Saturday 3rd October

[dannyc5]

I'm not really buying that the EFL advised not to test the whole squad for 5 days, I know they have their faults, but that seems far fetched. Beckles obviously thought that was rubbish too, as he organised his own test.

What you are failing to realise is that when Wintle tested positive, he had already unkowingly passed the virus around the Crewe squad, probably 5 days before.

I know for a fact that is what the EFl advised. I assume the club will make that known in the coming days. This came from the same person (club employee) who told me about our Covid problems, which if you scroll back a couple of pages, you will see I mentioned way before it came out on social media. You don’t have to believe me, but you will see in the coming days.

In regards to isolating, this is also the government advise. You only have to self isolate if told by test and trace, if you test positive, if you have symptoms, if you live/are in a support bubble with someone who tested positive, or if you come back from a country not on the travel corridor. None of this covers the Crewe squad in regards to Wintle. It actually doesn’t even cover them in regards to Beckles. Although I guess test and trace MAY be in touch with them in the coming days ie the people he sat with on the bus.

Anyway, I look forward to Oxford declaring a clean bill of health, and I praise the club for putting in place stringent Covid protocols (even if their own fans doubt their protocols).

 

[dannyc5]

Which would be yet another way of illustrating that he's an imbecile, although he doesn't appear to need much help in that department.

Come to think of it, he's not your dad is he?

Yes he is. He had me aged 6. Must be what stumped me mentally.

 

[Marked Ox]

And to reiterate ONCE AGAIN, if Oxford followed the correct protocols, none of their employees are at risk.

And to reiterate again your players shouldn't have been in the ground at all. Deluded.

 

[dannyc5]

And to reiterate again your players shouldn't have been in the ground at all. Deluded.

Perhaps not. But no harm done, unless they were all dancing round the centre circle together, which I doubt.

Covid is really messing with people’s rational thinking.

 

[Bucket_]

Ok, tell me this. This is what I really don’t understand, and something that nobody can explain to me. Where is the risk to the Oxford employees? Unless they all mixed freely when Crewe turned up at their shitty ground? Covid protocols dictate the squads don’t mix pre match.

It's literally just the principle of it - I'm not educated on the intricacies of what happened, but from what I have read it does seem that there was some royal fuck ups made, not to mention a real lack of care and respect on display (not to mention Artell's mind boggling comments), so I just find your frenzied defense against all this so-called "faux outrage" bizarre and utterly misplaced. Hence the wow.

Covid is really messing with people’s rational thinking.

Clearly.

 

[Bucket_]

Anyway, Pompey were class yesterday. Jackett in.

 

[dannyc5]

Ok, so the ‘principle’ is now spreading Covid like wild fire.

Absolutely nonsensical comments.

 

[Marked Ox]

Perhaps not. But no harm done, unless they were all dancing round the centre circle together, which I doubt.

Covid is really messing with people’s rational thinking.

We don't know yet if any harm has been done medically. Both clubs and the hotel will likely have incurred extra costs as a result. Can't be cheap for Crewe to pay for a 2nd hotel stay in Oxford for instance.

 

[dannyc5]

BBC Radio Oxford Sport: Commentary - Reaction to Oxford United v Crewe Alexandra postponement - BBC Sounds

Reaction to the postponement of Oxford v Crewe, plus local and national sport updates.

www.bbc.co.uk

1hr26 mins is Artell’s interview. Not the brightest, but nowhere near as bad as has been made out. This certainly provides context to the quote that has been sent everywhere with no context. Again, I urge people to think rationally. Not that I hold much hope for that.

 

[dannyc5]

We don't know yet if any harm has been done medically. Both clubs and the hotel will likely have incurred extra costs as a result. Can't be cheap for Crewe to pay for a 2nd hotel stay in Oxford for instance.

If the Hotel and the club have followed the protocols, there will be no issues.

 

[Marked Ox]

If the Hotel and the club have followed the protocols, there will be no issues.

You keep beating that drum. Deluded.

 

[dannyc5]

You keep beating that drum. Deluded.

Ok. We will find out in a few days, won’t we.

 

[Don Tonberry]

Anyway, Pompey were class yesterday. Jackett in.

Let's not get carried away now...

 

[Robie]

The guidance and protocols are there to mitigate risk. They do not completely remove risk in the same way that wearing a thin layer of material over your face does not completely remove the risk of covid particles from passing between individuals hence different grades of PPE.

It is a balancing act of making it financially achievable to play football and relies on an element of common sense. It would not be possible to play the game without coming into close contact with each other.... knowing that your entire squad had been in close contact with someone who is carrying the virus you still felt it acceptable to come to the ground.

I know I'm not going to convince you that my outrage is genuine but I'm glad to read that it only appears to be Crewe fans that are happy with their teams behaviour.

 

[Gassy]

Can't we just kick Oxford & Crewe out of the division and be done with it?

 

[TimeyWimey]

Absolutely beltin’ thread.

It typifies football tribalism. Absolutely fucking seething about nonsense (well apart from Crewe Alex FC finally bringing dat global pandemic to previously sanitised & untouched Oxford).

