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Master D

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As a child of the 90s my only taste of a Crewe vs Wrexham game until 2 weeks ago was that League Cup tie in 2003. In fact, if Crewe were down South when I was that age, me and my old man used to go and occasionally watch Wrexham because we knew Hector Sam, Dennis Lawrence and Carlos Edwards personally through Clayton Ince. So, whilst older fans (sorry LOTP) will always have a hatred of Wrexham, I find it difficult to have one. I find your American fanbase cringey as (as do the Wrexham fans I know) but I'm not gonna look out for your result and laugh at 5pm if you've lost like I do with Stoke.

I do think rivalries are too set in stone in this day and age though. They seemed to evolve and change a lot more years ago. Now fans, particularly on social media and I'll admit I'm guilty of this too, seem to be more dismissive of forming derbies now as a patronising or borderline humiliating put down to the opposition. But then gates are bigger in the home and away ends for local games so that sums up the deep feelings perhaps?

We've always floated between leagues though in the modern era and that's why I feel we've been unable to form an intense reciprocated derby and I think that goes for other clubs like Stockport, Rotherham and Notts County to use three examples. Vale are the only local side we've played fairly regularly in the league in my lifetime and it took a huge flashpoint for that to get heated which has since subsided now Micky Adams and Dario are no longer around.

We've gone 29 years without playing Chester and 18 years without playing Stoke. We went 17 years then 12 years without playing Shrewsbury and have barely played them in the last 8 years. We went 27 years without playing Wrexham and 12 years without playing Stockport. Lastly with Tranmere we've always had mutual respect with dating back to the day we were promoted together in 1989 so even though we've played them quite often it's just a local day out.

I'm quite happy with going under the radar. Local derbies just bring more attention from Plod, more restrictions on movement and what pubs you can go in etc. An interesting point though, as Wrexham won't be in the same league as Chester for potentially the rest of our lifetimes now, I wonder where Wrexham will look next? I feel Wrexham have more chance of playing Cardiff and Swansea in the next 10 years so will games against those two be heated in the future to compensate for the loss of Chester?
Cardiff are a lot more hated in our fanbase than Swansea are really so they'd be the one. Doubt we will ever play Chester again in a league game in our lifetimes.
 

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Cardiff are a lot more hated in our fanbase than Swansea are really so they'd be the one. Doubt we will ever play Chester again in a league game in our lifetimes.
Newport fans told me the same re: Cardiff and Swansea. They didn't mind Swansea but couldn't stand Cardiff. I know their dynamic may be personal as they're South. But are Cardiff just bigger twats? Or does everyone just hate them because they're the billy big bollocks Capital etc.
 

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I'm wincing just thinking of the pressure on Luke Williams walking out of that Meadow Lane tunnel tomorrow. 1 win in 4, squad packed full of proven, experienced Championship stars that the clever Danish Computer system has come up with, barely had an injury to contend with all season, recent PTSD he has over fluffing his lines after being top of a league prior to this.

And there's the SKY cameras pointing at you.

Goodness me.
 

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Had my first proper look at Notts County entire squad earlier on, you do feel like those winter months may not be kind if they pick up a small amount of injuries. Need to spend in January to bolster depth.

I think they will be fine tomorrow though, I’m not feeling particularly confident if I’m being honest. Take another point.
 

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I'm wincing just thinking of the pressure on Luke Williams walking out of that Meadow Lane tunnel tomorrow. 1 win in 4, squad packed full of proven, experienced Championship stars that the clever Danish Computer system has come up with, barely had an injury to contend with all season, recent PTSD he has over fluffing his lines after being top of a league prior to this.

And there's the SKY cameras pointing at you.

Goodness me.
He'll have a read of the Guardiola biography tonight then tomorrow he'll have his best cardigan on and all will be well. My prediction is they'll "make" a good performance tomorrow with plenty of penalty box entries.
 

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Newport fans told me the same re: Cardiff and Swansea. They didn't mind Swansea but couldn't stand Cardiff. I know their dynamic may be personal as they're South. But are Cardiff just bigger twats? Or does everyone just hate them because they're the billy big bollocks Capital etc.

Thats it, Cardiff fans were always just massive wankers, whereas the Jack's were always OK. There may be a sense of superiority with Cardiff being the capital. If I remember rightly the issues were all coming from Cardiff themselves rather than the other clubs.
 

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I thought all Spoons had downstairs toilets. It's called the street!

Well that's where I see the girls peeing!

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I was going to watch Horsham - Dorking in the cup tomorrow but they've sold out.

Morecambe have international players. Bloody weird world we live in.

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Had my first proper look at Notts County entire squad earlier on, you do feel like those winter months may not be kind if they pick up a small amount of injuries. Need to spend in January to bolster depth.

I think they will be fine tomorrow though, I’m not feeling particularly confident if I’m being honest. Take another point.

You should be confident even though we are top of the table currently as I heard a rumour that Mansfield are unbeaten in all competitions this season. I heard it whispered from quite a few sources so sounds legit.

Nobody not even Stockport County (they must have had loads of injuries too) managed to inflict defeat on the Stags.

Oh and you always raise your game to either draw or beat the Stylish Magpies, so confidence should be very high for the circa 3800 making the trip to Meadow Lane.
 

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Newport fans told me the same re: Cardiff and Swansea. They didn't mind Swansea but couldn't stand Cardiff. I know their dynamic may be personal as they're South. But are Cardiff just bigger twats? Or does everyone just hate them because they're the billy big bollocks Capital etc.

