Punk Rock

[Vanni]

 

[Vanni]

So I was rummaging through my punk singles and found this little, erm,gem. It is a split 45 with Dragons on one side covering the Pistols, and some Polish band called Deadlock & Krysys on the other. The interesting thing about this record is that Dragons were supposedly a Chinese band, and as this was issued in 1982, people assumed they were the first Chinese punk band to release a record. Turns out they weren't Chinese but some French guys pretending to be, as can be evidenced by the 'vocal' delivery.

However, this fact doesn't stop collectors from paying big money for it, 100 quid upwards. Pity mine is only in a Good/Very Good condition and can only get something like 25/35 quid for it, in which case I'd rather keep it.

Try to keep a straight face when listening to this guys

This is Deadlock's effort, which I suppose is slightly better.

 

[D B Disco]

I never thought I would hear a worse version of Anarchy in the UK than Motley Crue's.........................I have now!!

It's worth how much?

 

[Vanni]

 

[Aber gas]

My band supported this band ! They are terrible but I love em anyway.

 

[Aber gas]

 

[D B Disco]

A New Zealand band that have been around for a while, well worth listening to if you haven't come across them before.........

 

[Aber gas]

 

[PaulHaddock]

Whilst seeing Slaves in Leeds t'other week, we got introduced to WONK Unit. Strange bunch.

 

[Vanni]

Fuck yeah

 

[Vanni]

 

[D B Disco]

Fuck yeah

 

[D B Disco]

An "OK" band from the early to mid 80's.

Worth listening to the intro and the first track here, as for me the contrast between classical and punk is one of the best moments on a punk album ever. Gives me goose bumps every time I play it!

 

[Vanni]

Ah Bristol, bless.

 

[Vanni]

Was rummaging through my old tapes and found this. Probably bought it at a car boot sale but don't know anything at all about this band. What I found interesting was that it was released on Pye Records. Problem is the tape is damaged so I can't play it.

 

[Aber gas]

 

[Whitechapel]

One of my favourite hardcore albums, and this song always gets me pumped...

 

[Vanni]

Another one of those bands that people like to label. They're hardcore punk. No they're not, this is anarcho. You're both wrong, they are a crust band. And so on ad infinitum Good US band, sadly now defunct though members went on to form other bands.

 

[Stevencc]

 

[D B Disco]

 

[Tilbury]

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/mar/16/malcolm-mclaren-son-joe-corre-burn-punk-memorabilia-punk-london-queen
Malcolm McLaren's son to burn £5m of punk memorabilia in protest against Punk London. http://punk.london/diy/
http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...don-spirit-joe-corre-burn-clothes-sex-pistols
This is a good read too.

 

[D B Disco]

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/mar/16/malcolm-mclaren-son-joe-corre-burn-punk-memorabilia-punk-london-queen
Malcolm McLaren's son to burn £5m of punk memorabilia in protest against Punk London. http://punk.london/diy/
http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...don-spirit-joe-corre-burn-clothes-sex-pistols
This is a good read too.

Thanks for posting that, a good read as you say.

Mixed feelings about this really, on the one hand I find it laughable that a movement that was so "anti establishment" is now revered by that self same establishment, but on the other hand I think it's good that Punk is rightly being recognised as something that had a massive and ongoing influence on a generation, and on the generations to follow. But if you strip it to the bones, for me Punk was all about the music, which I still love, so if Punk music is being celebrated then I guess I'm for it.

 

[The Fack]

I salute that article. Punk to me is about individualism and going against the grain. Punk London patronises such ethics.

 

[Vanni]

Thanks for posting that, a good read as you say.

Mixed feelings about this really, on the one hand I find it laughable that a movement that was so "anti establishment" is now revered by that self same establishment, but on the other hand I think it's good that Punk is rightly being recognised as something that had a massive and ongoing influence on a generation, and on the generations to follow. But if you strip it to the bones, for me Punk was all about the music, which I still love, so if Punk music is being celebrated then I guess I'm for it.

Sorry but I find this comment a little strange coming from someone like you who very clearly knows his stuff and knows what's he 's talking about. Really? 90% of Punk bands don't know more than two chords and some can barely strap on a guitar let alone play one. Punk is/was, predominantly, all about getting the message across, a fact that a lot of bands put an emphasis on, with most going on record saying that getting the message across was more important than learning to properly play a musical instrument. Not that there aren't/weren't talented Punk bands around but they are a minority.