Silly tinpot decisions from Crewe from start to finish. Hope no one else tests positive as a result (or at all). But my word, get over it.

 

[dannyc5]

Nah they’re all gonna die.

 

[dannyc5]

The guidance and protocols are there to mitigate risk. They do not completely remove risk in the same way that wearing a thin layer of material over your face does not completely remove the risk of covid particles from passing between individuals hence different grades of PPE.

It is a balancing act of making it financially achievable to play football and relies on an element of common sense. It would not be possible to play the game without coming into close contact with each other.... knowing that your entire squad had been in close contact with someone who is carrying the virus you still felt it acceptable to come to the ground.

I know I'm not going to convince you that my outrage is genuine but I'm glad to read that it only appears to be Crewe fans that are happy with their teams behaviour.

Yeh like I said, unless they were fucking each other in the centre circle, your lot will be fine.

 

[redjed]

And to top it all........... loads of peoples gardens in oxford have been turned into sewage farms

 

[Luke Imp]

Two shots on target in 180 minutes now, so not exactly firing on all cylinders for the derby next week.

How has Bolger been getting on? From the highlights I've seen, he's looked quite ropey.

 

[Imp in Branston]

I don’t think Bolger is as good a player as they thought they were signing tbh. He did do ok for us but does lack pace and often has a mistake or two in him per game. Certainly not the worst CB but there are better too. Play him alongside someone with pace and experience and he would fare a lot better IMO.

 

[Luke Imp]

Just so I understand this correctly, Crewe had a player showing symptoms in the middle of last week and self isolated (also presumably came back with a positive result?).

The Crewe squad were then tested on Thursday (which also coincided with a routine test) and Beckles was positive? Or was it Beckles private test that came back positive? And why, if there were routine tests, did Beckles then have a further test? And why didn't Beckles tell Crewe he had had a private test (out of courtesy more than anything, I know there was no real necessity for him to do so)?

Also seems weird to have routine tests on a Thursday ahead of an away trip that you'd be staying over at if the results don't come back until Saturday morning, by which point you'd have travelled on a bus and spent a night in a hotel. I could understand if the away game was just down the road and didn't need an overnight stop but not if they would need one.

 

[dannyc5]

Just so I understand this correctly, Crewe had a player showing symptoms in the middle of last week and self isolated (also presumably came back with a positive result?).

The Crewe squad were then tested on Thursday (which also coincided with a routine test) and Beckles was positive? Or was it Beckles private test that came back positive? And why, if there were routine tests, did Beckles then have a further test? And why didn't Beckles tell Crewe he had had a private test (out of courtesy more than anything, I know there was no real necessity for him to do so)?

Also seems weird to have routine tests on a Thursday ahead of an away trip that you'd be staying over at if the results don't come back until Saturday morning, by which point you'd have travelled on a bus and spent a night in a hotel. I could understand if the away game was just down the road and didn't need an overnight stop but not if they would need one.

No, I got the routine test part wrong. Beckles was the only one to get tested apart from Wintle. Was a private test at the request of his wife. He was asymptomatic. He didn’t inform Crewe of the test.

I have been told by an employee (but obviously take this with a pinch of salt) that the FL told Crewe to wait till Monday to get the squad tested due to the 5 day incubation period (wintles test came back on Wednesday). This was pretty much confirmed by Artell, who said the swab kits were due to arrive Sunday or Monday.

On Saturday morning, Beckles result came back positive. He was sent home. Nobody else in the squad showed symptoms.

 

[Luke Imp]

In that case, Beckles has dropped a clanger because if he's the only one to have had a test he needed to tell Crewe, especially as positive tests can come back regardless of showing symptoms or not and presumably Crewe only knew of Beckles test when he told them it'd come back positive on the morning of the game?

 

[dannyc5]

Yes, he text Artell on Saturday morning to tell him and then went home. According to Artell that was the first Crewe had heard about it.

 

[NorthwestOx]

Crewe fans don't seem to be understanding the seriousness of this situation.

We are only able to have matches being played as there are strict protocols in place to prevent, as far as reasonably possible, the continued spread of this virus.

One aspect of that is to confirm that they have not within the past 14 days, been in
contact with anyone with suspected or confirmed Covid-19, nor are they displaying any symptoms
of Covid-19.

EFL Official Website - COVID-19

www.efl.com

It would be intersting to see if Crewe notified the EFL (and Newcastle) of the first confirmed Covid case last week, there is nothing on their website to confirm that one of their players had Covid unti lafter the postponement.

Anyway, we can come back to this later in the year when the season is suspended due to multiple Covid outbreaks.

 

[TimeyWimey]

Crewe fans don't seem to be understanding the seriousness of this situation.

 

[dannyc5]

Would be a bit strange if we only communicated with the EFL and Newcastle via the club website.

 

[SF_]

Blackpool should have stuck with the Oystons, they're even shitter under this clueless banker and U12s manager.

At least they've built a ready made L2 side.

 

[codaplenty]

Blackpool should have stuck with the Oystons, they're even shitter under this clueless banker and U12s manager.

At least they've built a ready made L2 side.

Oh you are awful....but I like you