The General England Euro 2016 Thread

[smat]

Haha yes, Jack.

Shame Drinkwater's 'amazing understanding with Vardy' (eg kicking the ball as hard as he can from his own half) won't be on show at Euro 2016.

 

[JimJams]

You don't like effective football then? Probably best to hold onto it, pass it sideways and let the opposition sort themselves out first.

 

[Renegade]

Drinkwater should be in that squad, Rashford will probably play as much as Walcott did in 2006. Drinkwater does a lot more than hoof it up to Vardy, his passing range during the second half of the season was Scholes-esque. He should be in over Barkley and Henderson on merit anyway, I'd still start Wilshere every time though.

 

[Jockney]

Sturridge or Rashford not both. Waste of a place.

 

[Krazy8]

Sturridge or Rashford not both. Waste of a place.

Roy will surely play Rooney in midfield, so 4 strikers for 2 places makes sense.

 

[Murphy]

Disappointed Drinkwater isn't in. Would have taken him at the expense of Barkley, or to a less extent Wilshere given his form/lack of games.

 

[Marky748]

Me too, i was hoping he'd be...

 

[Super_horns]

Covering for an injury to Sturridge isn't he..

Shame for Drinkwater but Roy likes Wilshere even if potentially unfit.

 

[Leewilson]

I'd have had Drinkwater over Barkley (he's out of form and not needed with Rooney, Alli and Wilshere's ability to play behind the front two).

That aside though a good looking squad. Roy is pretty much touting the diamond there with 1 winger or he's going to play a 4-3-3 with Sterling and a striker wide. Hopefully he doesn't do the latter.

 

[Deepcut Cobbler]

It's not my choice but I would have had Drinkwater and Townsend over Henderson and Barkley. One to cover Dier and the other to be the impact from the bench...

 

[Ablur]

Looking at that squad there's a lot of ways he could line up with a lot of options, more so in the attacking positions, however, on form I don't know why Drinkwater isn't here yet Henderson and Wilshere are.. I suppose the only argument for it is that the latter two helped us get into the tournament and Drinkwater didn't.

I'm not sure why Sturridge is getting questioned. He's proved his fitness over the last 3-4 months other than a tiny niggle a few days ago where he missed training but when fit he is easily our most skilful striker and our best finisher.

Rooney will no doubt be used as a midfielder, and if so, it's totally unnecessary to take Alli, Barkley and Rooney. I'd of probably left Barkley out.

Looking at the squad, I'd probably go with:
-------------------------- Hart
Clyne --- Smalling --- Cahill ----- Rose
-------------------------- Dier
Milner --------- Alli/Rooney ------ Sterling
----- Sturridge/Vardy -- Kane

If need be, Milner could go alongside Dier to fill the gap with Rooney going out on the left and Sterling on the right.

Not that he will, he'll probably go with 1 striker with Rooney just behind, then make way for 2 central midfielders by dropping Dier and putting in Henderson and Wilshere.

The main positive is that our strikers are the best they've been for a very long time. Exciting if they can get the service.

 

[Big Bird]

Think the squad points towards a diamond midfield which I'm pleased about.

---------------Dier---------------
---------Alli--------Wilshere--
-------------Rooney------------
---------Kane-----Vardy------

This is how I'd lineup personally.

 

[Nath]

Hodgson has no swingers.

Dropping Drinkwater was the easy solution.

 

[mistermagic]

That's a lot of #9s! Kane, Vardy and Rashford. Complete waste of Hodgson wants to play Rooney #9. Hopefully he sees sense and lets him drop deep which he's actually good at. I'm afraid Rashford is a make the numbers kind of choice and a look at me I have balls, I'm giving youth its chance kind of move by Hodgson. In the end, I reckon it'll end a bit like Theo Walcott ca 2006 meaning that Rashford will have very little playing time (if any).

 

[leedsvaliant]

Think the squad points towards a diamond midfield which I'm pleased about.

---------------Dier---------------
---------Alli--------Wilshere--
-------------Rooney------------
---------Kane-----Vardy------

This is how I'd lineup personally.

That's exactly how I'd go and I hope that's in woys thinking. Dier to win the ball and Wilshere to play close alongside him to do the carrying. Alli to play a roaming midfield role and Rooney to link up midfield with the attack. I think Rooney would be perfect providing clever little passes to kane and vardy.

My fear is that woy lets his conservative side take over and he plays Kane up top on his own with Rooney in behind and then a henderson alongside Dier with a milner as the other midfielder and probably sterling. That in my opinion would be really short on attacking flair and we'll turn in another major tournament turgid showing, losing by the odd goal.
We need to try and put teams to bed because we can't defend one goal leads.
I worry about woy and whether he has the balls

 

[Max]

That's exactly how I'd go and I hope that's in woys thinking. Dier to win the ball and Wilshere to play close alongside him to do the carrying. Alli to play a roaming midfield role and Rooney to link up midfield with the attack. I think Rooney would be perfect providing clever little passes to kane and vardy.