Seem to remember a Newport v Swansea FA Cup tie in the 2000s kicking off badly. Think ref or lino was hit by an object too.

Cardiff used to have a horrible reputation until they left Ninian and became the semi-gentrified club they are now. Always caused mither at our place in the early to mid 2000s to the point police helicopter(s) were deployed for a midweek FA Cup Replay and they had a lot of run ins with the likes of Stoke and Wolves too. Always caused trouble in Crewe if they were playing away at Preston or Burnley too and waiting to change trains.

You get the feeling there's a lot of Cardiff fans in Newport though so maybe that could also be a factor. But then again they were very much hated 20 years ago by a range of clubs.
 

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You should be confident even though we are top of the table currently as I heard a rumour that Mansfield are unbeaten in all competitions this season. I heard it whispered from quite a few sources so sounds legit.

Nobody not even Stockport County (they must have had loads of injuries too) managed to inflict defeat on the Stags.

Oh and you always raise your game to either draw or beat the Stylish Magpies, so confidence should be very high for the circa 3800 making the trip to Meadow Lane.

Are you drunk?
 

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Had my first proper look at Notts County entire squad earlier on, you do feel like those winter months may not be kind if they pick up a small amount of injuries. Need to spend in January to bolster depth.

I think they will be fine tomorrow though, I’m not feeling particularly confident if I’m being honest. Take another point.
Not sure where our goals come from at the minute, need some terrible County defending to help us.
 

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Thats it, Cardiff fans were always just massive wankers, whereas the Jack's were always OK. There may be a sense of superiority with Cardiff being the capital. If I remember rightly the issues were all coming from Cardiff themselves rather than the other clubs.
Cardiff and Newport were always the biggest bellends on Wales away trips and they caused the issues in Italy in 2003.

Swansea fans have only in the last few years or so been able to put their flags up at games, but the hatred is still there from Cardiff fans. One absolute tosser from Cardiff gave Ashley Williams some racial abuse at Ireland away in 2018 and the only reason he wasn't given a well deserved beating was him being protected by his thug mates.

Quite regularly the 50 year old soul crew members remind us Wrexham fans that 'if we were with Swansea they'd slap us, but Wrexham are alright'. Fuck them.
 

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I'll add that there's more sound Cardiff fans than bellends but their bellend proportion is greater than most.
 

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Just hope we turn up. Too many Notts sides have rolled over and let Manny T tickle their bellies

This team has had enough big games over the last year to think they will but early kick offs and on the telly make things a bit strange. I think Notts Police are probably delighted
 

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Just hope we turn up. Too many Notts sides have rolled over and let Manny T tickle their bellies

This team has had enough big games over the last year to think they will but early kick offs and on the telly make things a bit strange. I think Notts Police are probably delighted

They were going to let us play at 3pm before Sky got involved aswell!
 

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Just hope we turn up. Too many Notts sides have rolled over and let Manny T tickle their bellies

This team has had enough big games over the last year to think they will but early kick offs and on the telly make things a bit strange. I think Notts Police are probably delighted

We’re clearly no mugs hence why we’ve not lost yet, and i’d still be very surprised if county finish above mansfield come the end of the season.

However, county have started well and it’s good to see them do so well - and county will always have an appreciation for beating our rivals in the playoff final last season.

It’s great to see both sides doing well and moving in the right direction.
 

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Biggest question for our fans isn't really who will be in the team, or whether we can put an end to our miserable home form, because frankly we haven't a clue...it is whether Dale will be flying his Palestinian flag above the ground and what the reaction will be from the football World, and others, if he does.
 

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No wonder county are top of league, they haven’t played anyone in top eight yet.
 

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He'll have a read of the Guardiola biography tonight then tomorrow he'll have his best cardigan on and all will be well. My prediction is they'll "make" a good performance tomorrow with plenty of penalty box entries.

He described their second half performance last week against us as either "not emotional enough" or "too emotional." Can't remember which way round. As well as the Pep book he'll be flicking through a thesaurus to find some fancy words for his post match presser.
 

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No wonder county are top of league, they haven’t played anyone in top eight yet.

Will be watching on from edinburgh, it’s county’s big game of the season, be interesting to see how they play under pressure.

Given the extensive injury list we’ve got and how we’ve played of late, it’s understandable that county are clear favourites here.
 

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Due to a huge recent jump in the size of the fanbase for the first time in my lifetime some Mansfield fans won't be able to go on their 'Big Day Out' to the Big City. That must very frustrating and upsetting, it rivals the annual trip to Skegvegas

"Will someone please think of the children?"
 

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He described their second half performance last week against us as either "not emotional enough" or "too emotional." Can't remember which way round. As well as the Pep book he'll be flicking through a thesaurus to find some fancy words for his post match presser.
He insists on doing minimum 40 minute sit-down interviews pre and post match. The club want to do 5 minute ones like most do but he won't have it.
 

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Hang on, there’s a Spoons with a downstairs toilet? :oops:

Crazy to think isn't it? If I hadn't seen this official diagram I wouldn't have believed it either.

cu-chi-tunnels-tour~2.jpg
 

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Tranmere at home. Unbeaten at home against them since 1999 and no matter how good or bad we are we always get a result against them at Gresty Road. I expect us to react to the disappointment at Salford and beat them. No doubt Harvey Davies will gift them a goal or two but it's a good job we're top scorers in this league because it masks our most concerning deficiency.

Hopefully Chris Long is back for this game. Gonna go for a 3-1 win.
Considering we always trade home wins against each other, I'll back your 3-1 Crewe
 

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