The National League resolution vote

[jacobncfc]

King’s Lynn’s owner is on co-comms on our game tonight for some reason, pretty sure he just said that his understanding is that the votes are in for step one to continue and step two to end, but they’re deciding what to do about the clubs at this level that want to stop...

 

[springerbfc]

King’s Lynn’s owner is on co-comms on our game tonight for some reason, pretty sure he just said that his understanding is that the votes are in for step one to continue and step two to end, but they’re deciding what to do about the clubs at this level that want to stop...

That would be a shame. A real shame.

 

[Optipez]

King’s Lynn’s owner is on co-comms on our game tonight for some reason, pretty sure he just said that his understanding is that the votes are in for step one to continue and step two to end, but they’re deciding what to do about the clubs at this level that want to stop...

He was very sensible I thought. He said the National League should carry on for those that wanted and that the three or four who couldn't finance the season by taking loans should be allowed to stop. He also wasn't happy with some clubs for not voting by now and holding things up unecessarily.

 

[jacobncfc]

He was very sensible I thought. He said the National League should carry on for those that wanted and that the three or four who couldn't finance the season by taking loans should be allowed to stop. He also wasn't happy with some clubs for not voting by now and holding things up unecessarily.

I thought he was a surprisingly decent co-commentator, even pretty impartial. Took me about half an hour to clock who it was.

 

[Optipez]

I thought he was a surprisingly decent co-commentator, even pretty impartial. Took me about half an hour to clock who it was.

He was pretty sanguine about the whole thing. The only thing left unclear was his thoughts on relegation and promotion between step 1 and 2.

 

[Luke Imp]

He was very sensible I thought. He said the National League should carry on for those that wanted and that the three or four who couldn't finance the season by taking loans should be allowed to stop. He also wasn't happy with some clubs for not voting by now and holding things up unecessarily.

But what would happen to those four Clubs? Relegated? What about those who've already picked points up against them, or still to play them? The costs others have incurred travelling to those games, which are then meaningless?

I'm not expecting answers on them, btw, just throwing it out there.

 

[chipmunx]

But what would happen to those four Clubs? Relegated? What about those who've already picked points up against them, or still to play them? The costs others have incurred travelling to those games, which are then meaningless?

I'm not expecting answers on them, btw, just throwing it out there.

all integrity has gone if they allow some teams to stop and others to play on

 

[Wooderson]

But what would happen to those four Clubs? Relegated? What about those who've already picked points up against them, or still to play them? The costs others have incurred travelling to those games, which are then meaningless?

I'm not expecting answers on them, btw, just throwing it out there.

It’s a real mess. There’s nowhere to relegate them to/no-one to replace them if Step 2 ends. And if the NL just lets them stay without playing matches, why should any other club without a realistic chance of promotion continue to play on, incurring costs? We’d end up sides dropping out along the way, with ultimately a 10-team or so mini league (likely the brotherhood plus Sutton). Then I suspect you’d get the sides at the bottom of L2 crying foul at the prospect of being replaced by two clubs from that.

 

[Luke Imp]

Exactly, you can't have a hybrid league where some don't play on and some do. It's either all or nothing.

There were a handful of Club's in L1 last season, when it was getting a bit nasty, wanting the EFL to allow some to play on if they wanted but that was taken off the table very early.

 

[jacobncfc]

Yup, if the vote is in favour of playing on, then there’s got to be some kind of penalty for anyone who chooses not to, as harsh as that seems.

I still get the sense that Dover are the only ones who would take that path if push comes to shove.

 

[Stoney Ground]

I think the results will be announced today or tomorrow, can’t see any reason not to other than waiting for the government decisions on Monday. But I don’t think that affects the vote as most seem to have made their decision.

if crowds are back by beginning of April clubs could play on with hope of income.

 

[Railway Blue]

He was very sensible I thought. He said the National League should carry on for those that wanted and that the three or four who couldn't finance the season by taking loans should be allowed to stop. He also wasn't happy with some clubs for not voting by now and holding things up unecessarily.

Yes the clubs that have held up the conclusion of the vote are a disgrace and need to be chastised.

 

[pontoonlew]

The one bright spot of being relegated is that you’re all absolutely fucked financially next season.

Better hope and pray you’re one of the chosen two!

 

[Chief Rocka]

all integrity has gone if they allow some teams to stop and others to play on

It must be squeaky bum time if Barrow are suddenly interested in the integrity of the league!

 

[jacobncfc]

The one bright spot of being relegated is that you’re all absolutely fucked financially next season.

Better hope and pray you’re one of the chosen two!

How do you think Boreham Wood were paying for one of the best squads in the league on their crowds of 400? Or Solihull, Eastleigh, Bromley and the like?

 

[Wooderson]

Yup, if the vote is in favour of playing on, then there’s got to be some kind of penalty for anyone who chooses not to, as harsh as that seems.

I still get the sense that Dover are the only ones who would take that path if push comes to shove.

Yes, otherwise there isn’t much point in having a vote at all.