My fear is that woy lets his conservative side take over and he plays Kane up top on his own with Rooney in behind and then a henderson alongside Dier with a milner as the other midfielder and probably sterling. That in my opinion would be really short on attacking flair and we'll turn in another major tournament turgid showing, losing by the odd goal.
We need to try and put teams to bed because we can't defend one goal leads.
I worry about woy and whether he has the balls

Woy? Oh, because his name is Roy and he has a mild speech impediment. Hysterical.

 

[leedsvaliant]

Woy? Oh, because his name is Roy and he has a mild speech impediment. Hysterical.

I thought that's what everyone called him?

 

[Max]

I thought that's what everyone called him?

I hear it a lot, but I don't know if it's what 'everyone' calls him.

It's a pet peeve of mine. It never sounds like an 'affectionate' nickname to me, it sounds like taking the piss out of someone with a speech impediment, using the same tired joke people have been parroting for about five years. The tabloids mainly started it upon his appointment as England manager, and it smacked of sour grapes, because The Sun et al would have much preferred Harry Redknapp and couldn't think of anything clever to say.

 

[leedsvaliant]

I hear it a lot, but I don't know if it's what 'everyone' calls him.

It's a pet peeve of mine. It never sounds like an 'affectionate' nickname to me, it sounds like taking the piss out of someone with a speech impediment, using the same tired joke people have been parroting for about five years. The tabloids mainly started it upon his appointment as England manager, and it smacked of sour grapes, because The Sun et al would have much preferred Harry Redknapp and couldn't think of anything clever to say.

Blimey, I bet you're fun at a party!

 

[Carver]

VERY DISAPOINTING FROM HODGSON

Why the fucking fuck do all these stubborn old c*** England managers do this picking names and negative players ahead of form?

Townsend is a great player for England, what the fuck more does he have to do to get picked ahead of injured and overrated players?

Remember last word cup. Great results going in then WHAM in comes the likes of Henderson, Milner and all the other negative players and we couldn't score any goals hardly. How Henderson goes before Drinkwater smacks of bias. Sterling had a joke of a season and loses the ball more than your average Alsatian. As for Sturridge if he lasts more than 5 fucking mins without an injury it will be a shock. Someone should really remind Hodgson he is supposed to be a professional and his love for all things Liverpool at the expense of the England team makes him look exactly what he is. a clown of manager.

THEY SHOULD SACK HIM AND QUICKLY APPOINT SOMEONE ELSE BEFORE THE SQUAD DEADLINE!!

It's going to be the same old fucking thing and this is the beginning of it.

 

[Hurrikeen]

I hear it a lot, but I don't know if it's what 'everyone' calls him.

It's a pet peeve of mine. It never sounds like an 'affectionate' nickname to me, it sounds like taking the piss out of someone with a speech impediment, using the same tired joke people have been parroting for about five years. The tabloids mainly started it upon his appointment as England manager, and it smacked of sour grapes, because The Sun et al would have much preferred Harry Redknapp and couldn't think of anything clever to say.

Chill out, Wax.

 

[appletees]

Shocking decision not to have this seasons best English midfielder in Drinkwater not in the squad

 

[DarkSithLord]

Shocking decision not to have this seasons best English midfielder in Drinkwater not in the squad

Welcome to the forum.

 

[appletees]

Welcome to the forum.

thank you

 

[ProfessorGreen]

Very harsh on Drinkwater. What more did he have to do to get picked? Can't believe Wilshere is there.

The Rashford inclusion stinks of that early Walcott inclusion at his first world cup when he was the next big thing, now he's useless because his ego got too big. Hopefully it doesn't end the same way.

 

[Carver]

Is Roy Hodgson actually Sven Goran Erikson in disguise or something?

 

[Hurrikeen]

*puts tin hat on*

I'm happy with the team.

 

[smat]

Hodgson has no swingers.

Dropping Drinkwater was the easy solution.

Lmao what? He's taking an 18-year-old with one cap. He can't do anything without people calling him dull/unadventurous etc.

Dropping Drinkwater was the easy solution because he doesn't bring anything to the table that England don't already have.

 

[Mustard]

The bottom line is Drinkwater doesn't suit the way England play. I'd still have taken him ahead of Barkley because he's in shit form (or Townsend), but it has been mildly amusing seeing the fallout from bringing the midfielder best suited to how Hodgson wants to play, and our best midfielder full stop (Wilshere) instead. Drinkwater hasn't really done anything in his few appearances for England to suggest he should be in the squad ahead of a player who is used to, and thrives, in the system Roy likes to use. Drinkwater is a decent player but you'd think he's the second incarnation of Scholes based on what some people are saying. At Leicester he plays a role very suited to his style of play and has a legitimately world class (last season at least) player next to him in Kante which is kind of like playing alongside 3 defensive midfielders. I think he'd be pretty exposed in a team where we're looking to play tight passes, and inevitably Roy would see him more as a defensive midfielder anyway, which he isn't.

 

[MJA]

I'm happy with the squad he's picked except for the decision to go with both Sturridge and Rashford. For me this says that Roy has no confidence in Sturridge getting through the tournament with picking up an injury so what is the point in taking him at all.

Sturridge out and Drinkwater in would have created the perfect squad for me as Drinkwater offers that defensive midfield cover that we no lack a little bit