Saturday 17th February

[Limerick Mariner]

Arduous stuff with us at the moment. We can just never get a consistent team out on the pitch. The only time we have done is during the long winning run we went on.

Only way we're going up is if we start grinding wins out but very hard to do that with shite defending from makeshift back fours.

The writing was on the wall for your dip in form only putting 3 past us last week…

 

[Master D]

That’s all styles of football though isn’t it. That part of it is frustrating, but there’s also long spells where it’s great.

Same with your style - when you’ve got a team under pressure and penned in with the high tempo stuff it’s fantastic to watch, like the first 15 mins of the second half. The first 20 mins or so of the first half is the opposite, when you barely had a touch of the ball at home, were just launching it back to us and should really have been 2-0 down. Be boring if we all played the same.

We came out firing in the second half and should really have put the game to bed in those 15 mins, we usually overwhelm teams when attacking that end as you know. The power-plays usually result in a goal.

I thought you played better yesterday than the previous 3 games against us. I've never seen a team have that much possession in a match against us at Racecourse in all the years I've been going. Partly your style and partly our tactics though.

 

[Master D]

https://x.com/ford2ford66/status/1758898816026104175?s=46&t=mTyNxKgJ_S5cOlVMBUyGeA

Does look like a handball actually on that. The ball would not go in that direction if it's off his chest.

 

[Son of Cod]

I hope for your sake that you picked the second option.
My lads got a season ticket but he fucked Town off again today to go see his girlfriend (ironically in Doncaster) and what a great choice he made.

Haha yeah, I chose the second option, was always gonna be the case.

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

Maybe I'm looking with tinted glasses but that looks midriff to me and far from conclusive.

But the referee was 100% certain and I won't doubt their judgement and integrity no matter how bad the angle, one viewing and in real time.

 

[chief]

https://x.com/ford2ford66/status/1758898816026104175?s=46&t=mTyNxKgJ_S5cOlVMBUyGeA

Does look like a handball actually on that. The ball would not go in that direction if it's off his chest.

This is the one I saw. Handball for sure, ref called it right.

 

[EnglishRed]

https://x.com/ford2ford66/status/1758898816026104175?s=46&t=mTyNxKgJ_S5cOlVMBUyGeA

Does look like a handball actually on that. The ball would not go in that direction if it's off his chest.

HANDLING THE BALL

For the purposes of determining handball offences, the upper boundary of the arm is in line with the bottom of the armpit. Not every touch of a player’s hand/arm with the ball is an offence.

It is an offence if a player:

deliberately touches the ball with their hand/arm, for example moving the hand/arm towards the ball
touches the ball with their hand/arm when it has made their body unnaturally bigger. A player is considered to have made their body unnaturally bigger when the position of their hand/arm is not a consequence of, or justifiable by, the player’s body movement for that specific situation. By having their hand/arm in such a position, the player takes a risk of their hand/arm being hit by the ball and being penalised
scores in the opponents' goal:
directly from their hand/arm, even if accidental, including by the goalkeeper
immediately after the ball has touched their hand/arm, even if accidental

CUT AND DRIED

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

Well that's certainly good enough for me now I've read that*




* If i hit his arm.

 

[Stocky]

I don't think it does hit his arm but I can see why the ref has gone for it. His arm moves at the same time and it incriminates him. Don't think you could say the ref's made a massive fuck up tbh. Frustrating for Notts though.

 

[DearneValleyRover]

Just watched it, not handball for me, hit his chest with his arm in a normal position

 

[EnglishRed]

For me it clearly hits his bicep, which is a handball. I would say that though.

I don't think he helped himself by putting his arms out ridgidy as it makes it look like he was using his arms to enlarge his body whether he did or not.

These debates are what football.is all about though, and why I'm not a fan of VAR in most circumstances.

 

[AdamStag]

One of those where you can see it from both sides, depending on who you’re following. as mentioned above VAR might have given that.

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

It's clearly very debatable and splits opinion with the huge benefit of slow motion action replays and multiple angles. I can't say for certain either way.

The referee had neither but had absolutely no doubt. If he wasn't sure the goal should stand. You can't guess in this scenario.

Take that incident out of the game and one side was clearly superior one each half and only one side scored against the run of play.

Arguably we've been the better side against most if not all the top sides for one half in our games. But one half isn't enough we've not outperformed any of the top sides over 90 mins. When we've completed, which we have, lady luck has screwed us. That's to make up for last season.

 

[chief]

One of those where you can see it from both sides, depending on who you’re following. as mentioned above VAR might have given that.

In my unbiased opinion it's 1000% a handball and only a blind person would say otherwise.

 

[EnglishRed]

If nothing else it lets the section of Notts fans who went on and on about us bribing referees last season keep that narrative going. It's good to have these traditions in football.

 

[chief]

If nothing else it lets the section of Notts fans who went on and on about us bribing referees last season keep that narrative going. It's good to have these traditions in football.

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On a completely unrelated note, no team has received a red card against us this season.

