Raheem Sterling

[Pagnell]

Surely his contract doesn't run out in jan 2017. When has anyone's contract run out in Jan unless they in lower leagues on short term deals?

Correct, I was actually wrong with that it would appear. I read the report of him signing his last contract in January 2012, and it stated it was 5 years, hence why I assumed it expired in the January of 2017. However, I have since read it actually expires in the June of 2017.

This is even better for Liverpool as it means a further two full seasons after this summer. This means that, if he doesn't sign a new deal, he should be with us next season regardless and we will then sell at a decent price summer next year. I also imagine that if he wants to force a move, he will put in additional effort next season to put himself in the shop window, so to speak.

 

[Destruction]

Correct, I was actually wrong with that it would appear. I read the report of him signing his last contract in January 2012, and it stated it was 5 years, hence why I assumed it expired in the January of 2017. However, I have since read it actually expires in the June of 2017.

This is even better for Liverpool as it means a further two full seasons after this summer. This means that, if he doesn't sign a new deal, he should be with us next season regardless and we will then sell at a decent price summer next year. I also imagine that if he wants to force a move, he will put in additional effort next season to put himself in the shop window, so to speak.

Hmm...

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/151639-luis-suarez-signs-new-contract-at-lfc

Let's not pretend length of contract means anything, Sterling will decide when he's off, not Liverpool.

 

[Pagnell]

Hmm...

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/151639-luis-suarez-signs-new-contract-at-lfc

Let's not pretend length of contract means anything, Sterling will decide when he's off, not Liverpool.

Strange you use Suarez as an example given that what happened with him and Arsenal proves the opposite of what you claim.

Even if Sterling decides he wants out this summer, with 24 months remaining on his contract, unless we receive an offer which would be stupid to turn down, he'll be staying.

 

[mnb089mnb]

Young players really need to be careful who they let lead them. There's a young player at United called Andreas Pereira who has been offered a good contract at United and wants to stay for footballing reasons but has his father and represantatives in his ear wanting him to join PSG for nearly triple the wages but all the signing on fee etc. These people aren't interested in the players' development, simply "return on investment" which even sadly includes fathers and family.

Always amazes me that people know private details of discussions between agents and footballers.

 

[thespus]

Life is about "return on investment". Let's stop kidding ourselves that footballers should be any different because we're sentimental towards them.

 

[S2_Blade]

Sterling is good but still got plenty to improve before he is worth what he wants even though no footballer is worth what they are but that is a different discussion.

He is quick yes but often is wasteful with his crosses and shots plus wimps out of 50/50 challenges a lot.

Improve on that then he could become world class easily.

 

[Mr.Andrews]

if he joins a bigger and better club the liverpool fans will say coutinho is better and they are glad raheem has been sold. if he stays though he is better than ronaldo and messi combined.

 

[Nath]

Read he was offered £100k a week, if it's true then perhaps money isn't the motive afterall. Champions League football seems to be the main attraction. Which also would explain why he's holding out until the end of the season.

 

[Pagnell]

Read he was offered £100k a week, if it's true then perhaps money isn't the motive afterall.

He's reported to be asking for £150k a week, so turning down £100k a week doesn't indicate money isn't the primary motive. But as I pointed out, with 2 years remaining on his contract this summer, we don't need to sell as we'd still get a good price next summer so CL next season isn't the deciding factor.

It's all speculation anyway, no one knows for certain what he wants or what he's been offered. Fingers crossed a compromise can be reached, even if it's a short term extension.

 

[allouso]

Is it just me or is he thinking too highly of himself? Liverpool are about his level, i really don't see him starting for a CL team regularly.

Also, he looked shit in all our matches in the group stages, but that goes for everyone to be fair.

 

[merseyboyred]

He'd definitely regularly start for a CL team regularly as he has done already this season. He's 20 and it's easily arguable that he's our best player. He's recently been named the best U21 in Europe. He's entitled to think highly of himself, as he's really, really good.

