The Bury summer signing uberthread. WARNING - Contains tinpot material

[T.A]

Seems to have disappeared!

Good luck to Bury - remember them getting promoted at the Vic in 1997 after we missed a late penalty.

Maybe a sign of the times but remember playing a few teams back then who have really suffered since.

Should be correct now.

 

[Franchisor]

That is the most rambling statement from a chairman I've ever read, and that includes Port Vale's chairman/owner.

 

[Boletus Edulis]

The problem as I see it is that we are being asked to believe two diametrically opposed interpretations of the facts. Yet, which side to trust? And I have doubts in believing either.

I bow down to Keith and TAs knowledge of the veracity of what it is in that statement, but I have felt a bit uncomfortable at the recent behaviour of the EFL. I may well be wrong, but it feels like the EFL want to make an example, and Bury and its owner have put themselves forward.

 

[stevie_howard]

I believe BBC have contacted the EFL for a response to the fat twats statement.

 

[Kim Mitten]

The problem as I see it is that we are being asked to believe two diametrically opposed interpretations of the facts. Yet, which side to trust? And I have doubts in believing either.

I bow down to Keith and TAs knowledge of the veracity of what it is in that statement, but I have felt a bit uncomfortable at the recent behaviour of the EFL. I may well be wrong, but it feels like the EFL want to make an example, and Bury and its owner have put themselves forward.

Wednesday should shed some light into it, if the EFL haven't been shown proof of any funding the CVA Bury surely won't be able to show a court of law. If they can show the court then the EFL's stance will seem a bit strange. If they can't, then they'll be liquidated.

 

[KeithH]

Wednesday should shed some light into it, if the EFL haven't been shown proof of any funding the CVA Bury surely won't be able to show a court of law. If they can show the court then the EFL's stance will seem a bit strange. If they can't, then they'll be liquidated.

WUP dismissed
The court satisfied CVA will hold and is funded?
Over to the EFL?
Fuck knows what happens now

 

[Boletus Edulis]

WUP dismissed
The court satisfied CVA will hold and is funded?
Over to the EFL?
Fuck knows what happens now

So EFL either admit a mistake or double down and blame Bury?

 

[DearneValleyRover]

EFL admit to making a mistake about as likely as getting a fit and proper test that’s actually fit and proper

 

[KeithH]

So EFL either admit a mistake or double down and blame Bury?

I honestly do not have a clue
Suspect there is more to this than meets the eye, what it is don't know but somethings afoot here.

 

[Bar Carousel]

I'm proper confused as to what's going on here now.

On what grounds can the EFL refuse the fixture taking place now?

 

[Muzzle]

You should see Dales new response. He's worse the our Ken

https://www.buryfc.co.uk/news/2019/...hE5LtyUWa0rKTD0fO_vtf4bzAH285NR9xQqc3ZIGtbcq4

 

[T.A]

The EFL wanted to see evidence of 1.5 million in the bank before releasing any tv money to the club.. this is what Dale is complaining about and what seemed to be the hold up yesterday.. no other club has ever been asked this before but it seems that the EFL dont trust Dale to have the correct funds to keep us going for the season. Its all a bit Tom and Jerry at the moment.

 

[Boletus Edulis]

The EFL wanted to see evidence of 1.5 million in the bank before releasing any tv money to the club.. this is what Dale is complaining about and what seemed to be the hold up yesterday.. no other club has ever been asked this before but it seems that the EFL dont trust Dale to have the correct funds to keep us going for the season. Its all a bit Tom and Jerry at the moment.

But the courts disagree with the EFL. So as Keith suggests something smells very fishy here.

 

[stevie_howard]

But the courts disagree with the EFL. So as Keith suggests something smells very fishy here.

Forgive me if i'm wrong as the situation is as clear as mud. As I understand it, the EFL argument isn't whether we can fund the CVA but whether we have an additional 1.5million in the bank on top of that. Dale says he has, or at least has access to it, the EFL either disagree or are not convinced.

 

[T.A]

I dont know.. there seems to be money to pay the CVA but is there more money to pay for staff and players this season? I dont like what the EFL have done but how stupid will they look if in a couple of months we are back to not paying people again?

 

[Muzzle]

I dont know.. there seems to be money to pay the CVA but is there more money to pay for staff and players this season? I dont like what the EFL have done but how stupid will they look if in a couple of months we are back to not paying people again?

They have some form for this mate, so I wouldn't be too surprised

 

[Luke Imp]

Didn't hear the Bury Chairman chirping up when the EFL 'forgot' to ask him for the required information when he took over back in December.

It was ok for them to be lax back then, but now they're questioning things it's an issue and their fault.

 

[KeithH]

Didn't hear the Bury Chairman chirping up when the EFL 'forgot' to ask him for the required information when he took over back in December.