 

[TonyM]

He was very sensible I thought. He said the National League should carry on for those that wanted and that the three or four who couldn't finance the season by taking loans should be allowed to stop. He also wasn't happy with some clubs for not voting by now and holding things up unecessarily.

I thought he was a surprisingly decent co-commentator, even pretty impartial. Took me about half an hour to clock who it was.

SC has his moments, unfortunately he also has the knack of upsetting people for absolutely no reason (could start an argument in an empty room) and so even with our recent sucess hasn't taken as much of the fanbase with him as you might expect. His commentary has been one of the high points this season as he is generally happy to share his experience and is always looking for things other clubs are doing that might help us. If you are into podcasts he also has some interesting guests on his 'I bought a football club' pod.

 

[Wooderson]

Yup, if the vote is in favour of playing on, then there’s got to be some kind of penalty for anyone who chooses not to, as harsh as that seems.

I still get the sense that Dover are the only ones who would take that path if push comes to shove.

I dunno, Cleeve last night seemed to be suggesting they might go the same way IMO (‘we’ve run out of money’ etc).

 

[EnglishRed]

We've made a statement:


The Club has been approached by numerous individuals from the National League and the FA, with regard to our stated position of abstaining in the vote to determine whether the three Vanarama National League divisions should continue.

The decision to abstain was made by the Board of the Wrexham Supporters Trust, but with the full support of the new owners.

The reason behind the decision to abstain was simple, in that, the Club was excluded from any offer of financial support from the Sports Winter Survival Package for National League Clubs, and the Club was being asked to consider the same proposals as the other 65 Clubs, but on a different basis.

The Club position was, and remains, that it does not want to impose our view on others, on a matter where all Clubs are not being treated equally.

The obvious disparity of the Club's treatment has been recognised by the National League and the Welsh Government. The Government have since been in touch with the Club to gain a greater understanding of the issue and to see if they can provide some equivalent financial support.

On this basis alone, the decision to make our ‘abstention’ stance public, has raised the profile of the Club’s treatment, in a way that will hopefully prevent the unfairness of the situation arising again.

The Club has identified that we can, in fact, vote in favour of Resolution 1, which allows each of the three National League Divisions to decide their own future, and remain consistent with our original position by allowing the other 65 clubs to consider the matter on an equivalent basis.

The Club has now voted in favour of Resolution 1 but will maintain its position of abstaining on the other Resolutions.

It is our hope that the National League (Step 1) season continues and our new owners have committed to meeting the costs of the Club without any guarantee of external support, notwithstanding our view that all Clubs should be treated equally.

We await the outcome of our fellow Clubs’ deliberations with interest

 

[chief]

Suspect if funding was in the form of loans we would reject them anyway.

 

[Chief Rocka]

Wrexham statement

 

[Bee sting]

Surely you either abstain from all options or vote on all. I suppose now you have money behind you, self interest comes into it.

 

[Hollywood Red]

Surely you either abstain from all options or vote on all. I suppose now you have money behind you, self interest comes into it.

Each club has voted with self interest in mind surely?

 

[valefan16]

Wonder if the EFL would be so keen if the leagues integrity is in question to send two down and might offer a solution to a potential problem which our CEO raised.

Grimsby and say Barrow or Southend go down they could kick a stink because of the salary cap issue, a rule that was found to be wrong to impose which they could argue stopped them buying player X who could of got them out the mess... say Southend needing a striker...

Not saying they will but obviously does open a can of worms possibly with this salary cap wrongly being implemented.

 

[Raymondo316]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1362072956768313348

Get ready for the meltdown from Dorking's owner/manager

 

[#Beebot]

Another pointless legal challenge. When will the bankrolled clubs learn?

 

[Raymondo316]

Another pointless legal challenge. When will the bankrolled clubs learn?

He hasn't learnt from South Shields disastrous attempt last summer which resulted in a legal bill of 200 thousand.

 

[Optipez]

Another pointless legal challenge. When will the bankrolled clubs learn?

If he can prove that the other clubs have taken away their ability to earn and forced redundancies on them they may have a case in law. Could get very nasty with Dorking seeking and possibly winning reparations from other clubs.
Kings Lynn owner clearly understood the difference between a club not fulfilling its fixtures through circumstance and demanding that every other team stop playing too. Even if a majority in step 2 vote to end the season, Dorking have a fair argument that having started the season they have a right to trade and play to its conclusion and how can it be legal for other clubs to impede them.
it seems ridiculous but if they're left standing in a league of one, NL complete their season then Dorking would reasonably expect to be promoted.

 

[EnglishRed]

Dorking should expect legal action from Kellog's after stealing their cornflakes logo

 

[jacobncfc]

No idea where he’s thinking the legal challenge could be, but I imagine it would come down to that first resolution to change the usual voting structure which kind of encourages clubs to vote in counter intuitive ways (ie Dover and King’s Lynn voting for it). Not a clue on what the legality of it is, but you could potentially argue that there’s a vested interest in step one clubs voting it through so they can’t be relegated?