Not all of the punk bands had the same agenda and the message differed from one band to another, but anti-establishment was always top of he agenda. Therefore, even though the bands who are taking part in these events will undoubtedly raise their profile and most likely attract new fans, this whole thing is a farce. A well known Tory like Boris getting mixed up in all this makes it all the more laughable.

Unless your interpretation of Punk differs a lot from my interpretation??? Still, I respect your opinion just like I respect everyone elses.

 

[D B Disco]

Sorry but I find this comment a little strange coming from someone like you who very clearly knows his stuff and knows what's he 's talking about. Really? 90% of Punk bands don't know more than two chords and some can barely strap on a guitar let alone play one. Punk is/was, predominantly, all about getting the message across, a fact that a lot of bands put an emphasis on, with most going on record saying that getting the message across was more important than learning to properly play a musical instrument. Not that there aren't/weren't talented Punk bands around but they are a minority.

Not all of the punk bands had the same agenda and the message differed from one band to another, but anti-establishment was always top of he agenda. Therefore, even though the bands who are taking part in these events will undoubtedly raise their profile and most likely attract new fans, this whole thing is a farce. A well known Tory like Boris getting mixed up in all this makes it all the more laughable.

Unless your interpretation of Punk differs a lot from my interpretation??? Still, I respect your opinion just like I respect everyone elses.

Yeah I know, I had my doubts about what I was writing whilst I was writing it!

I think "Punk" is two different things really, firstly the movement itself and secondly the music. I was in my teens when Punk came about and I fully understand what the whole thing was about at that time, and I agree that largely the music was incidental. It was a very different time, coming off the back of strikes, 3 day weeks, youth unemployment and basically the Country beginning to fall on it's knees. It needed someone to stand up and say "we've had enough of this shit", and for my generation Punk did that.

But that time has gone, and that generation (including me!) is now a lot older, and dare I say "mellowed". Even Johnny Rotten has advertised butter and appeared on that Celebrity Jungle crap! So that leaves us now with the music. I can't be that rebel of my youth anymore (well maybe inside it's still there) so now it's all about the music that I loved then and still love today.

I know this Punk London thing goes against everything that Punk once stood for, and like I said earlier I find that laughable (and sad), but how can I not appreciate something that celebrates my youth?

Hope that makes a bit more sense?

But I will finish by saying to Boris Johnson, the Queen and any other patronising twat that pretends they think Punk was a great thing..................FUCK OFF!

 

[Aber gas]

 

[Aber gas]

 

[Habbinalan]

Yeah I know, I had my doubts about what I was writing whilst I was writing it!

I think "Punk" is two different things really, firstly the movement itself and secondly the music. I was in my teens when Punk came about and I fully understand what the whole thing was about at that time, and I agree that largely the music was incidental. It was a very different time, coming off the back of strikes, 3 day weeks, youth unemployment and basically the Country beginning to fall on it's knees. It needed someone to stand up and say "we've had enough of this shit", and for my generation Punk did that.

But that time has gone, and that generation (including me!) is now a lot older, and dare I say "mellowed". Even Johnny Rotten has advertised butter and appeared on that Celebrity Jungle crap! So that leaves us now with the music. I can't be that rebel of my youth anymore (well maybe inside it's still there) so now it's all about the music that I loved then and still love today.

I know this Punk London thing goes against everything that Punk once stood for, and like I said earlier I find that laughable (and sad), but how can I not appreciate something that celebrates my youth?

Hope that makes a bit more sense?

But I will finish by saying to Boris Johnson, the Queen and any other patronising twat that pretends they think Punk was a great thing..................FUCK OFF!

Punk was confusing..... and it was different for most of us depending where we lived and how old we were.

The music was the glue that got/gets us interacting.

My vivid memories were driving through the night from the deepest fens to see Dead Kennedys at West Runton Pavillion, being deafened by The Ruts and The Ramones at Cambridge Corn Exchange and, mainly, John Peel steering us through from the hippy days to reggae, punk and the rest on the old steam radio.

The indulgent politics didn't really impact or strike a chord in Welney, Wisbech and Ely but the music did.

Sod the politics. Kill the Poor.

 

[Vanni]

 

[D B Disco]

New Anti Nowhere League album coming out next month....pre-ordered mine!

Yes they went a bit "metal" at one point, but if their last 2 albums ( "Kings and Queens" and "Road to Rampton") are anything to go by I'm looking forward to this!

They have also re-recorded their first album "We are the League" with original lyrics, not the watered down version that they were forced to release following the original being seized and banned. I believe this comes out in June.