 

[smat]

He'd definitely regularly start for a CL team regularly as he has done already this season. He's 20 and it's easily arguable that he's our best player. He's recently been named the best U21 in Europe. He's entitled to think highly of himself, as he's really, really good.

YES exactly. He's still got seven or eight years until he's at his peak, as well. FRIGHTENING. Liverpool really would be mugs to let him slip away, but there's plenty of time for him to sign a new deal. They'll have to show ambition this summer though (especially if they don't finish in the top four).

 

[G-Dragon]

Who here thinks Jordan Ibe will be as good as if not better than Sterling?

 

[Pagnell]

*doesn't raise hand*

 

[Whitechapel]

*Tumble weed*

 

[Stevencc]

No comment.

 

[allouso]

Who here thinks Jordan Ibe will be as good as if not better than Sterling?

They have similar characteristics, but too early to tell for Ibe. So far so good though.

Sterling has great qualities, but his decision making and poor end product are the reasons why i'm still unconvinced by him. I don't think a move now would be best for his career.

 

[Stevencc]

if he joins a bigger and better club the liverpool fans will say coutinho is better and they are glad raheem has been sold. if he stays though he is better than ronaldo and messi combined.

Close, they've chosen Ibe instead.

 

[thespus]

Sterling would start for most CL sides. I think City is his most likely destination if he leaves. I'd love him to compete with Oxlade-Chamberlain, Walcott, and Cazorla (if not playing CM) for a starting spot alongside Sanchez and Giroud.

 

[merseyboyred]

Sterling's strangely unloved by lots our fans all things considered. A large number were immediately saying Ibe was going to be better despite Ibe having only played a couple of games for us and still being very raw. He is a different character to the ones who are usually loved by us, as is Sturridge, but I think it's rather poor tbh.

YES exactly. He's still got seven or eight years until he's at his peak, as well. FRIGHTENING. Liverpool really would be mugs to let him slip away, but there's plenty of time for him to sign a new deal. They'll have to show ambition this summer though (especially if they don't finish in the top four).

I've no idea why so many would willingly let him go, would be stupid to not try our best to keep him here for as long as possible.

I think (hope) we will this summer, as really it's more first team ready players we need not particularly squad ones, and we don't need an overhaul. Spend on a forward & a midfielder or maybe a CB, then cheaper, at first backup option at GK, ST & then either a CM or CB (depending on which one we choose to spend on - but we may not even need a backup CB with Ilori coming back). Keeping the team together should be paramount, just need to add to it & it could be very good indeed.

They have similar characteristics, but too early to tell for Ibe. So far so good though.

Sterling has great qualities, but his decision making and poor end product are the reasons why i'm still unconvinced by him. I don't think a move now would be best for his career.

He's only 20. Not many (do any?) players have exceptional decision making and end product at that age. That he's this good already and has shown the level of game intelligence, consistent performance levels alongside versatility, willingness to learn and level of improvement that he has done already bodes really well for him.

I do think he's best served staying with us for a couple more years at least, but I don't think him going somewhere else would mean he won't reach the levels he could. He'd definitely start for every other team in this league bar Chelsea, and even then he'd rotate. There aren't many teams in Europe he wouldn't get in, at 20!

 

[Pagnell]

I don't think it's a case of willingly letting him go, more recognising it's never good for a club to be held over a barrel in regards to wages. You only need to look at Rooney's last two contracts to see where it can lead.

I certainly don't want to lose Sterling, but if the alternative is paying him stupid money, especially when Henry and co. are now so careful with wage expenditure, then selling shouldn't be ruled out as an option. Especially if a decent amount of money can be gotten.

 

[G.B]

Who here thinks Jordan Ibe will be as good as if not better than Sterling?

*raises hand....*

*...uses it to slap the taste outta yo mouth*

 

[merseyboyred]

I don't think it's a case of willingly letting him go, more recognising it's never good for a club to be held over a barrel in regards to wages. You only need to look at Rooney's last two contracts to see where it can lead.

