtedly a very good football manager but does have a personality problem. He does not suffer fools easily and can easily fall out with those who come up against him.
His last job at FGR was the longest he had remained at one club for such a long period of time. During that time fans had seen some changes in his managerial style.

[#] For many years MC would name and shame players who had been having a bad game. That used to drive the fans mad, who then said it was him who selected the guy to play!!
But for the past year or so he stopped doing that

[#] Expect some of your more experienced and favourite players to be immediately dumped. Within months the team will be different from one that just finished season.
Cooper likes to sign younger players who he can mould to his playing style rather than trying to convince experience players of his thinking.

[#] FGR fans never took MC to their heart and it seems it was mutual. During the promotion year Cooper always selected his son Charlie at the expense of ‘better’ players. Charlie came in for considerable flak which perhaps distanced his father from the FGR fans.
Perhaps with a new beginning and no Charlie, MC could develop a better relationship with Barrow supporters, although don’t expect a Danny Cowley style gee up at any game. MC is very reserved in that respect.

[#] Despite what has been written by others on this forum, MC likes his team to play clean. Annually FGR received less disciplinary cards than most other clubs.
It is a fallacy to say MC instructs his players to use unauthorized tactics to gain an advantage. Opponents regularly said Ebou Adams fell over too easily but stats showed he was the most fouled player in EFL2.

[#] Cooper’s playing style is to retain possession of ball so that opponents run out of steam trying to regain possession, at which time his team will pounce.
Expect same at Barrow, so learn to be patient while your players ‘fanny about’ passing between each other.

I expect Barrow to do well next season and finish in top half of table, perhaps even snatching a place in play-offs.

Good luck.

 

[The Jovial Forester]

Just read the official site, I think we will be in with a shout for sexiest manager at last even if the football isn't up to much. Great hair, Rob. Also him being a former defender is a good thing given our frequent lapses.

 

[Chris FGR]

Edwards confirmed with Richie Kyle as assistant. Two coaches that have both worked a lot with youngsters and worked as 'possession coaches' within the FA apparently so expect us to be a young side which plays pretty football. Lets hope it's also effective football.

 

[T.A]

L2 is his Division isn't it? Found wanting in L1 but his style does an alright job in L2 or have I got the 2nd part wrong?

Any other club other than maybe Salford yeah. Oldham are a shitshow behind the scenes though.

 

[FGR Stroud]

Just read the official site, I think we will be in with a shout for sexiest manager at last even if the football isn't up to much. Great hair, Rob. Also him being a former defender is a good thing given our frequent lapses.

Only time will tell.
Both Rob and his assistant Ritchie Kyle have good CVs but it will be 1st time they 'manage' a 1st team.
No mention this time of length of contract.
The five years that Cooper secured was both good and bad.
It allowed him to develop FGRs style of play, that seemingly Dale Vince wants to continue, but too expensive to get rid of him when results were less than good.

 

[Monkey Tennis]

I mentioned a story about him having a ding dong with our manager Dave Bayliss who is a hothead himself. He swore at some of our fans once too and resultantly we should avoid at all costs according to some. I agree with Monkey, we need a manager who knows how to consolidate for a few seasons, so I'd be happy with it.

I don't know so much about consolidation - a top 10/11 budget last season suggests that's the aim this year, and probably play-offs the following year.

 

[Monkey Tennis]

Cooper is undoubtedly a very good football manager but does have a personality problem. He does not suffer fools easily and can easily fall out with those who come up against him.
His last job at FGR was the longest he had remained at one club for such a long period of time. During that time fans had seen some changes in his managerial style.

[#] For many years MC would name and shame players who had been having a bad game. That used to drive the fans mad, who then said it was him who selected the guy to play!!
But for the past year or so he stopped doing that

[#] Expect some of your more experienced and favourite players to be immediately dumped. Within months the team will be different from one that just finished season.
Cooper likes to sign younger players who he can mould to his playing style rather than trying to convince experience players of his thinking.

[#] FGR fans never took MC to their heart and it seems it was mutual. During the promotion year Cooper always selected his son Charlie at the expense of ‘better’ players. Charlie came in for considerable flak which perhaps distanced his father from the FGR fans.
Perhaps with a new beginning and no Charlie, MC could develop a better relationship with Barrow supporters, although don’t expect a Danny Cowley style gee up at any game. MC is very reserved in that respect.

[#] Despite what has been written by others on this forum, MC likes his team to play clean. Annually FGR received less disciplinary cards than most other clubs.
It is a fallacy to say MC instructs his players to use unauthorized tactics to gain an advantage. Opponents regularly said Ebou Adams fell over too easily but stats showed he was the most fouled player in EFL2.

[#] Cooper’s playing style is to retain possession of ball so that opponents run out of steam trying to regain possession, at which time his team will pounce.
Expect same at Barrow, so learn to be patient while your players ‘fanny about’ passing between each other.

I expect Barrow to do well next season and finish in top half of table, perhaps even snatching a place in play-offs.

Good luck.

I fully expect Jason Taylor to be gone by Christmas, despite just being offered a new contract. Very good at what he does, tackling all over the pitch, but I always think of when you had Noble in that central midfield role playing more like a playmaker.

Some of the most boring matches I can remember were against FGR, where nothing would happen and we'd somehow lose by the odd goal. There always seemed a lot of play acting going on, which wound up our fans (and probably why most fans dislike him), not sure about being a dirty side though.

I'm not expecting excitement, but I think we've been trying to play the short passing game for a few seasons now (with the exception of the last few months) so we're probably set up nicely for him to take over.

 

[SVH]

FGR going down the route we took 12 months ago. Young, hungry managers that have worked their way through the ranks but inexperienced.

If they build a good team around them in terms of coaches, analysts, recruitment team and they get it right then anything can happen. Too many team keep employing the same old cloggers going round and round in circles.

 

[shoddycollins]

FGR going down the route we took 12 months ago. Young, hungry managers that have worked their way through the ranks but inexperienced.

If they build a good team around them in terms of coaches, analysts, recruitment team and they get it right then anything can happen. Too many team keep employing the same old cloggers going round and round in circles.

Vince Dale already shouting from the rooftops that FGR are going a different way to everyone else, by making the sort of appointment that around 50% of managerial appointments at this level are.

 

[FGR Stroud]

Vince Dale already shouting from the rooftops that FGR are going a different way to everyone else, by making the sort of appointment that around 50% of managerial appointments at this level are.

That same thought went through my mind.

 

[Greenacres]

Vince Dale already shouting from the rooftops that FGR are going a different way to everyone else, by making the sort of appointment that around 50% of managerial appointments at this level are.

Yeah but probably fair to cut the bloke a bit of slack, he has only been involved in football for around a decade and didn't seem to have any involvement whatsoever before that, either as a fan or player...he is still learning!