 

[EnglishRed]

In retrospect (after we won the game) I always enjoyed the bitter irony of the game at our place last season where Notts County scoring directly from a free kick that came when Rodrigues tripped over his own foot. They never mention that. Or the eleven marginal offside calls (some blatantly wrong) that went against us in that game with our paid off officials.

 

[Bianconeri 1862]

Watched it a dozen times and still can't tell, the ref gets one go at it so we all have to respect their decision or all that's left is chaos and Nigel Clough

 

[1862]

As I said plenty of times last season, anyone who genuinely thinks you're paying the refs off needs to take a serious look at themselves, but if they're in that place already then a decision like the one at the weekend will only reinforce it. Given Wrexham fans have forgotten that two massive decisions went in their favour in the game last year, it's not that surprising that sections of our fans aren't being objective.

 

[Spanishstag]

It's clearly very debatable and splits opinion with the huge benefit of slow motion action replays and multiple angles. I can't say for certain either way.

The referee had neither but had absolutely no doubt. If he wasn't sure the goal should stand. You can't guess in this scenario.

Take that incident out of the game and one side was clearly superior one each half and only one side scored against the run of play.

Arguably we've been the better side against most if not all the top sides for one half in our games. But one half isn't enough we've not outperformed any of the top sides over 90 mins. When we've completed, which we have, lady luck has screwed us. That's to make up for last season.

Cough cough 1 4 in october unlucky

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

In retrospect (after we won the game) I always enjoyed the bitter irony of the game at our place last season where Notts County scoring directly from a free kick that came when Rodrigues tripped over his own foot. They never mention that. Or the eleven marginal offside calls (some blatantly wrong) that went against us in that game with our paid off officials.

Oh yeah that brilliant nail biting 5 goal thriller last season where home supporters were convinced that all eleven marginal offside decision were offside. No collective accumulating hysteria that day at the Racecourse obviously. I blame Adam Virgo.

Great also to see that some Wrexham fans hobby of collecting, collating and sharing NCFC information from our message boards, social media, or some lady's little known or read column in a local Nottinghamshire newspaper is as strong as ever. I suspect next season the focus will thankfully drop off for all concerned

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

Cough cough 1 4 in october unlucky

Probably need to read my post again amigo, or go grab yourself some agua.

Have another go chap

 

[Master D]

Hard to tell who is getting RATTLED here but someone must be.

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

Hard to tell who is getting RATTLED here but someone must be.

Now this is far less debatable than the disallowed goal and easy to answer it's some Notts County and Wrexham fans online. Although tbf it appears to effect lower numbers and a minor RATTLING, at best despite best attempts

 

[jacobncfc]

In retrospect (after we won the game) I always enjoyed the bitter irony of the game at our place last season where Notts County scoring directly from a free kick that came when Rodrigues tripped over his own foot. They never mention that. Or the eleven marginal offside calls (some blatantly wrong) that went against us in that game with our paid off officials.

That game is a great case study on how fans only remember the ones that go against them. The officials were completely useless but to the extent it basically evened itself out - the free-kick we scored from was nonsense, you kept being dubiously flagged offside, your first goal should've been disallowed and Foster was well off his line when he saved the penalty at the end. Obviously only half of these things are ever worth mentioning, depending on who you talk to!

 

[Pilot_Phonic]

That game is a great case study on how fans only remember the ones that go against them. The officials were completely useless but to the extent it basically evened itself out - the free-kick we scored from was nonsense, you kept being dubiously flagged offside, your first goal should've been disallowed and Foster was well off his line when he saved the penalty at the end. Obviously only half of these things are ever worth mentioning, depending on who you talk to!

Don't forget the handball from Scott before Foster 'came off his line' when he took the pen.

 

[jacobncfc]

Don't forget the handball from Scott before Foster 'came off his line' when he took the pen.

Come on now.

 

[EnglishRed]

That game is a great case study on how fans only remember the ones that go against them. The officials were completely useless but to the extent it basically evened itself out - the free-kick we scored from was nonsense, you kept being dubiously flagged offside, your first goal should've been disallowed and Foster was well off his line when he saved the penalty at the end. Obviously only half of these things are ever worth mentioning, depending on who you talk to!

Yeah, Mullin tripping the defender before his goal did look a bit sus, but defenders get too much protection for those things, should have stayed on his feet. I will maintain that Foster jumped forward on the whistle though...

The play off game versus Grimsby was even worse. The referees got every single decision wrong, (fouls on the run up to two of their goals, Mullin punching the ball over the line) but at least the dodgy decisions evened themselves out over the game.

Who's be a referee eh?

 

[Pilot_Phonic]

Come on now.

haha, just reeling some in.

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

That game is a great case study on how fans only remember the ones that go against them. The officials were completely useless but to the extent it basically evened itself out - the free-kick we scored from was nonsense, you kept being dubiously flagged offside, your first goal should've been disallowed and Foster was well off his line when he saved the penalty at the end. Obviously only half of these things are ever worth mentioning, depending on who you talk to!

Get these accurate, sensible and rationale posts out of here!

There should be far more talk regarding the Tranmere and Doncaster games following Saturday's results.