It was ok for them to be lax back then, but now they're questioning things it's an issue and their fault.

There are 2 partys to blame here and only 2.
Day and Dale, in it together with Dale handpicked to cover Days back.
This appears to all tied in with the Lendy loans co scandal.
Day goes bust owing 60mill and the same dodgy loan co (Capital Bridge) lend him money to start again the week after?
SFO need to run a proper investigation into this and if it ends up killing what's left of a once proud club so be it.
Up the 1885

 

[T.A]

Dale's told the media that he's sent the EFL what they want apparently... we will wait and see what the response is later today.

 

[stevie_howard]

Deadline was 12 noon. It's now half 7 and the EFL haven't even bothered to issue a statement. Ignoring the issues in the background, this downright disregard for the fans, not just us but Accy as well, highlights the EFL as not being fit for purpose.

 

[Franchisor]

EFL have issued a statement - Bury's game with Accrington next weekend suspended too. Not sure how much longer this goes on....they have a Carabao Cup game against Sheffield Wednesday a few days after that.

 

[Super_horns]

Will Stanley be compensated for loss of revenue ?

 

[WhiteRussian]

Will Stanley be compensated for loss of revenue ?

I presume at the moment as it is postponed, Accy will not be compensated as it will be played at a later date.

If the next match is postponed are Bury out as some on here have said, and is that the next match, Sheffield Wednesday in the cup, or the next league one match?

 

[T.A]

Just throw us out. This competition is a joke anyway.

Its starting to effect other clubs now. Accy will either get no money now or probably half of what they expected.

 

[Pablosammy]

Another suspension and another statement from Dale. I don't trust Dale's word, but he sounds convinced he's given the EFL what they wanted so a statement from the EFL to clarify things wouldn't go amiss.

 

[Boletus Edulis]

TA, Keith, Stevie what do you make of Dale’s latest statement - do those facts in bold stake up? Is this all the EFL wanted, or is he not mentioning something?

 

[PuB]

He’s an asset stripper, he clearly doesn’t have the funds (no matter who else he blames).

 

[WhiteRussian]

As someone said earlier, the EFL are going to make themselves look like (even bigger) idiots if after all this, they give the OK and then Bury run out of cash mid season.

It's utterly ludicrous that a club who have just won promotion are in this position and you can only blame the owners. I just don't understand why.

If he is just asset stripping, then why did Dale go and spend what I presume is a wad of money getting promotion. Why not quietly financially starve the club out of existence if you are just after the ground or whatever.

It just doesn't make sense to me.

 

[stevie_howard]

The bloke is mentally unhinged. If there is a buyer out there they need to go public, and now, so that if there is a chance of a sale it forces Dales hand.

The EFL's handling of this has been piss poor as well. Serious questions have to be asked of them.

 

[Loyal Dale]

The whole thing stinks

As someone said earlier, the EFL are going to make themselves look like (even bigger) idiots if after all this, they give the OK and then Bury run out of cash mid season.

It's utterly ludicrous that a club who have just won promotion are in this position and you can only blame the owners. I just don't understand why.

If he is just asset stripping, then why did Dale go and spend what I presume is a wad of money getting promotion. Why not quietly financially starve the club out of existence if you are just after the ground or whatever.

It just doesn't make sense to me.

The overspending at Bury has gone on for years.

It's the local businesses who will now be shafted (again) and the club staff who haven't been paid for months who are the victims...not the football club and it's fans who sneered at the minority who saw through the financial mess ages ago.

Dale is a (not very pleasant) asset stripper, with a history of doing exactly what he's doing to Bury.... making money from failing businesses. It's what he does. Just because he has picked on a football club this time; it doesn't make any difference... he is following a tried and trusted business model.
He only bought the club towards the end of last season, with all the playing commitments already in place, so there was little he could do regarding previous money spent.


The real villains here are Stuart Day, who is guilty of grossly overtrading, and also Forever Bury, who shafted their members by changing their minds at the last minute and voting against their members wishes by allowing Day into the club. Plus the majority of fans who happy clapped at the big money signings when they should have been asking difficult questions.


The EFL are actually trying to protect the vast majority of it's members who play by the rules and, although by no means perfect, are actually standing up to the financial meltdown and are refusing to be bullied by Dale's inarticulate rants, which themselves seem to indicate that he's not fit to be in charge of a football club.

If, by some miracle, Bury are allowed to continue in League 1 (which I very much doubt will happen) then how long before they break yet more rules.


Their supporters need to say enough is enough, and start again with a new club. It's the only way get rid of the horrible legacy of the past 20odd years . This has been going on at Bury since Hugh Eaves used clients money to fund their way into the Championship in the 90's.