I certainly don't want to lose Sterling, but if the alternative is paying him stupid money, especially when Henry and co. are now so careful with wage expenditure, then selling shouldn't be ruled out as an option. Especially if a decent amount of money can be gotten.

Which is fine, but a lot of it seems to be a case of 'well I wouldn't go above £100k and if he wouldn't settle for what I'd pay then tough'. How is it ever as cut & dried as that? And how do we know we aren't? There'll be spin & briefings from both camps.

To me, selling this summer should be the very last road we look at if nothing at all can be agreed, and we obviously should wring everything we could possibly get out of a sale. Even if it's a temporary agreement with a 'gentleman's agreement' that he can go the following summer/2017 at a huge push if we get a release fee (which I think right now it'll likely end up being), letting Sterling go this summer should only be the case if there's no other option.

Thing is, lots are also making assumptions about what's wanted etc. without being in full possession of the facts. The arbitrary valuations a lot of fans put on things as well does get on my wick, but that's as much a general point as this case.

 

[Pagnell]

It's not cut and dry. Like I said in a previous post, it's all speculation at the moment.

I think what will end up happening is an extension rather than a new long term deal. Stick another two years on for considerably more wage, and in 2017 when he has another 2 years on his contract to go, the club looks at how he's developed to that point and offer him serious money and a long term deal should it be justified and he wishes to stay.

And I don't think he'll be going this summer regardless, even if he refuses to sign a new deal and makes it clear he wants to leave.

 

[thespus]

And I don't think he'll be going this summer regardless, even if he refuses to sign a new deal and makes it clear he wants to leave.

You don't think the club will get max value for their asset after missing out on (substantially increased this year) CL revenue? Selling him the with a year left on his contract will net you half of what he'd get this summer - maybe £15-20m With FFP and Liverpool's need to spend to get back into the CL, I would think selling an unhappy player for £30m would be the best choice.

I still think he will sign an extension and then be sold the following summer.

 

[Pagnell]

You don't think the club will get max value for their asset after missing out on (substantially increased this year) CL revenue? Selling him the with a year left on his contract will net you half of what he'd get this summer - maybe £15-20m With FFP and Liverpool's need to spend to get back into the CL, I would think selling an unhappy player for £30m would be the best choice

I believe if we don't get back into the CL this season (which is looking increasingly likely), and assuming Sterling then refuses to sign a new deal and indicate he wants to leave, then the club will take the view that a player like Sterling, who is already one of our best players and who is improving all the time, will help Liverpool fight for the CL spots next season. I can't see them selling a player of Sterling's quality two years before his contract expires, it's more likely to happen next summer instead, even if it means missing out on additional money. I wouldn't rule it out completely, I just think it's less likely. It also gives them a further chance to entice him to sign a new deal, especially if the attempt to get back into the top 4 is successful.

And it's not in Sterling's interest if we don't sell to sulk and not put the effort in next season. He'll want the best move possible for the most money possible. He won't get that if he doesn't give it his best.

 

[ArmchairDiehard]

How much would you Liverpool fans accept for him in the Summer? £40m?

He's still only twenty so I see no reason for him to move abroad at this stage of his career, and could City or Chelsea afford him given the FFP restrictions?

 

[SC49]

Did Sterling say he was flattered with reports linking him with Arsenal?

 

[Stevencc]

Raheem Sterling has told BBC Sport he is not a "money-grabbing 20-year-old" after confirming he has turned down a new £100,000-a-week Liverpool deal.

"It's not about the money at all," the England forward said.

"It's not about the money at all," the England forward said.

"It's not about the money at all," the England forward said.

 

[Nath]

"I just want to take the time to think about what I've achieved in my career so far, where I need to go and what I need to do to get better as a player."

Having read that interview it has confirmed my feelings that he doesn't plan on being at Liverpool for much longer.